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	<title>Bronx Banter &#187; Roy Halladay</title>
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		<title>Recognize</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/11/17/recognize-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our man Cliff takes a look at Roy Halladay&#8217;s Hall of Fame chances over at...]]></description>
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<p>Our man <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/cliff_corcoran/11/16/nl.cy.young.halladay/index.html" target="_blank">Cliff takes a look at Roy Halladay&#8217;s Hall of Fame chances over at SI.com</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In each of the five seasons since then, Halladay has won at least 16 games and finished in the top five in the Cy Young voting in his league. He has led his league in complete games in each of the last four seasons and in six of the last eight, led the majors in complete games in three of the last four seasons, led his league in shutouts and strikeout-to-walk ratio in each of the last three seasons, and the majors in both categories in two of the last three years.</p>
<p>Over the last three seasons combined, he has clearly been the best pitcher in the majors, leading all hurlers with 500 or more innings over that span in ERA (2.67), ERA+ (157), wins (58), innings (735 2/3), complete games (27, 10 more than his closest competitor), shutouts (10, four more than the next man on the list), K/BB ratio (6.09), WHIP (1.07), fewest walks per nine innings (1.27), and average game score (61, tied with Tim Lincecum), and Baseball Prospectus&#8217;s win-expectancy based Support Neutral Lineup-adjusted Value Above Replacement (SNLVAR), which rates him as worth 24.6 wins more than a replacement starter over the last three years.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Bow Down to a Player That&#8217;s Greater than You</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/11/16/bow-down-to-a-player-thats-greater-than-you-5/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 00:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Roy Halladay gets traded to the Phillies last winter and goes out and wins...]]></description>
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<p>So Roy Halladay gets traded to the Phillies last winter and goes out and wins the <a href="http://bbwaa.com/" target="_blank">Cy Young award</a>. Got a no-hitter and a perfect game too and led the majors with nine complete games. Jesus, what a load.</p>
<p>Good for him.</p>
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		<title>Steam Heat</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/06/steam-heat/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roy Halladay has thrown a no-hitter in Game 1 of the NLDS against the Reds....]]></description>
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<p>Roy Halladay has thrown a no-hitter in Game 1 of the NLDS against the Reds. The bum walked a batter in fifth inning.</p>
<p>Oh, Doctor!</p>
<p>[Picture by Bags] </p>
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		<title>Yankee Panky: Halladay or Holliday Shopping?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Weiss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[SI.com&#8217;s Jon Heyman has been on just about every local broadcast media outlet and the...]]></description>
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<p>SI.com&#8217;s Jon Heyman has been on just about every local broadcast media outlet and the MLB Network the past two weeks discussing this offseason&#8217;s Free Agent class and potential trade market, all the while saying, &#8220;Don&#8217;t discount the Yankees in any talks about Roy Halladay, Matt Holliday, or anyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>This, of course, is stating the obvious. Remember the story in The Onion in February of 2003, shortly before Spring Training started, with the headline &#8220;<a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27656">Yankees Ensure 2003 Pennant by Signing Every Player in Baseball</a>&#8220;? With new developments in the Halladay sweepstakes, and the Yankees&#8217; additional need for a left fielder — contingent upon what Brian Cashman decides to do about Hideki Matsui and Johnny Damon — the Haters could be on the march with a similar headline for 2010. As we&#8217;ve seen, however, the Yankees don&#8217;t care much about public or media perception when payroll is the topic.</p>
<p>Much of why that Onion-type headline could return is a result of last winter, when the Yankees signed three of the top free agents in baseball to $423.5 million worth of contracts. All of them — CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett and Mark Teixeira — contributed to the World Series title, only feeding the thought that the Yankees bought their championship and leveled the small-market teams&#8217; chances of success. That thought would be, and is, incorrect. Cashman didn&#8217;t buy a title, he bought the necessary pieces — buying on need as opposed to greed — to put his team in the best position to win. Cashman has said through the years that&#8217;s all a general manager can do, and he&#8217;s right. Once the ink dries, it&#8217;s the players&#8217; jobs to perform and live up to those contracts.</p>
<p>What to do now? Cliff Corcoran has done his usual yeoman&#8217;s work analyzing the team&#8217;s needs. It just so happens that the two biggest names being rumored to move would fill two of those voids. Let&#8217;s take a look at both Halladay and Matt Holliday, since there&#8217;s nothing else better to do leading up to the Winter Meetings in Indiana City, Indiana.</p>
<p><strong>ROY HALLADAY</strong></p>
<p>Per a <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/11/29/2009-11-29_halladay_shopping_in_swing.html">Daily News report</a>, Halladay told the Blue Jays Saturday that he would waive his no-trade clause to come to the Yankees, if the pieces of a deal came to fruition. (Read: &#8220;I would waive the no-trade clause to go to the Yankees because I know they&#8217;re on the short list of teams that don&#8217;t need to win the lottery to pay me, and I won&#8217;t have to deal with the exchange rate.&#8221;) This is super-interesting because a week ago, it looked like the Red Sox were all-in and Yankee fans, some of us still in a championship daze, cried a collective variant of &#8220;Uh oh.&#8221; ESPN made it worse, posting a projected 2K10 Red Sox rotation of Halladay, Beckett, Lester, Dice-K and Buchholz (not taking into account that Buchholz may be the linchpin in getting or not getting the &#8217;03 Cy Young Award winner).</p>
<p>What it means: Nothing yet. This is still very much in the conjecture phase. As the article states — and we know — the Blue Jays want high-end prospects and young players who are either major-league ready or have some experience. The article also notes how the Yankees did not want to travel down this path two years ago when Johan Santana was the soon-to-be-traded pitcher.</p>
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<p>This year is different, as are the pitchers in question and the prospects rumored to be mentioned. The Yankees know Halladay better than they knew Santana. They know his success level against the AL East, particularly against them. Acquiring Halladay would be akin to Roger Clemens, only without the baggage. Secondly, the prospects and young players the Yankees did not want to part with then — Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Joba Chamberlain, and Robinson Canó, to name a few — might be on the list of players Cashman considers dealing now.</p>
<p>Decisions need to be made on all three pitchers, and Canó, as great as he was in the regular season, disappeared in the postseason like Alfonso Soriano did in 2003. But Canó is not the subject of a possible position change and hasn&#8217;t complained at all, so if he is traded, it&#8217;s purely a business decision and not because he&#8217;s partly a malcontent. For what it&#8217;s worth, the News calls Jesus Montero and Austin Jackson two of the players the Jays &#8220;would require&#8221; from the Yankees in exchange for Halladay.</p>
<p>And of course, there&#8217;s the matter of budget. Anyone in the Halladay mix is going to have to be able to afford signing him to a three-to-five year extension in the $20 million-per-year range. This is not a light consideration. Remember, the Yankees thought they were hedging a solid bet on Javier Vazquez, signing him to a four-year, $40M extension before the 2004 season only to include him in the Randy Johnson trade the following December.</p>
<p>The caveat to any potential Halladay trade is Vernon Wells, who assuming he doesn&#8217;t opt out of his contract, is owed $21 million next season. Nothing like doubling your salary a after a .260/.311/.400 effort. Wells is essentially the 2009 version of what Mike Lowell was for the Marlins in the Josh Beckett trade in 2006, only at a much higher cost.</p>
<p>With all that said, if the Jays view the Yankees as the ideal trading partner and the Brass pays no regard to the checking account, here&#8217;s a potential deal:</p>
<p>TO TORONTO: Joba Chamberlain/Phil Hughes, Austin Jackson, Michael Dunn/Phil Coke</p>
<p>TO NEW YORK: Roy Halladay, Vernon Wells</p>
<p>Why? The Yankees need to make a decision on Chamberlain and Hughes. Will they be starters? Relievers? Will one be a starter and the other inherit Mariano Rivera&#8217;s closer spot? In Jackson, the Jays would get a young player ready to make the leap, and the Yankees would basically be saying they&#8217;re committed to Melky Cabrera being their everyday center fielder, offensive warts and all.</p>
<p><strong>MATT HOLLIDAY</strong></p>
<p>A three-time Silver Slugger winner who has played in relative obscurity his entire career, Matt Holliday&#8217;s bat would provide additional right-handed protection in the middle of the lineup behind Alex Rodriguez. It would also allow Joe Girardi to move Canó to the No. 2 hole, where despite his .272/.293/.415 career split hitting from that spot in the order, he has the potential to thrive hitting behind Derek Jeter.</p>
<p>There are two issues with Holliday: the first is his fielding. The teams most likely in the running for Holliday — the Yankees, Red Sox, Cardinals, Giants, and Mets — all have left fields that are either spacious or asymmetrical. The GMs of those teams have to be looking at the ham-handed error he made in Game 2 of the Division Series against the Dodgers and wondering if the amount of runs he creates will outweigh the amount of opponents&#8217; runs to which his defense could contribute.</p>
<p>The second issue is Scott Boras. Numerous reports indicate Boras is likely to ask for a Teixeira-type contract both in years and cash. Is that a deal the Yankees want to make? It could be if they want to get five years younger in left field. It&#8217;s a better option than signing Damon to an eight-figure, multi-year deal.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have more of an idea of where the Yankees lean once the organizational meetings in Tampa wrap at the end of this week.</p>
<p>Even then, though, the safest bet is to not believe anything we read, hear on talk radio or see on TV. As Heyman said, the Yankees will probably be in the discussion for just about every big name available. And so will the Red Sox. Which means that if the Yankees don&#8217;t win either of the two big prizes this offseason, the only way fans will be placated is if Boston loses out on both of them also.</p>
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		<title>Roy &gt; A.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/05/12/roy-aj/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It didn&#8217;t really matter what A.J. Burnett did last night given how well Roy Halladay...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bronxbanter.arneson.name/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/051209-roy-v-aj.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-18944" title="(AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Nathan Denette)" src="http://bronxbanter.arneson.name/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/051209-roy-v-aj-300x220.jpg" alt="(AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Nathan Denette)" width="300" height="220" /></a>It didn&#8217;t really matter what A.J. Burnett did last night given how well Roy Halladay pitched. Halladay faced the minimum through 6 1/3 thanks to a questionable call by second-base umpire Chuck Meriwether who called Johnny Damon out trying to stretch a single into a double in the first inning. Fittingly, it was a Damon double that broke Halladay&#8217;s streak with one out in the seventh. After Mark Teixeira struck out, Alex Rodriguez delivered a two-out RBI single to plate Damon, but that was all the Yankees would get. Halladay erased a Melky Cabrera single in the eighth with a double play and stranded a lead-off Ramiro Peña double in the ninth. He threw 72 of 103 pitches for strikes, got 17 of his 27 outs on the ground, five more by strikeout, and two more on pop-ups, and picked up his first complete game of the year, pushing his record to 7-1. The game took just two hours and 22 minutes to play.</p>
<p>Fun stat: Since 2003, Halladay leads all major league pitchers in shutouts with 36. CC Sabathia is second with 26. Since 2006, however, Sabathia leads Halladay 22 to 21.</p>
<p>As for Burnett, he gave up three runs in the fourth after loading the bases on an Alex Rios double and two walks. Scott Rolen doubled down the left field line to plate two, and after Lyle Overbay struck out, Rod Barajas brought the third run home with a sac fly. Still, it seemed we were getting the pitching duel we had hoped for when Burnett held the Jays there and took the mound in the bottom of the eight trailing Halladay 3-1. Then Aaron Hill homered to make it 4-1 and Rios and Rolen teamed up again to plate a fifth run (via a walk, groundout, and RBI Rolen single) to bounce Burnett from the game and set the final score at <a title="box score" href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290512114" target="_blank">5-1</a>.</p>
<p>A.J. was booed lustily throughout the game by the betrayed Blue Jays fans. Chants of &#8220;A.J. Sucks&#8221; echoed throughout the Rogers Centre (as did &#8220;Steroids&#8221; chants during Alex Rodriguez&#8217;s at-bats). One fan held up a sign that said &#8220;Roy &gt; A.J.&#8221; Well, yeah. I think even he&#8217;d admit that.</p>
<p><span id="more-18943"></span>In other news, Derek Jeter sat out with an oblique strain. He said it has been bothering him for about a week, but he hopes to play tomorrow night. He told <a title="Pete's notes on Jeter, Matsui, and Wang" href="http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/05/12/updates-on-wang-jeter-and-matsui/" target="_blank">Pete Abe</a>, &#8220;I’ve pulled that muscle before and been on the disabled list two or three weeks. I’m trying to avoid that.&#8221; Hideki Matsui felt something in his hamstring coming out of the batters box on his second-inning groundout and was replaced by Nick Swisher before his next at-bat. Matsui claims it was just a cramp and he&#8217;ll be fine.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, in Scranton, Chien-Ming Wang threw <a title="details from Chad Jennings" href="http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blogs/yankees/archive/2009/05/12/may-12-yankees-vs-charlotte.aspx" target="_blank">six scoreless innings</a>, getting his fair share of groundouts. Per <a title="again from Chad Jennings" href="http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blogs/yankees/archive/2009/05/12/cashman-quot-assume-that-we-ll-keep-going-down-here-quot.aspx" target="_blank">Brian Cashman</a>, he will make at least one more rehab start. Given Phil Hughes&#8217; poor outing in Baltimore, it seems almost certain that Hughes will be optioned out when Wang returns.</p>
<p>Finally, the Yankees held a <a title="mlb.com story" href="http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090512&amp;content_id=4684716&amp;vkey=news_nyy&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=nyy" target="_blank">press conference</a> to announce the beginning of the selling off of Yankee Stadium yesterday. Just in time for Father&#8217;s Day, you can <a title="the &quot;auction&quot; site" href="http://yankees.auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/User?id=YankeesSteinerList&amp;wl=33340469&amp;type=L">spend</a> $750 plus $80 shipping for a &#8220;commemorative&#8221; seat comprised of an original seat back and bottom and &#8220;commemorative&#8221; arms. Or you can buy some freeze-dried sod in glass display case that reads &#8220;Yankee Stadium Artifact&#8221; for just $80 plus $25 shipping. If there are any wealthy readers lurking out there who want to make a donation, I&#8217;d love to have my old bleacher seats, seats 5 and 6 from row JJ of section 37, just $770 with shipping. Ouch.</p>
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		<title>FIP To Be Tied</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Weiss</dc:creator>
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