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Detroit Tigers

Detroit Tigers

2008 Record: 74-88 (.457)
2008 Pythagorean Record: 78-84 (.481)

Manager: Jim Leyland
General Manager: Dave Dombrowski

Home Ballpark (multi-year Park Factors): Comerica Park (102/102)

Who’s Replaced Whom:

  • Gerald Laird replaces Ivan Rodriguez
  • Adam Everett replaces Edgar Renteria
  • Josh Anderson replaces Gary Sheffield
  • Jeff Larish inherits Matthew Joyce’s playing time
  • Edwin Jackson replaces Kenny Rogers
  • Rick Porcello replaces Nate Robertson in the rotation
  • Nate Robertson replaces Freddy Dolsi in the bullpen
  • Fernando Rodney inherits Todd Jones’ innings
  • Brandon Lyon replaces Aquilino Lopez
  • Joel Zumaya inherits Eddie Bonine’s innings
  • Ryan Perry replaces Casey Fossum
  • Juan Rincon replaces Clay Rapada, Gary Glover, Denny Bautista, and Kyle Farnsworth

25-man Roster:

1B – Miguel Cabrera (R)
2B – Placido Polanco (R)
SS – Adam Everett (R)
3B – Brandon Inge (R)
C – Gerald Laird (R)
RF – Magglio Ordoñez (R)
CF – Curtis Granderson (L)
LF – Josh Anderson (L)
DH – Carlos Guillen (S)


R – Ramon Santiago (IF)
R – Ryan Raburn (OF)
L – Jeff Larish (3B/1B)
R – Dane Sardinha (C)


R – Justin Verlander
R – Edwin Jackson
R – Rick Porcello
R – Armando Galarraga
R – Zach Miner


R – Fernando Rodney
R – Joel Zumaya
R – Brandon Lyon
L – Bobby Seay
R – Ryan Perry
R – Juan Rincon
L – Nate Robertson

15-day DL: RHP – Jeremy Bonderman (sore shoulder), LHP – Dontrelle Willis (anxiety disorder), OF/1B – Marcus Thames (strained oblique), C – Matt Treanor (torn hip labrum)

Typical Lineup:

L – Curtis Granderson (CF)
R – Placido Polanco (2B)
R – Magglio Ordoñez (RF)
R – Miguel Cabrera (1B)
S – Carlos Guillen (DH)
R – Gerald Laird (C)
R – Brandon Inge (3B)
L – Josh Anderson (LF)
R – Adam Everett (SS)

The Tigers were the pre-season World Series favorites a year ago following their blockbuster acquisition of Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis. Instead, they finished dead last in the AL Central with a record better than only the Orioles and Mariners in the American League. What went wrong was exemplified by the performance of the two young stars they acquired from Florida. Cabrera led the AL’s fourth-best offense in hits (180), doubles (36), homers (37), RBIs (127), slugging (.537), and OPS+ (130). Willis made just seven starts, posting a 9.38 ERA, 2.21 WHIP, and walking nearly twice as many men as he struck out as the Tigers went 2-5 in the games he started, with one of the wins coming in a game in Willis left after hyperextending his knee prior to getting an out.

Just two years after they reached the World Series on the strength of a young pitching staff that was the American League’s stingiest, the Tigers allowed more runs than all but three team’s in baseball (the Rangers, Pirates, and Orioles). How did that happen? To begin with that “young” pitching staff also included Kenny Rogers, who after an injury-shortened 2007, finally reached the end of the line at age 43 last year, posting a 5.70 ERA.  The 2006 rotation also included Nate Robertson, who simply had a career year that year, his only season with an ERA better than league average. Last year, Robertson’s ERA swelled to 6.35.

Perhaps most significantly, that 2006 staff leaned too heavily on three very young arms. Joel Zumaya, who posted a 1.94 ERA in 83 1/3 relief innings at age 21 in 2006, has suffered several fluke injuries since, including one brought on by an excess of Guitar Hero, and a major shoulder injury sustained while trying to move his belongings out of the way of the California wild fires a couple of years ago. More tellingly, Jeremy Bonderman threw 214 innings at age 23 in 2006 (and 749 major league innings from ages 20 to 23) and hasn’t been healthy since he elbow gave out in July of 2007.

Then there’s tonight’s starter, Justin Verlander. A college product who spent just one year in the minors before throwing 186 innings and winning the AL Rookie of the Year award for the 2006 pennant winners, Verlander has had no problem taking the ball since, and was even better in his sophomore season, when he threw 201 2/3 innings at age 24, but he’s increasingly losing his ability to determine where the ball is going. Verlander led the majors in wild pitches and hit batsmen in 2007, and last year saw his walk rate increase by nearly one free pass per nine innings while his ERA swelled to 4.84. So far this year, his walk rate is 3.9 BB/9, the same as it was a year ago, and he’s getting lit up as he’s allowed six or more runs in three of his four starts and opposing batters are hitting .303/.370/539 against him. Verlander still has his high-90s heater, but he can’t throw anything else for a strike.

Fortunately for the Tigers, Dave Dombrowski is a very good general manager. Last February, he acquired Armando Galarraga from the Rangers for marginal minor league outfielder Michael Hernandez. Galarraga emerged as the Tigers’ best starter last year, posting a 3.73 ERA in 28 starts and a pair of relief appearances. This offseason, he traded promising young slugger Matt Joyce to the Rays for Edwin Jackson, the still-just-25-year-old former Dodgers prospect who had a breakout season last year and has thus far this year been second only to Galarraga among Tigers starters (Jackson will start tomorrow’s game). In 2007, Dombrowski ponied up to sign Scott Boras client and New Jersey native Rick Porcello after drafting him in the first round. After a strong showing at high-A last year, Porcello, who will match-up with Joba Chamberlain on Wednesday, has lept right into the big-league rotation, bouncing Robertson to the bullpen (though one does have to wonder if Porcello’s quick advancement is once again too much too soon for a talented young Tiger starter). Just like that, the Tigers have a new rotation that will take what it can get from the currently disabled Bonderman (sore elbow) and Willis (anxiety disorder a.k.a. Steve Blass disease).

Better yet, Dombrowski has upgraded his defense by replacing the unproductive big-name veterans from last year’s team with young, inexpensive glovemen. The logic there is that if the players at those positions are going to help at the plate, they should at least help in the field. So gone is 33-year-old free agent shortstop Edgar Renteria ($9 million, 84 OPS+, -0.9 UZR in 2008) and in is slick fielding Adam Everett on a one-year, $1 million deal. Gone is 40-year-old designated hitter Gary Sheffield (90 OPS+ in 2008), so that the still-productive 33-year-old Carlos Guillen (114 OPS+, but a -2.9 UZR at third base in 2008) can DH while the slick-fielding Brandon Inge moves back to third base. That also frees up left field for the speedy 26-year-old Josh Anderson, a late-spring acquisition from the Braves. Before all of that, Dombrowski dumped now-37-year-old catcher and impending free agent Ivan Rodriguez ($13 million, 87 OPS+ in 2008) at last year’s deadline, and has since replaced him with 29-year-old former Rangers prospect Gerald Laird via an offseason trade that sent two marginal minor league pitchers to Texas.

Laird is the only one in that group likely to provide a boost to the offense, and his contributions are likely to be more than undermined by those of Anderson, Everett, and Inge (despite the last’s hot start), but the improvement in team defense is significant enough to have been worth the exchange. Only three AL teams (including the Yankees) were worse than the Tigers at turning balls in play into outs last year. So far this year, only five AL teams are better at it than Detroit. Similarly, the Tigers have gone from being the fourth-worst run-preventers in the AL last year, are the sixth best in the league this year, and they still have the fourth-best offense in the junior circuit. All of that has them sitting on top of the AL Central with a 10-8 record.

The Yankees send CC Sabathia to the hill tonight looking to rebound from his messy 6 2/3 innings in last Wednesday’s 14-inning monstrosity. CC has walked a total of 14 men against eight strikeouts in three of his four starts (in the other he walked nine and struck out six). His season totals of 14 walks and 14 strikeouts are an exact match for his totals through four starts a year ago. Last year, he flipped the switch in his fifth start (6 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 11 K in Kansas City) and never looked back. The Yankees hope the fifth time’s the charm this year as well.

Here’s more on CC from Alex and Ted Berg:

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1 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:14 pm

Yeah I'm looking forward to a good start from Sabathia. He better get it in gear, we really need him to.

2 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:16 pm

Hawk, did you watch the clip? You make a cameo of sorts.

3 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:19 pm

Woot @ Hawk, our new celebrity and baseball analyst!

C'mon CC! How about a "quality start" on the road tonight in the vacant city that was once Detroit, Michigan?

4 ms october   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:28 pm

yes, let's hope cc makes a similar jump this year.

the yanks pitchers are walking too many people.

admittedly sss issues - but bb/9 date - career in parentheses:
cc 5.2 (2.9)
aj 4.4 (3.7)
andy 2.0 (2.9)
joba 5.6 (3.5)
cmw 9.0 (2.6)

thankfully we don't have to watch angel berroa at 3b tonight

5 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:34 pm

Just win the damn game.

6 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:38 pm

from Petey:

Johnny Damon said his left shoulder “hurts all over” and he wouldn’t mind a cortisone shot. But he doesn’t want to get any tests done. “I can’t see any good coming of that,” he said. “I’d rather play with some pain.”

ain't that just lovely?

7 rbj   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:41 pm

[5] Amen.

8 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:41 pm

Ha! I watched it now ... I'm famous! I'm glad I'm not the only one with that opinion of CC, and it's humorously gratifying to hear someone talking about what "The Hawk" says ... Suddenly the faux-seriousness of my handle takes on a new dimension.

9 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:43 pm

There is talk at Lohud about a post at RAB that talks about our pitchers ERA when Po catches vs. Molina. We know Molina is much better at throwing and blocking the plate (did you see Po on that steal of home?), but it is harder to qualify how important calling a game is, and how Po vs. Molina compare.

If Matsui is done, I wonder if splitting the C duties, with PO DH'ing when Molina catches might have some merrit. It would also help preserve Po for the next 2 years.

As much as I hate Molina's bat, I'm more upset when we lose Po's bat, as opposed to Molina in the 8 hole.


10 unmoderated   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:44 pm

that ted berg is a real charmer.

11 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 6:54 pm

We all "learned" of Po's "expertise" in calling games, when Randy Johnson vehemently protested to having him as a battery mate...

This is nothing new from here, OYF...

These days, we get the first words out of Burnett's hole with respect to Kim Jones' "Wha ha happan to Varitek on the slam?" was "Pitch selection"...

I'm siding with the arms on this issue.

One would think after more than a decade of facing Varitek "hitting," Po would know what to do by now!

Obviously not...

12 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:07 pm

maybe we should have Molina call the game from the bench when Po is catching!

love to be a fly on the wall when Girardi told Jorge about *that* arrangement!

13 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:15 pm

Off to a bad start

14 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:18 pm

It actually wasn't that bad, at least Sabathia didn't throw a shitload of pitches. At this rate he'll be able to go 9. And give up 9 runs.

15 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:20 pm

Robby is en fuego.

16 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:23 pm

hmmm ... it appears that Swiffer! has returned with a vengeance ...

17 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:25 pm

I'm a Melky booster but he looked terrible there.

18 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:27 pm

[6] update from Petey:

UPDATE, 7:15 p.m.: Don’t know if television showed this or not. But when Damon made a throw to second to try to get Polanco, he spun around afterward and appeared to be in pain. He also was flexing his shoulder throughout the rest of the inning.

It would not be shocking if Damon had to come out of the game.

and the hits just keep on coming ...

[17] strikes 2 & 3 were nasty pitches from Verlander

19 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:27 pm

I don't want any more of Melky. If Gardner can't cut it, free Austin Jackson!

And why does Robby hit so much better on the road? I thought lefties were supposed to love Yankee Stadium.

20 RagingTartabull   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:30 pm

I really do not like this at-bat

21 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:32 pm

Well, this game is going poorly.

What happened to the days of easily striking out Brandon Inge?

22 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:33 pm

I don’t want any more of Melky. If Gardner can’t cut it, free Austin Jackson!

you mean the Austin Jackson with 15k's in 48 AAA ab's?

i think Action's exactly where he ought to be right now.

23 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:34 pm

Ted Berg appears young enough to be carded in most bars ...

24 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:35 pm

At least we got a hit/

25 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:38 pm

[21] At least CC doesn't have to face Gary Sheffield tonight!

And no Michael Kay, to boot!

Somebody somewhere likes us!

: )

26 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:39 pm

welcome to the bigs, rook.

verlander looks real tough tonite.

27 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:40 pm

[22] I don't really care about strikeouts. His OBP is .429. If it turns out he's Adam Dunn with a better glove, I'm fine with that.

28 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:43 pm

Strike zone seems a little wide to the right tonight.

29 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:45 pm


So Scott Norwood would approve .... ?

30 unmoderated   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:46 pm

25 - i was wondering why the game seemed so pleasant... no Kay

31 unmoderated   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:46 pm

Diane, you are full of zingers.

32 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:50 pm


Just trying to keep things entertaining ... :-)

33 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:51 pm

Chin music, broken bats...

CC is "rounding into shape!"

Sorry about that feeble line...

: )

34 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:53 pm


except Adam Dunn struck out about every 5 plate appearances in his year at AAA and was on 40 HR pace.

right now, you're looking at Rob Deer level whiffery, without the power.

Obviously it's a SSS, but I can't see the Yankees wanting to promote him until he gets the k rate under control (and actually, i think either he'll lower the k rate, or his performance will begin to suffer in response)

35 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:53 pm

Remember when the Marlins started out 11-1?

They've lost 6 in a row, and now have given up 6 runs in first inning to Mets tonight.

36 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:58 pm

It really seems as if the "personality" of this team changed as soon as Mo blew that save (kind of like the 2004 ALCS). How a team comes back after a tough loss is often an indicator of how good they are. The Yankees are not exactly inspiring confidence right now.

37 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 7:58 pm


38 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:02 pm

[34] I can't help thinking that the Yankees are planning to call up Jackson this year. Otherwise, they'd have traded for Cameron or something. Gardner really hadn't proved anything at the Major League Level, and Melky has provided three years of steadily declining production.

39 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:02 pm

[35] Yeah, along those lines, I find myself reminding those lauding Toronto's start to their season, that they and Texas are the only teams in the AL to have not faced a team from their respective divisions yet.

Odd, but true... and probably meaningful too, especially where Toronto is concerned...

40 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:05 pm

[36] Right now, the Yankees are inspiring other things to do during their games I'm afraid, like going to get ice cream!

: /

41 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:06 pm

hmmm ... CC's starting to lock in tonite.

42 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:07 pm


better ice cream than bourbon!

43 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:07 pm

[41] Agree. And like The Hawk, I think one good start will breed another good start.

44 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:08 pm

[41] Clearly he's made advances from both of his Opening Day starts (in B'more and at home).

: )

45 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:09 pm

man, that was beautiful.

molina was standing up and walking to the dugout before the pitch even hit his glove.

46 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:09 pm

[42] True... true...

47 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:11 pm

With no one on, why was Molina showing bunt?

Did he forget he was Molina?

48 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:12 pm

Here's hopeing blue gets horse by the (in my best Michael Kay) fift inning!

49 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:12 pm

[47] maybe he thought he'd hit it past the fielders as they were laughing helplessly?

50 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:16 pm

[49] He was trying for his first inside-the-park-HR, if that were the case...

51 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:21 pm

Nice, Swish.

52 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:21 pm

Bobby Abreu is not impressed by Swisher's defense ...

53 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:21 pm

nice to have a RF willing to go back to the wall again ...

54 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:23 pm

also nice to have a 1b not afraid of throwing the ball around the infield again as well ...

55 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:25 pm

Now that they're not afraid of catching and not afraid of throwing, they have to decide to not be afraid to win.

56 Raf   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:27 pm

[35] Not only that, but the defending AL Champs are in last place... I wonder if there is panic among the Tampa Bay fan(s)?

57 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:28 pm

Yankees better find a way to win this game...handing the ball to Hughes with a 4-game losing streak isn't the best way to make him feel comfortable.

58 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:29 pm

Maybe it might be a good idea to make Verlander work a little? At least try to get him out of the game in the 7th and 8th?

59 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:29 pm

Just into Gameday..Verlander with 8 Ks..he's got it tonight, eh?
How is CC though? only 1 run..

60 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:31 pm

_____________has had a tough season. It is hard to believe____________has such poor numbers. _____________has good sfuff but he has trouble putting it all together consistently. Tonight,_____________has it all going against the Yankees. sigh. some old song and dance.

61 rbj   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:32 pm

May, I'd really hate to waste a good outing by CC.

62 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:32 pm

2009 feels a lot like 2008...too much like 2008.

63 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:34 pm

It'd be nice to see the Yankees "do whatever you can".

64 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:36 pm

I really liked seeing Tex go towards the pitcher on that play. It made it all the easier to throw Inge out. Very "Mattinglyesque" (sorry again Alex)...

There has got to be some way in this modern era of medicine and genetics such that we can splice Po's bat onto Molina, or Molina's game-calling brain into Po, or both! If we could combine them, they would yield Johnny Bench!

: )

65 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:37 pm

Forget the runner CC....just get outs.

66 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:38 pm

The run is a product of a smart player getting on base and a pitcher not being smart by diverting his attention.

The Yankees continue to play miserably...at some point, someone has to be held accountable because another sub.-500 April should not be acceptable.

67 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:38 pm

Damon, you outta let Melky get those.

68 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:38 pm


69 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:39 pm

I feel like I've seen this inning before...

70 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:40 pm

This has become a Yankee theme... as soon as a leak springs, the damn breaks. Such teams usually don't fare well.

71 Yankster   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:40 pm

Yeah, that HR was a sign of capitulation. Let's hope it snapped CC back to attention

72 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:40 pm

Swisher almost went through the fence, like in that commercial.

73 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:41 pm


ok, *that* was my fault.

i left to go get wine for dinner and LOOK what happened.


74 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:41 pm

Even when Sabathia is pitching well .. he's not pitching very well.

75 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:41 pm

[71] It's way too late to be snapped back to attention.

76 PJ   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:42 pm




Time for another ice cream run...

At this rate, I'll be as large as Sabathia in another couple of weeks!

They are entirely unwatchable!

: (

77 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:42 pm

Really too bad about the tater but the Yanks were liable to lose this anyway. In fact I would have been okay with it, cause Verlander is pitching his ass off. But 4 ER (and counting) is really disappointing.

78 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:43 pm

[77] Close games and the Tigers bullpen equal wins for the opposition. Sabathia allowed a bunt single to take him out of his game. Such a poor level of concentration is worrisome.

79 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:45 pm

Another losing record in April..they better wake up soon or else Boston will run away with this division.

80 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:46 pm

With a potentially unsettled Hughes going tomorrow and the Angels coming in this weekend, things could get ugly fast and the Girardi job watch might be on. I am starting to think this team needs a major jolt...if they keep sleepwalking, it better come sooner than later.

81 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:47 pm

[73] OTOH, i now have the booze i'll need to get through this game.

i suppose i'll declare the trip a draw.

82 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:50 pm

great play on both ends ... even if he was safe!

83 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:50 pm

Looks like a tie going to the runner on the Laird bunt...

84 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:50 pm

Another bunt...wonder why the Yankees don't seem interested in trying to reach base against a pitcher who has proven very difficult to hit.

85 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:53 pm

Well... the good news is we are seeing what truly dominant pitching does. The bad news.........

86 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:58 pm

The Yankee offense is like "Tales From Topographic Oceans". An endless loop of nibbling that goes nowhere..

My optimism from yesterday has vanished. This is not a championship team. Cashman should pay..

87 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 8:59 pm

Pena's the unstoppable force!

88 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:01 pm

My optimism from yesterday has vanished. This is not a championship team. Cashman should pay..

i didn't think there was anymore room on the ledge ...

89 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:01 pm

Pena 2 for 3. Let the kid play!

90 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:02 pm

This is why Sabathia's concentration lapse was so costly.

91 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:02 pm

Stay strong, dudes. : )

92 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:04 pm

[89] Maybe the team's better off without A-Rod!

93 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:04 pm

Is it really a coincidence that A Rod disappeared right when he was at his most embarrassing? It was the perfect time to force the issue - "Yeah, you're bummed about the steroids and grossed out by me and Madonna, and me and my reflection? See how bummed and grossed out you are when I'm not out there mashing for your team!"

He probably drugged Cody Ransom to ensure his presence would have been missed even by his most vocal detractors. When he sees a bottom four of Swisher, Cabrera, Molina and Pena in the lineup, his heart soars.

94 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:06 pm

Awful AB by Damon...if he is going to be playing hurt, the offense has another out in the lineup.

95 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:08 pm

[93] I buy that!

tex..get a hit now please??

96 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:08 pm

I don't blame Cashman for this. It's not his fault A Rod and Nady got hurt. Sabathia was a sure thing. (He still oughtta pan out, no?) ... Burnett hasn't been the problem. The bullpen has been over-extended by the underperforming starting pitching.

If we're blaming someone who's not actually playing, I choose Girardi.

97 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:08 pm

At some point, Teixeira has to get a big hit.

98 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:08 pm


i thought that was GONE off the bat.

call me Michael Kay.

99 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:08 pm

How many balls has Tex hit to the warning track or close to it?

A lot.

100 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:10 pm

This is the second time the Yankees have led of an inning with two straight hits and then not so much as advanced a runner. The inability of this team to cash in on its opportunities is becoming epidemic...it was the same disease that inflicted last year's team as well.

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101 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:11 pm

2 hits in a row. Check. Pop out. Check. Fly out. Check. K. G-Damn Check. FUCK!

102 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:12 pm

At some point you just have to work on fundamentals..call it small ball or whatever. But continuning to strand runners like this..

103 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:12 pm

after another O fer the game with RiSP, i'm wondering if Kevin Long won't be the first to be thrown to the wolves.

104 zack   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:13 pm

Well, coming in late. Back under .500 it looks like, just like last year, and the year before and....Sigh, why is this team so unprepared, underachieving, and so infuriating to watch? DIgging yet another April hole to spend the rest of the year climbing out of

105 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:14 pm

and would it have killed Joey Joe Joe to have considered a double steal with Pena and Jeter

106 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:14 pm

[103] Long, Girardi, whomever...this team sadly needs a jolt.

107 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:16 pm

Offensive ineptitude aside, this WAS NOT a good start for Sabathia. Losing his concentration at a pivotal point of the game is worse than giving up 7 runs in 6 innings, IMHO.

108 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:16 pm

I forget who keeps saying it here but.."Paging Bobby V! Paginf Bobby V!" The Chiba Lotte Marines have already said they won't renew his contract..should they make the move?

109 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:17 pm

well, at least 1 positive thing will come from this game.

we've finally got a 3rd baseman that can field the position.

110 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:18 pm

CC looked good in the 8th. Maybe this is the corner turning game. You know, where the corner punctures your lung.

But after the turn, there will be no more corners!

111 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:18 pm

[108] Why are they not renewing his contract? I thought they loved him over there.

And I'm loving Pena so far. Why did they even think of playing Berroa out of position over Pena?

112 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:18 pm

[109] I know this sounds totally crazy, but Eric Duncan is finally raking. I would love to see him get at least one MLB at bat in a Yankee uniform.

113 Yankster   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:19 pm

Leadoff double. What you think will happen now?

114 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:19 pm


goodness it's fun when you get to see the RIPPER and not ROTTEN ROBBIE.

115 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:20 pm

[111] Fans worship him, they built a shrine outside the stadium to him.
Ownership don'tt..they resent his popularity and his blunt criticisms of how backwards the league is in terms of promotion/marketing, etc..

116 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:20 pm

Keep lacing, Robbie. Pena's looked sharp. C.C. was better. Eh!. Beats a sharp stick in the eye. Or listening to Micheal Kay. Bye Shutout.

117 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:20 pm



*it'll look like a line drive in the box score!

118 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:21 pm

[112] It's not totally crazy.

Eric Duncan becomes a free agent after this season. It's use him or lose him time for the Yanks. Might as well give him a shot. He can't be worse than Berroa.

119 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:22 pm

wow ... can Jorge do it again?

120 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:22 pm

Beat-beat. Beat-beat. Beat-beat.

121 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:23 pm

sure wish we'd managed to get another run at some point in this damn game ...

122 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:23 pm

Awright! show some gumption here guys! Elbow grease! Moxie! "Fighting Spirit!"

123 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:24 pm

c'mon Blue.

124 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:24 pm


125 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:24 pm




126 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:24 pm

A productive DP?

127 Yankster   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:24 pm

[124] nope

128 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:25 pm

Was Posada running down the line? Meanwhile, another big HR from Jason Bay. I think it's time to kiss Boston good bye.

129 Just Fair   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:25 pm

Cabrera can't even take out a 2b properly. Ugh.

130 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:25 pm

Well the silver lining is they showed some fight ... right?

131 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:25 pm

Posada had a piano on his back ....

132 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:26 pm

well ... see y'all tomorrow for Phil's start ...

133 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:26 pm

Melky did good with that hit. I think hits with runners on, even if they don't score, are really good momentum builders. Usually.

134 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:26 pm

[131] I think he was trying to be clutch like Jeter and wound up with a Jeterian at bat.

135 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:27 pm

[130] The silver lining is that Verlander can't start tomorrow or the next day.

136 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:27 pm

Sadly, I think the 2009 Yankees have shown us exactly what they are made of...it's time to put Girardi on the clock. Play like this should no longer be tolerated.

137 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:29 pm

Baseball is a funny game. That being said, let's get rid of Girardi.

138 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:29 pm

I think A-Rod clinches AL MVP right now .... look at how much the Yanks are scuffling without him

139 RagingTartabull   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:31 pm

ya know, Buck Showalter is available...

140 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:34 pm

Watching the replay, Posada's lack of hustle down the line is indefensible. For someone who is supposed to be a leader on this team, such a lack of effort is shocking.

141 RagingTartabull   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:34 pm

In all seriousness though, I can't see Girardi having an axe hanging over him when a) his best player is yet to have an at-bat, and b) his number 2 starter has to decided he would like to start pitching blindfolded. If this team is still scuffling around .500 on June 15th then yeah, but not before that.

142 tommyl   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:34 pm

I get home from my soccer game and they already lost?! Ugh, seriously?

[138] No no no, this team is so much better with a gritty 3B who is a team player and knows how to win. Right? Right?

Can we all now agree, whatever happens postseason or whatever, this team is a dead ship without one Alex Rodriguez. Love him or hate him, but we've scored how many runs the past two games?

143 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:39 pm

[141] don't you go making any level-headed sense around these parts ...

144 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm

[141] You can't wait until mid-June again...all of the same problems from last year have carried over to this season. At some point, a change become necessary. If the Yankees don't turn it around by this time next week, I think it's time to change the manager.

145 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:41 pm

at least the Wahoos are laying into Papelbon..

[144] and replace him with who? Joe G was supposed to be the "fire" to Joe T's "ice"...

146 RagingTartabull   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:44 pm

[144] Believe me, I'm not the most patient one in the world, far from it. I just have a tough time saying "Sorry Joe, I know that you don't have your 3 hitter, your second starter, your 8th inning man, and half of your RF platoon, but we think its time for a change"

147 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:44 pm

[142] Since the Yanks haven't replaced A Rod with such a player, it's not a legitimate argument. Scott Brosius would also have been sorely missed with this lot taking his place. Most 3rd basemen would.

And the Yankee offense hasn't been bad at all. Yeah they got shut down tonight, but the guy was pitching his ass off. It happens. Last night they just gave up I think. Anyway they obviously don't need A Rod to not get big hits for them; they've got that covered.

148 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:44 pm

[145] Maybe Mattingly...maybe Showalter...maybe Pena. The bottom line is you can't keep playing mediocre baseball. It seems like this team wilts under any kind of adversity, and that ultimately reflects on the manager. If the Yankees don't break out soon and the team does nothing to shake things up, we'll be looking at another summer hovering around .500.

149 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:46 pm

[146] You are leaving out last year though. It's not like Girardi has only managed 20 games. Also, in Boston, Francona's #3 hitter would be better off injured, one of his top starters in on the DL, his SS has been hurt, etc. and yet they found a way to pull the rug out from under the Yankees and start off hot (after a tough 2-6 start).

150 Diane Firstman   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:53 pm


I noticed that too .... depressing

151 RagingTartabull   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:54 pm

[149] I'm not absolving Girardi of his (partial) responsibility for last year, but that was barely a playoff caliber team going into the season and thats on Cashman. Once Wang and Posada went down it moved from being a borderline team to a not very good team. And they still managed to win 89 games for everything that went wrong.

Lets just say for sake of argument that the Yankees go 3-7 over the next 10 and Girardi gets canned. At which time A-Rod comes back and starts doing A-Rod things (the good things), Wang gets straightened out and becomes at the very least a respectable starter, and Bruney comes off the DL prompting the Yankees to go on a 15-5 run. Would that mean that the replacement manager was somehow doing something Girardi wasn't?

152 randym77   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:55 pm

I want A-Rod back, but you can't pin this loss on his absence. Pena was 2 for 4 and provided fine defense.

It's the pitching that's been our problem.

153 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:55 pm

It's Early; it's April seems to be the theme in the Yankee clubhose. Talk about deja vu. I guess there is no sense of urgency with this club, which kind of explains a lot.

154 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 9:56 pm


"It seems like this team wilts under any kind of adversity, and that ultimately reflects on the manager. "

This is what it comes down to for me. These players don't need a tactician, they need a leader.

155 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 27, 2009 10:11 pm

[154] Where is the Captain?

Posada lollygagging on the bases doesn't help things..

Hughes..he will ride in to save us!

156 Chyll Will   ~  Apr 27, 2009 10:14 pm

You guys are cracking ME up! Haa!

157 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Apr 27, 2009 10:42 pm

Four game losing streak, woo-hooo!

That's how we roll, baby, that's how we roll!

158 The Hawk   ~  Apr 27, 2009 10:53 pm

[155] The Captain's where he's always been .... Through good and bad.

159 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Apr 27, 2009 11:12 pm

Of course it's better to have Alex than not to have Alex, but it really doesn't seem to me that his absence is the reason we're losing. Leaving aside the pitching, we strand way too many runners. And Tex, our number three hitter, has done nothing. Robbie's providing plenty of production to make up for Alex' absence. You bring back Alex and obviously it will make a difference (especially if he's protecting Tex, presumably), but there are enough bats on this team as is for them not to be a game under .500.

160 Raf   ~  Apr 27, 2009 11:21 pm

It’s Early; it’s April seems to be the theme in the Yankee clubhose. Talk about deja vu. I guess there is no sense of urgency with this club, which kind of explains a lot.

Sense of urgency? In April? C'mon... Tampa Bay's in last place, Toronto's in first. Shall we end the season now, proclaim the Jays world champs? Should TB management fire Joe Maddon?

We aren't a 1/4 of the way through the season, a lot can happen between now and the trading deadline, and eventually the end of the season.

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