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News of the Day

Game 5 of the Series may have been suspended, but news about the Yankees never sleeps. Here’s today’s line-up:

  • Over at ESPN’s Page 2, writer Jeff Pearlman catches up with 1998 World Series MVP Scott Brosius, who is now a very contented baseball coach at his alma mater, Linfield College.
  • New York Post blogger Tim Bontemps reports on Baseball America’s ranking of the top 20 prospects at each level/league of the minors, and where any future Mets and Yanks show up. Brett Gardner was the only local to crack the Triple-A level top 20, at number 19 in the International League.
  • MLB.COM reports that the late Catfish Hunter was remembered at the annual Lou Gehrig Sports Award benefit in New York last night. Graig Nettles and Tommy John were in attendance to support the cause of ALS research. Chris Chambliss received an award, but was unable to attend due to an illness in the family.
  • The NY Times has an article on a one-credit research seminar on the topic of Yankee Stadium, being offered at Rutgers University. Topics of research include the hero in American culture, the plusses and minuses of urban development, and the relationship between public finance and private enterprise.

til tomorrow …

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1 Pete   ~  Oct 28, 2008 10:44 am

Brett Gardner? That's it, really?


2 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Oct 28, 2008 11:00 am

Man, where was that seminar when I was at Rutgers?

Pete, note that Garder's the only one on the list at Triple-A, and that's among the top 20 prospects at that level in all of baseball. Actually, if you ask me, Gardner's not the top Yankee prospect at Triple-A (he's also not at Triple-A in my mind, but the major league starting CF until further notice). I'd probably put Mark Melancon as the Yankees' top triple-A prospect, and Ian Kennedy might still be neck-and-neck with Gardner, if only because he's younger. Also, Austin Jackson will be in Triple-A in '09, so there's more on the way.

3 Pete   ~  Oct 28, 2008 1:25 pm

And I would assume the players on that list would be required a certain # of ABs or appearances at the AAA level?

I didn't see that info anywhere on BA's site... then again I'm not a subscriber. :)

4 Alex Belth   ~  Oct 28, 2008 1:34 pm

Ah, Brett Garnder...

5 thelarmis   ~  Oct 28, 2008 1:44 pm

thanks for the previewing feature. i guess you're gonna have to fix the grammar, it says: "Preview YOU Comment" : )

the commenter's names are now really small. any way to put them back to the larger print?

thanks guys!

ps - i'm digging diane's "news of the day" posts w/ links and todd drew's human interest stories. welcome aboard, we're happy to read you!

6 Shaun P.   ~  Oct 28, 2008 1:47 pm

Cool! Comment preview, comments in chronological order, and the clock is EDT. Well done Alex, Cliff, et al.

7 thelarmis   ~  Oct 28, 2008 1:57 pm

[6] hey, alright! the EDT clock is awesome and i'm glad the commenter names are back to being bigger. i'm happy the comments are numbered now. i wonder if they should be in bold. comment preview is cool and am sure will say "your" soon enough. you guys are quick to the fix and it's much appreciated!

thanks for the password info shaun. i went in and changed mine. i think everything is all set...

ps - for those wondering, there's a short post on Nino Espinosa at Cardboard Gods today...

8 Pete   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:14 pm

Wow, no more nested comments? I actually liked those a lot, and it made replying to someone easier. The numbers thing was a bit antiquated IMO.

Don't try to make it *exactly* like the Toaster, guys — there are definitely some advantages to hosting on Wordpress.

Oh, and can this be fixed, btw:


I can't see what I'm typing!

9 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:20 pm

Pete, we concluded after last night's game thread that, while the nesting comments are fun for shorter threads like this one, for the long and rapid-fire exchanges during games it's just too difficult to follow as you have to scan the whole thread to see if anyone's replied to a given conversation.

As for that extended dialog box. That's particularly strange as that's not what my screen looks like. In fact, even the shape of the buttons differs i that screen grab from what I have here. What browser are you using?

10 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:30 pm


Thanks ... glad you like it!

11 Pete   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:33 pm

Well the whole point of the numbers was that you could link back to the original post by putting it in brackets. Wordpress doesn't seem to have that functionality, so ultimately what's the use of the numbers?

Anyway, I won't argue this point much, just pointing out how the nesting feature seems more intuitive to someone like myself. Toaster was more like "Web 1.0" in its technology, and I'm sure that's why a lot of the older readers were more comfortable with it. Things were straight-forward, flat, and relatively easy to follow.

However there's plenty of sites that use nesting for game threads — bloggingtheboys.com (a site I frequent), for example, has the feature and while there's massive amounts of posts flying around during the games, they seem to manage it all well enough.

River Avenue Blues uses nesting as well, and they get quite a bit of traffic too.

Anyway, as for the dialog box, I'm using FireFox on a Mac — I realize I'm completely in the minority so I won't expect you to labor over it much because of *me*, but this wasn't happening as of yesterday (or even this morning), and it's sort of annoying to post here because of it.

12 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:45 pm

Okay. I'm using FireFox on a PC with no issue, but I'll add your concern to the list. As we said yesterday, bear with us. There may be a lot of tweaking going on around here for a while. Just because we change something doesn't mean we won't change if further or change it back. But do please keep the feedback coming. It's very helpful.

13 Pete   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:50 pm

Speaking of feedback, all the type is red right now. :)

14 Pete   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:51 pm

and now everything is in a grey box. Tweaking in action!!! :)

15 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:52 pm


John McCain paid for it ...

16 thelarmis   ~  Oct 28, 2008 2:53 pm

[12] i'm using Firefox on what i think is a PC, also. i just have a little laptop. bottom of the line old Dell. my friend set it up where when my main browser comes up, there are 4 different website tabs atop. one, of course, is bronx banter, but it's the toaster address. do you know how i can change it to where that one tab opens to here? if not, it's all good, i just follow the link from the "movin' on" post at the toaster for now and i'll call my buddy for help...

btw, all the posts just became the color red. i know you guys are doing eighty million things at once in regards to the new site. thanks for workin' with us on the kinks!

17 OldYanksFan   ~  Oct 28, 2008 4:39 pm

[9] Cliff... Another thought.

PS: The text in this input box is now pretty small. Can to increase the size a point or 2?

Lets say there are 500 comments, and 12 are in response to comment [9]. Now I log on and read comment 9. In order to see every one that has replied to it, I have to read the entire thread. This is where nesting is far superior... and offers comtinuity on topics/replies.

However, I always have the option of just positng my reply like:
[9] Heres my reply,
and it will be the last comment posted. (like the 'old' days.

So, if you turn nesting back on, the commenter can choose 'to nest or not to nest'. Now, the only option is ONLY NOT to nest. Also, since comments are now numbered (GREAT), if the last comment in the post ''list' is [422], but a nested comment is [423], well.... at least ya know that when that reply was made. (numbers are a lot easier to digest and remember then clock times)

I would turn nesting back on, but encourage people to use [##] if they like, instead of having their comment nested.

18 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Oct 28, 2008 4:57 pm

OYF, the problem as I see it having experienced it first-hand in last night's game thread, is that nesting might be more convenient for someone coming in after the fact looking to read all related posts, but in the moment it's not conducive to the fast-paced, multi-topic conversations that we tend to have here, particularly during games. Having to scan back over an entire comment thread to look for nested responses and then having to reply to each thread separately takes way too long, particularly when you have one eye on the game and new comments are going up several time a minute. It's my impression that readers are less likely to want to read an old comment thread than they are to want to be able to participate efficiently in a new one, thus streamlining the process for active threads is my primary concern.

I, like you, thought on first glance that the nesting would be an improvement, but having seen it in action on an active thread I've changed my mind and the other commenters in that thread seemed to be in unanimous agreement on the nesting issue. Having both options would only complicate things further. I think we all need to play by the same rules here.

As for the text in the input box, I'll add it to the list of things to address.

19 Chyll Will   ~  Oct 28, 2008 7:23 pm

Hey guys, what'd I miss? >;)

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