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Baltimore Orioles III: Tie Breaker

The Yankees and Orioles split their first six head-to-head games this season, all of which were played in Baltimore, but the three Yankee losses were all directly attributable to poor starting pitching performances: CC Sabathia on Opening Day (4 1/3 IP, 6 R), Chien-Ming Wang the next day (3 2/3 IP, 7 R), and Phil Hughes two Saturdays ago (1 2/3 IP, 8 R). The Orioles scored just five runs against the Yankees in the other three games, while the Yankees have scored at least four runs in all six games and are averaging 5.83 R/G on the series.

That’s been par for the course for the O’s this year, as only the Nationals have allowed more runs per game than the O’s 5.92. That’s hardly come as a surprise. The first sentence of my season preview for the O’s back on April 6 attacked the quality of their starting rotation. Now, just shy of the quarterpole, the O’s starting rotation sports a 5.76 ERA, better than only that of the Phillies, who come to town on Friday.

The O’s are optimistic about the return of lefty Rich Hill from the disabled list, and his first start gave them reason to be, but the Yankees won’t see him this week. Nor will they face early-season staff ace Koji Uehara, who has held the Yanks to two runs over 11 innings thus far this season and sports a 4.34 ERA that’s nearly a run better than that of the O’s next best starter. Instead they’ll kick things off tonight against 23-year-old rookie Brad Bergesen, who has lasted six full innings just twice in five starts (and never more than six full) and has allowed at least three runs every time out, though he’s also not done worse than the five runs in four innings he allowed in his second major league start.

Bergesen and tomorrow’s starter, Jeremy Guthrie, who has two nearly identical quality starts against the Yankees this year, have been middling thus far, sporting .500 records and ERAs in the low 5.00s. Thursday’s starter, Adam Eaton, has been awful (2-4, 7.93 ERA). Things don’t look much better in the pen, though Danys Baez has made a nice return from Tommy John surgery and George Sherrill continues to cling to his closer job despite Dave Trembley announcing that the role would be shared.

At the plate, the O’s have lost one of their hottest hitters, DH/left fielder Luke Scott (.303/.384/.515) to the DL, and have been without their hottest, center fielder Adam Jones (.370/.426/.669), since Wednesday due to a tender hamstring.

Jones is expected to return to the lineup tonight, which is bad news for the Yankees, though CC Sabathia could help get him back off on the wrong foot. Sabathia avenged his Opening Day loss with a four-hit shutout of the O’s two turns ago. He then held the league-best Toronto offense to two runs over eight innings his last time out. After struggling with his control in three of his first four starts, Sabathia has walked just six men in his four (1.17 BB/9) and seems to have over come his one-bad-inning syndrome in his last two strong performances.

It’s easy to say that players like Sabathia and Mark Teixeira are starting to click with the Yankees riding a six-game winning streak, but those performances are part of why the Yankees are on a six-game winning streak to begin with. Tonight, CC looks to make it seven. I like his chances.

Hideki Matsui returns to the lineup today as the DH batting fifth, and Brian Bruney is supposed to be activated before game time. No word yet on which reliever is getting shipped out to make room for him, though I suspect Edwar Ramirez, who unlike Jose Veras has options left, could be on his way to Scranton.

Baltimore Orioles

2009 Record: 16-22 (.421)
2009 Pythagorean Record: 16-22 (.421)

Manager: Dave Trembley
General Manager: Andy MacPhail

Home Ballpark (multi-year Park Factors): Oriole Park at Camden Yards (103/104)

Who’s Replaced Whom:

  • Nolan Reimold (minors) replaces Luke Scott (DL)
  • Rich Hill (DL) replaces Bob McCrory (minors) on the roster and Mark Hendrickson in the rotation

25-man Roster:

1B – Aubrey Huff (L)
2B – Brian Roberts (S)
SS – Cesar Izturis (S)
3B – Melvin Mora (R)
C – Gregg Zaun (S)
RF – Nick Markakis (L)
CF – Adam Jones (R)
LF – Felix Pie (L)
DH – Ty Wigginton (R)


R – Nolan Reimold (OF)
R – Luis Montanez (OF)
R – Robert Andino (IF)
R – Chad Moeller (C)


R – Jeremy Guthrie
R – Adam Eaton
L – Rich Hill
R – Koji Uehara
R – Brad Bergesen


L – George Sherrill
R – Danys Baez
R – Chris Ray
R – Jim Johnson
L – Jamie Walker
R – Brian Bass
L – Mark Hendrickson

15-day DL: OF – Luke Scott (strained shoulder), RHP – Alfredo Simon (elbow ligament), RHP – Dennis Sarfate (circulatory problems in bicep and shoulder),

Typical lineup:

S – Brian Roberts (2B)
R – Adam Jones (CF)
L – Nick Markakis (RF)
L – Aubrey Huff (1B)
R – Melvin Mora (3B)
R – Ty Wigginton (DH)
L – Felix Pie (LF)
S – Gregg Zaun (C)
S – Cesar Izturis (SS)

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1 The Hawk   ~  May 19, 2009 5:46 pm

This is sort of the final test as far as CC's resurgence, I think. For now, anyway. He seems like a guy who gets caught up in big moments and he still hasn't pitched well at home. If he can be dominant tonight, mmy confidence will be where I'd hoped it would be before the season. Till he faces the Sox or to a lesser extent the Rays, at least.

2 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 6:08 pm

I don't like to get ahead of myself, but this series could easily be a sweep. Normally, 2 of 3 is fine by me, but this is a good time to gain ground. Sox plays Toronto so we should gain on someone. TB is heating up.

3 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 6:42 pm

I'm not only looking forward to see if CC can hurl another quality start, but I would really like to see him throw one at home tonight.

That would be a good thing!

: )

4 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 6:56 pm

Hm, I'd like to see Bruney, but if we don't get to see him because CC goes CG, I won't squawk.

5 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 6:59 pm

[4] We'll see Veras and/or Ramirez. Because someone on this team hates me.

6 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 7:00 pm

I just realized Edwar went away.


7 Horace Clarke Era   ~  May 19, 2009 7:13 pm

OYF, I'll look in later but ... I never think about sweeps before a series starts, this sport just tends not to work that way! Even very bad teams win 40% of their games. Part of the math of the game I love ... great hitters get out almost 70% of the time, that sort of thing.

I'll take 2 of 3 and walk out smiling. A sweep means 9 straight and we'd be all over the news.

"What's in the Daily News? I'll tell you what's in the Daily News..."

(Just had to make a culture ref that goes back further than Star Wars!)

8 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:13 pm

Yeah, the reason he didn't get it: he's too fat. He didn't "let it go by".

9 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 7:14 pm

Kay's shrill voice is giving me a headache

10 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:16 pm

[5] strange that, you always have such nice things to say about them ...

11 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:18 pm

johnny always delivers the thrills out there in left field

12 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 7:21 pm

[6] maybe you are not as hated as you thought.

[11] yeah it really is an adventure. just the way he runs after balls with his glove extended is odd.

jeter looked fairly fast there.

13 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:22 pm

There's a notable advantage their pitcher has over ours.

14 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:22 pm

quote of the day, from Edwar:

“I’m surprised but I have to be better,” he said. “I’ll go back down and work.”


that's why i could never be a beat reporter, my next question would be, "Why? You give up a baserunner in every appearance and a run in every other ..."

15 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:23 pm

When *we* get a cheap hit, hey, it's just part of the game.

16 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:23 pm

[14] Edwar: Well, yes, cult, but you forget: Jose Veras really sucks.

17 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:25 pm

[12] the only other outfielders i've ever seen do that are either a) little leaguers or b) the average RF in coed softball.

it's very odd.

18 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:26 pm

Wow, how often do you see an OBP that's more than double the BA?

19 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 7:29 pm


20 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 7:29 pm

arod - damn that was a no no doubter

21 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 7:29 pm

Damn, I called that homer when the pitch was still 3/4 of the way to the plate

22 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:29 pm

Ha ha ha ha ha haah ahaha.

23 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:30 pm

[16] yes, but edwar has options, jose doesn't.

i wasn't surprised at all that edwar was the one left looking for a chair when the music stopped.

meanwhile, i don't think i'm ever gonna get tired of watching alex hit no doubt HRs at Yankee Stadium.

That was gone at the crack of the bat. Beautiful.

24 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:30 pm

Oh, man, I didn't realize until now that my mlb.tv feed is a little behind. Maybe a full minute, maybe thirty seconds.

25 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:31 pm

[23] Oh, I know. I was just giving Edwar something to say about why he was surprised. I wasn't surprised either.

26 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 7:31 pm

well the rust is off.

27 tocho   ~  May 19, 2009 7:33 pm

alex is either walking or hitting home runs. pretty selective.

28 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 7:34 pm

is this the new thing - to show every lame ass celebrity at yankee stadium to make it seem like the place to be? because this ain't a lakers game.

29 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:34 pm

[24] the HD feed is always slow. i usually have to go with the regular feed if i want to chatter at the same time without having everything spoiled for me by postings 'from the future.'

30 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 7:35 pm

[12] No, I still am hated. Pavano, Igawa, Betemit, Farnsworth

31 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 7:36 pm

[14] Seems we called that demotion, Cult!

Bottom line, when a "hitter" like Span beats you on your best pitch out of the park, "It will be time for you to leave."

Edwar "snatched the pebble"...

: )

32 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:37 pm

[27] His batting average is under .200, and his OPS is now 1.000 (I think --quick calculation from what it was just before the homer). That's an incredible discrepancy.

33 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:39 pm

[32] obviously, jogging around the bases is much less taxing on the hip than running around them!

34 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 7:40 pm

Nice pitch

35 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 7:41 pm

[32] I guess hitting one HR in every 7 ABs does that.

36 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 7:42 pm

CC gots tha command!

37 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:42 pm

[31] you're right, i should have said, "Why? You give up a baserunner in every appearance, a run every other and a homerun every third in [14]!

38 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:44 pm

ugh. the Stick is still sick.

39 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 7:44 pm

streaky swish could really needs a day off.

40 The Hawk   ~  May 19, 2009 7:45 pm

I think I like this post-steroid-admission A Rod.

41 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:46 pm

[38] Thank you, Dr. Seuss.

42 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:46 pm

[39] have to wait until Gritner is healthy enough to play the field and hit.

43 The Hawk   ~  May 19, 2009 7:48 pm

[32] One of the reasons OPS isn't the end-all-be-all stat it's sometimes made out to be.

44 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:51 pm

me likey CC.

gotta lead under his belt and he's starting to deal.

45 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 7:53 pm

[43] Au contraire, I think. It shows why BA is not a very good stat.

46 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 7:53 pm


47 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 7:53 pm


48 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 7:54 pm

cc is looking very tough

49 seamus   ~  May 19, 2009 8:10 pm

[22] was that homage to Flipper?

50 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 8:10 pm

I would thoroughly love it if this score stood up and CC got another CG!

51 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 8:13 pm

World Press crash?

I got back in...


52 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:15 pm

Yeah, the Banter got sick for a few minutes.

53 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 8:15 pm

[50] if this score stands up, i imagine we'll see his Moliness in the 9th.

54 tocho   ~  May 19, 2009 8:16 pm

this guy is pitching great. all his pitches are down and with movement, with control and command.

i heard somewhere that he sucks but not tonight.

55 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:18 pm

[54] Michael Kay assures us that the Yanks will hit over .400 off him for the rest of the game.

56 tocho   ~  May 19, 2009 8:19 pm

34 AB, 7 Hits of which 2 are singles and 5 HR, 10 RBI, 10 BB, 7K's.

He has "only" made 10 outs hitting the ball

57 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:21 pm

This isn't going to be a CG. Too many pitches.

58 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  May 19, 2009 8:22 pm

Wow, another homer for A-Rod? I feel so lucky that I can watch him and the Great Pujols at the same time, two of the greatest right-handed hitter to ever play the game. Really takes the edge off of all those Nick Punto ABs during the Twins series..

59 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 8:22 pm

yeah, surprised to see CC's at 70 pitches already.

60 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 8:23 pm

gamecast had ball 4 just about right in the heart of the strikezone. what the hey?

i need to catch up on this thread...

61 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:24 pm

[60] The pitch to Zaun?
I just looked at Gameday and it has that pitch way inside (which it was).

62 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 8:27 pm

nicely done, Carsten Charles!

63 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 8:27 pm

okay cc - good to get out of that and to get that pita brian roberts

64 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 8:28 pm

why has the god forsaken heineken commercial followed us to my9?!?

65 seamus   ~  May 19, 2009 8:29 pm

nice work CC! Definitely throwing a lot of pitches but still looking good.

66 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 8:30 pm

Unfair that batters cannot catch up to his fastball, and get so fooled on the changeup... and both deliveries are identical...


A couple of single digit pitched innings and he's back on track for a CG.

Remember, CC's 100 is 120...

: )

67 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:30 pm

Why is Brian Roberts a pita? Is that some kind of slur for a Middle-Eastern American?

68 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:32 pm

I think it's funny that since Michael Kay said (falsely) that the only ball hit in the air against Bergeson was the one that left the park, four out of five Yankee outs have been fly balls.

69 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 8:33 pm

[21] you're stepping on my lines! ; )

[61] thanks. i think i looked at it wrong. the 4th pitch of that sequence, was about dead red, but was called a ball...

we are being URP'ed!!!

70 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 8:33 pm

[67] pita = pain in the ass

71 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 8:34 pm

Michael Kay has Joe Buck status for me these days I'm afraid...

"Melky on his horse" earlier, was merely a trot.

: /

72 The Hawk   ~  May 19, 2009 8:34 pm

[45] Of course batting average is a good stat. So is OPS, but the problem with OPS is it combines two more or less separate things as if that somehow tells the whole story. You need more than one stat to tell the whole story, at least until someone figures out a combo stat a little more comprehensive than OPS.

73 tocho   ~  May 19, 2009 8:36 pm

Bergensen will have a CG if all they bat of him are lousy pop-ups and ground-outs

74 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:36 pm

I like how Tex is all, "No, CC, you just relax, I'll take this one myself."

75 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 8:38 pm

aw swish - made it interesting

[66] cc only 6 pitches that inning. he is listening.

76 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 8:42 pm

[75] : )

77 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 8:42 pm

[70] i like that.

maybe we need unknown rooks like cervix to hit this guy...

78 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 8:45 pm

Cervix is fast for a C, but not really fast. Bad play by Girardi.

79 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 8:45 pm

Well, it certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings if the Yankees tacked on such that this game is no longer a save situation.

80 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:45 pm

I hope that 'steal' was a missed hit-and-run, because that was one stupid steal attempt.

81 bartap   ~  May 19, 2009 8:56 pm

[64] I'm ashamed to admit I actually like the Heineken commercial, but I always get a little concerned when the guy starts driving with his eyes closed.

82 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 8:57 pm

[72] I agree, of course, that you need more than one stat to tell the whole story. Beyond that, I don't really understand what you mean.

83 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:06 pm

yeah, i wonder about the 8th too.

i'd rather Bruney got a chance to make his return in something other than a 1 run game ...

84 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:06 pm

I like having a dominant starter. Let's get a couple more of these next year.

85 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:07 pm

104 pitches ... what to do, what to do ...

zaun, andino, roberts due up.

86 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:08 pm

7 k's thru 7. VERY low WHIP. i say send CC out for the 8th to face 8, 9, 1. he's at 105 pitches.

87 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:09 pm

I'd bring him out for the ninth, and if a runner reaches, bring in Mo...

He's clearly not gassed at this pernt.

88 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:11 pm

i'm gonna agree with Nostralarmis here, go with CC.

if it's Bruney to start, *i* must, unfortunately, predict 'bad things' ...

89 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:12 pm

PJ, this is the seventh inning. We can't send out CC for the ninth until, you know, the ninth.

It's a close call, I could see it either way. He's not gassed, but I'm not comfortable having CC throwing 120 pitches every single game. We'll need him in Sept., and I hope in Oct.

90 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:12 pm

[87] well, let's get through the 8th, shall we?

91 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:13 pm

I agree.

I would rather Bruney not come in from a DL stint with a one run lead...

92 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:13 pm

[89] if it wasn't Bruney's 1st appearance since the injury (or he'd thrown more than 1 ok inning in AAA) i'd be more comfortable with Bruney here.

93 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:14 pm

I would discount the psych factor for Bruney, but that Coke video interview really made me understand how serious the psychological factor can be.

94 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:16 pm

[90] I'm just going by what I'm seeing Cult.

CC's five pitch arsenal when he's on like this > Bruney coming off a DL stint with a one run lead IMO...

If he's under 120 through eight, I still bring him out for the ninth, especially if they tack on here or in the eighth.

95 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:16 pm

you've gotta work hard to walk Cano on 4 pitches ...

96 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:16 pm

a 4-pitch walk for robbie! me likey. let's get this kid outta there and score some insurance runs.

97 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:17 pm

[93] Coke came in with a shaved head today. i wonder if it's to go for that tough looking reliever appearance?

98 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:18 pm

[89] Still so far, CC is really the only starter to give the pen a night off. I'm trying to think ahead like Girardi must for Joba's start tomorrow...

99 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:18 pm

Ortiz is 0 for 3 in his return, with a walk. But the knuckler is baffling the Jays so far. 2-1 Sox in the bottom of the eighth.

100 Just Fair   ~  May 19, 2009 9:18 pm

Let the big man pitch the 8th. Easy gas of 95 and still spotting the change-up. It's what he's getting paid for. Of course, score a couple here and tell him to go hang up his xxxxxxl jammy pants.

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101 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:20 pm

neyer has a "hughes to bullpen when wang comes back" post up at the 4-letter network...

102 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:20 pm

Man, Melk hit it a little too hard to get the run in.

103 Just Fair   ~  May 19, 2009 9:20 pm

Somewhere, a cold chill just went up Bobby Meacham's spine.

104 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:21 pm

fran-kie cer-vix clap, clap - clap, clap, clap

(that cervix/clap is, once again, on a tee for you, Cult!!!)

105 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:21 pm

That's what we call a BOOYA!

106 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:21 pm


107 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:21 pm

Oh, man, Itzuris would have had that.

108 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:21 pm

[103] hilarious!

109 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:22 pm

CC’s five pitch arsenal when he’s on like this > Bruney coming off a DL stint with a one run lead IMO…

uh, yeah, was there some confusion about that? everyone's agreed we'd go with CC here over Bruney's 1st appearance (barring a few more runs).

but i'm afraid don't see the point of leaving CC in to rack up 120-130+ pitches when you've got his Moliness in the pen.


gotta love luck!!! (though there was no way they were going to DP Cervix there)

110 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:22 pm

Andino took forever to realize he booted that.

111 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:23 pm

[107] still would have scored a run.

112 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:23 pm

i still have NO idea what happened. gamecast is frozen...

113 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:23 pm

Yeah, I don't like the idea of shifting Hughes to the bullpen. It messes with him.
I do think Hughes should take some of Joba's starts. In fact, I think Joba could be skipped this time. Again, thinking about the end of the season, Joba will reach his innings limit way before the end of Sept unless he gets skipped now and then.

114 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:23 pm

[112] run scoring error.

115 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:24 pm

[112] E6 on Cervelli's grounder, run scored, bases still loaded with one out for Jeter, 2-2 count... fouling off several pitches...

116 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

[101] no thanks. hughes needs innings, both to stretch out his innings cap AND to continue to work on his cutter, change and command.

117 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

[114] sweet. thanks. c'mon jetes. and let's go blow jays!

118 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

now THAT'S what we needed there!


119 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

Oh, thelarmis, you are going to wish you saw that one.
Base-clearing double for the Captain.

120 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

See? Now CC has insurance runs to play with...

I say if he's got 120 or less through eight, because he's been dealing tonight, he comes out for the ninth to try and get another CG in order to give the BP the night off.

Regardless, what a gem at home!

The O's have no idea what's coming, and that's simply great work by the battery.

: )

121 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

err, as Kay would say, "check that", THAT is a BOOOOOOYAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!

122 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:25 pm

nice hitting derek!

this bp talk may all be a "mute" point now

123 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:26 pm

That was a straight double, right?

124 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:26 pm

[119] hell fuckin' yeah!!! crap, REALLY wish i saw that. i'm going back/forth between braves-rox & cubs-cards...

125 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:27 pm

and bruney is up

126 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:27 pm

[123] It was a straight double, but one of the runs scores on an error. That is, without the error the scorer says it would have been 2nd and 3rd.

127 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:28 pm

Too bad the bases can't be loaded for ARod to face Ray - cuz you know it would result in a salami

128 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:28 pm


129 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:28 pm

Jeter advances to third on a WP, then Damon knocks him in with another hit. It's 7-1.

Oh, baby. Tex joins the party.

130 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:29 pm

[120] except NOW you have the perfect opportunity to get Bruney his 1st appearance in without having the game be on the line.

I couldn't care less about the complete game.

and now Bruney is up, I'd bring him in to start the 8th.

good game, CC, now hit the buffet!

131 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:29 pm

gamecast JUST updated the double. we should still send CC out and hope he gets a quick inning. at least 2 outs...

132 tommyl   ~  May 19, 2009 9:29 pm

Now this is how I envisioned the Yankees playing. Beautiful.

133 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:29 pm

[131] Tex hit a ball 800 miles.

134 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:29 pm

Um, Bruney can come in now or for the ninth...

heh heh

: )

135 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:29 pm


the yanks could actually bring in JOSE VERAS now (i think 8 runs is safe, but perhaps not)

136 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:30 pm

PJ, come on, no reason on earth for CC to throw another pitch. Ideal situation for Bruney.

CC hands off to BB.

137 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:30 pm

hell, is edwar available for mop-up time? i keed, i keed!!! ; )

138 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:30 pm

CCs gotta pitch until November. It's BB time.

139 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:30 pm

[135] Bring in Veras to set up a save for Mo.

140 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:31 pm

[133] nearly broke my window!

yes, Veras is safe now.

i like how this will help our run diff.

141 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:31 pm

Talk about baseball being a mental game? Has anyone seen a turnaround as drastic as Tex's? He's ARod Jr.

142 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:31 pm

[135] I know you're just saying that to bait mattpat, but it's too reminiscent of what we used to say about Farnsworth.

143 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:31 pm

[133] OMG, you weren't kidding!!! i didn't know he homered. fuckin-a!!! : )

144 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:32 pm

I don’t like to get ahead of myself, but this series could easily be a sweep.

145 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:32 pm

i like that Chris Ray kid. good pitcher! ; )

146 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:32 pm


just missed that one Alex!

147 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:32 pm

too bad - no meaningless hr for arod :}

148 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:33 pm

Sabathia 63 IP, 51 H 21 BB 44 K 3.43 ERA

149 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:33 pm

[142] Farnsworth couldn't mess up this lead

150 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:33 pm

[144] hoss is going to pop back in here in about 30 minutes and chastise you for that thought

151 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:34 pm

[136] See [134]

152 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:34 pm

[149] Yes he could

153 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:34 pm

The A's and Ray's scoreless through 8. Sox win 2-1.

154 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:35 pm

[152] Swisher could close out this game

155 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:35 pm

[147] lol

156 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:36 pm

i thoroughly enjoyed that half-inning, even though i couldn't see any of it and was 3 minutes behind real time.

157 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:37 pm

meanwhile, i know this our bullpen hasn't been great, but everyone should take a moment to look at how the National's bullpen has done this year and be thankful:

Meantime, here is where the Nationals' bullpen ranks in the majors this year in the following categories:

ERA: 30th (6.68). Mets are first, at 2.90.
Winning pct.: 30th, (.071, or 1-13). Marlins are first, at .692, or 9-4.
Save pct.: 30th, (31.6 pct, or 6-of-19). Reds are first, at 90.9 pct, or 10-of-11.
Walks allowed: 1st (77). Rockies are last, with 32.
K/BB Ratio: 30th (1.23). Rockies are first, at 2.75.
Opponents' OPS: 30th (.857). A's are first, at .630.

And finally, here are the worst bullpens in history, by ERA, according to Stats LLC:
1. 2009 Nationals, 6.68
2. 2009 Angels, 6.21
3. 2007 Devil Rays, 6.16
4. 1996 Tigers, 5.97
5. 1999 Mariners, 5.90

158 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:38 pm

[156] The Jeter double was the best part for me, by far. The Swisher blast was awesome, but Jeter really struggled tonight, and in any case there's something extremely pleasing about a 3-rbi-double. It seems like the epitome of something or other.

159 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:38 pm

[153] I have a feeling the Blue Jays will be largely irrelevant by the time they head to Philly on June 16. Red Sox, Angels, Phillies Rangers coming up.

160 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:39 pm

[154] I'd take him over Farnsworth

161 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:39 pm

that's crazy if that is what caused bruney's injury. i remmeber that delay though and it really did take a long time.

162 Just Fair   ~  May 19, 2009 9:40 pm

I look forward to hearing how Edwar is dominating AAA hitters for SWB. Maybe he can learn a 3rd pitch while he's down there. Seriously.

163 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:41 pm

Bruney looks completely hairless and, dare I say, thin(ish)... Looking good.

164 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:41 pm

With the April rust off Mo, BB healthy, Marte back and Melancon up later in the year, our BP should be decent, if not above average.

165 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:41 pm

[162] I have no desire to ever see Edwar again.

166 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:41 pm

Bruney's throwing the heater 94-5. Slider looks very good, that's the key.
Good to have him back, for sure.

167 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:42 pm

nice pitch bruney

[162] edwar might actually benefit from aaa if they don't just let him throw the changeup

168 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:42 pm

[164] Aceves. He's going to contribute. And Coke, as long as he's used right...

169 Horace Clarke Era   ~  May 19, 2009 9:42 pm

Ol' Hoss checks in ... I have a bottle of Cragganmore to pass around this time. Got a laugh out of 'Swisher could close this one out' but my answer to OYF's asking if any turnaround has been as dramatic as Teixeira's ... well, yeah, Swisher's from April to May!

Tex utterly SMOTE that ball. My, my. I think, as I said yesterday, that our #3 and #4 are going to move right up to the top of the charts in 'scaring pitchers' land. We all hoped for this in March, and it is starting to come together.

Will also say, sadly, that Baltimore's D was embarrassingly sloppy in that 7th. Two errors, wild pitch, gopher ball... I'd be tearing my hair if I were an O's fan, after that kid gave them 6+ superb innings (greater sinker).

170 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:44 pm

Lotsa swinging strikes. Welcome back Brian

171 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:44 pm

[158] Jeter is my favorite player and i totally understand what you mean by a bases clearing double, so i'll take that as my fave part of the inning, too!

i also loved BB's return. nice, tidy, quick 1-2-3 with one real test in there in Roberts.

172 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 9:44 pm

[162] He won't return without it...

173 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:45 pm

[162] he has a 3rd pitch, it's a slider. what he needs is fastball command. given his slinging throwing motion, i've kinda come around to the idea that he probably won't ever have it.

174 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:45 pm

[167] I'm like 75 percent sure that Gerald Williams and BJ Surhoff are still floating around AAA. I really don't care what Edwar's numbers are in AAA. I don't want him to come back.

175 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:46 pm

[174] an ICE reference! nice.

176 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:47 pm

I understand Igawa is doing extremely well. Maybe we should give him a try -- long relief, you know.

177 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  May 19, 2009 9:47 pm

WTF??? 2-1 when I left, now 9-1!!! Yayyyy! No constructive comments to share, just....YayYYYYYY!!

178 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:47 pm

Has Chris Ray now entered the "Arther Rhodes class of Yankee punching-bags"?

179 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:48 pm

[177] It was very, very gratifying. Just cue up the seventh inning when the game gets to the archives.

Oh, man, Adam Jones. He's the Carlos Beltran of the next decade.

180 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:49 pm

[179] so Steve Phillips will be bitching about him in 2019?

181 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:49 pm

[176] I see what you're doing there.

182 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:50 pm

sweet. i don't mind a Tomko sighting when up 9-1.

183 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 9:50 pm

[180] If Steve Philips is still on the tube in 2019 shoot us all

184 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:52 pm

[181] I'm transparent, huh? Yeah, you caught me.

[180] touche; [183] I'll sign up for that too.

185 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:52 pm

Maybe Tomko can give up 5 runs and then sit next to Edwar on the bus?

186 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:52 pm

This is why God invented Brett Tomko.

187 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:53 pm

[178] well, let's hope we can face him the next 2 days and make the Rhodes call then... : )

[179] man, i love Carlos Beltran. i can't WAIT til he joins the 300-300 club!!! soon... i've got a buddy who a Seattle fan. poor guy, having to watch Adam Jones as an Oreo. all for Bedard...

[182] oh yeah, Tikki Tikki Tomko. i'm cool with this.

188 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 9:53 pm

we get a berroa sighting too

189 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:54 pm

Think where the Giants pitching would be if not for one VERY bad trade.

190 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:54 pm

I understand Joe Morgan fiercely defended Beltran -- anyone actually see that Phillips tirade? I mean, how low do you rank on the ladder of baseball analysts when you're on the wrong side of a debate with Joe Morgan?

191 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:54 pm

looks like D-Train had a nice comeback to the Tiggers tonight. good for him.

192 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:55 pm

Why exactly are we afraid of losing Jose Veras?

193 Just Fair   ~  May 19, 2009 9:55 pm

DId you hear the one about Igawa, Lyle Overbay, Farsnworth and Edwar walking into Mattpatt's Bar? : )

194 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:56 pm

[191] good for baseball, too!

195 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:56 pm

i hope to catch some highlights on BBTN, if it's on in a few minutes...

todd helton got his 2,000th hit tonight. jason kendall did that yesterday...

196 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:56 pm

Okay, Hoss, I'll take about three ounces of that Cragganmore now, please...

197 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:56 pm

[192] because people forget he's sucked on ice since mid-last year ...

198 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:57 pm

[190] I saw it. It was about what you'd think.

199 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 9:57 pm

7 straight, baby.

200 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 9:58 pm

crap, it's on now. maybe i missed it. hopefully they'll sure more once the game is actually over. tomko doing fine against the heart of the order.

kruk and vina = ugh.

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201 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 9:58 pm

[198] Ah. So you slapped your forehead at least six times?

202 Just Fair   ~  May 19, 2009 9:58 pm

A week's worth of wins. I'll drink to that. : D

203 Mattpat11   ~  May 19, 2009 9:58 pm

[193] I'd like to see Pavano walk into a bar too.

204 OldYanksFan   ~  May 19, 2009 9:58 pm

[190} I heard it. Actually Phillips and Morgan were disagreeing on many issues. It seemed uncomfortable in the both. I mean.... when Phillips and Morgan argue, who do you root for?

205 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 10:00 pm

We're streaking!

206 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 10:01 pm

[204] Hmmm. A deep question. I guess I'd keep wondering, "Is there any way they could both be wrong?"

Cute interview of Cervelli by Suzyn. "Every day I just want to come in and ween and lorn."

207 PJ   ~  May 19, 2009 10:01 pm

[202] Me too JF! Another great win!

Have a great evening everyone!

: )

208 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 10:01 pm

[202] please have 1 for me! next beer = thursday night.

209 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 10:01 pm

kruk and vina = ugh.

vina's bad, but he's no Eric Young.

that man's a wormhole into the dimension of dumb.

210 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 19, 2009 10:01 pm

[204] You root for both to get so frustrated the quit their jobs, never to be seen or heard from again

211 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 10:02 pm

run differential is down to -5. can't wait til we're on the plus side...

212 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  May 19, 2009 10:02 pm

anyone know ehere i can see/hear that Phillips & Morgan duet? I'm a glutton for bad announcing!

213 ms october   ~  May 19, 2009 10:03 pm

phillips is worse than morgan to me.

nice streak going.

214 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 10:03 pm

[209] i know there's nothing he can do about it, but i can't stand his voice, either. souvenir city = double plus ungood.

215 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 10:04 pm

trying to keep up w/ MLB Network, BBTN has Dave Winfield on the show sometimes now. that's kinda cool. i actually like Karl Ravech (most of the time). i like when he gives Joe Morgan a tough time on Sun Night Baseball. joe always dodges the tough ?'s. i miss FJM...

216 cult of basebaal   ~  May 19, 2009 10:05 pm

[214] Ah yes, 'souvenir city', that's the horrible phrase he uses. I remembered he had one, but I couldn't recall it specifically, since I haven't watched BBTN in over a year.

217 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 10:06 pm

[213] Me too.
In fact, I'd say Phillips is in a class by himself. Morgan doesn't make me want to hit him, not even a little. He just makes me slap my forehead. Morgan is just a dope; Phillips is a dope and a douche bag.

218 RIYank   ~  May 19, 2009 10:07 pm

Okay, my whiskey is all down the hatch.
Excellent game. Let's beat up on the Baltimore bullpen again tomorrow.

219 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  May 19, 2009 10:09 pm

[217] Agreed! Phillips did thos efake news conferences awhile back for espn..had to be the stupidest idea ina looong time. He's also a charter member of the "a" club. As in.."If they get a Texiera or a Jeter on their team.."..that's like fingernails on a chalkboard for me

220 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 10:12 pm

ooh, i just saw the highlights of the game. wahoo! everyone looked great, i love it! Tex's moonshot was ridiculous. man, that must feel good to connect like that...

221 thelarmis   ~  May 19, 2009 10:12 pm

[219] Vina, just called him "The Jeter". i thought you should know...

222 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  May 19, 2009 10:22 pm

[221] Fireable infraction

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