Enough mincing around, AJ Burnett needs a win.
Which is good timing, cause it’d sure be nice to see the Yanks win this series and stay on the good foot.
Cut and Paste from Pete Abe:
Melky Cabrera: He had an MRI and will be sent back to New York tomorrow to be examined by team doctor Chris Ahmad. The initial diagnosis is that he will be out 5-7 days. If it’s more than that, they will probably DL him and call up an infielder.
Meanwhile — get this — Ramiro Pena was taking balls in the outfield today. Once again we ask: Why is Angel Berroa still on the roster?
I say: WTF? He barely hits enough to play SS. Outfield???
Brian Bruney: Dr. James Andrews checked him out and he came up clean. No ligament issue. He has a flexor muscle strain and whatever pain he still has is a residual of that. He will rest and start a throwing program. Because Bruney fibbed about how he felt last time, you can bet he’ll out at least another 2-3 weeks at least.
All in all, I guess the news on Melkdud and BB is pretty decent.
 That's big news on both fronts. Bruney actually coming back - I assumed he was done for - makes the bullpen a damn sight better. I hope.
  Duh
Similar to what Pete Abe said about Swisher last night, its time for AJ to stop worrying about whip cream and become an 82 million dollar pitcher
Derek is hitting the ball much harder
I want some general idea of what those photos of Cashman are, that Berroa has. Are they pix of him & Madonna?
I think Holland is wearing a foundation.
I think the kid deserved that He seems cocky to me.
 So true.
Hello? Anyone? Bueller?
Lefties seem to have a problem with this guy.
Righties seem to see him better so far
 Wouldn't this have been a perfect game for Berroa then?
 No one here but us crickets. Chirp chirp
 No such thing.
i know teixeira is great from both sides, but he's such a monster from the right i wonder if he should just stick with that.
why is cash starting as much as cervelli now?
Something went awry there
 Interesting that he has more homeruns batting lefty
Strangely inept tag from Jeter
flash is saying jeter took the throw too far in front of the base, which is what i thought initially, but the replay shows that the ball was clearly about to hit the ground. not a great throw, though better than what we've seen from cash so far.
 How many in Yankee Stadium though? That might explain it.
 he has 3x as many pas as a lefty. check out his other splits.
 cbs.sportsline doesn't have that way - breakdown at home and batting lefty/righty. I just see he has 10 HRs at home. But, I think you make a great point and probably that's the reason why.
only real difference in career stats is that his ba is .311 as a righty, .279 lefty
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I want to see Boston lose tonight for more than the usual reasons, because I love seeing the smug look wiped off the face of Matsuzaka.
 i thought he has basically a blank look always
 II think Cash catches 2 pitchers, Cervix 3. In 162 PA for Boston last year, Cash posted a .647 OPS. That's actually great for a 3rd string catcher. We should only get that from Molina. So while I prefer Cervix, I can understand Girardi not wanting Cash to rust on the bench.
It looked like Gardner's bottom half actually moved on that strike three swing. Progress?
 I'd like to see Boston lost 5 out of 7 days.
Thank you, thank you.
Wow, a Kevin Cash hit, a double. I'm not sure I've seen that creature before.
I like it a LOT better when Jeter turns on inside pitches. There are times he looks like he ONLY wants to hit to RF.
Cash had 3 hits the other day including a double.
SIGN HIM TO A 6 YEAR DEAL!
Dude has to be dyeing that stache
He went around on that? No replay???
 Quiet! Cashman might hear you.
Boy, you guys aren't kidding about lefties vs righties against Holland. Are we actually 4 for 5 among the righties, and 0-fer for all the lefties? And the four hits include a homer and two doubles.
Good evening folks .... just walked in ....
That's not Al Holland on the mound, is it?
  Racists!
 I think it's his grandson.
Hm, just read that Manny is still on the all star ballot. MLB needs to correct that, at least going forward.
 Why? I'd love to see him on the All Star team, that would be awesome.
Man, Burnett is pitching like Burnett
Oh come on, AJ. The dude is hitting .226.
 During the year he's sitting 50 games for trying to get pregnant?
 Until its determined that Cash has officially TURNED THE CORNER I think we're safe
 I think people are too quick to dismiss that possibility. It is Manny Ramirez.
flash should be a manager.
 No problem by me. For one thing, some of my best friends have been pregnant.
Salty & Pepa .... ah .... push bunt ... ah ... push bunt
Amazing that they fit Salty's name on that jersey.
Phil Hughes is available as a FA in one of my leagues, dare I make a bid on him folks?
Yes sir, that was strike three, Mr. Saltalamac....
Is there some kind of tinyurl we can use for his name?
 Will you owning automatically him turn him into Nate Robertson?
 So was my mom, doesn't mean she should be on the All Star team. I think it would say a lot about Dodger fans. Plus it would be interesting to read sports writers who've been all over A-Rod, but seem to give Manny a pass.
Mike Maddux has Frank Zappa beard going on.
 I'm just saying that having been pregnant should not prevent your mom from being on the All Star team. You know, assuming she's otherwise qualified, and the fans just love her.
When Andrus goes yard, I have a feeling Chris Berman says "Elvis has left the building"
 I voted for her. 25 times.
they come back to commercial with the camera on an empty entryway and i'm wondering what we're supposed to be looking at, then a cute girl steps out from the corner. obviously!
 I haven't seen people giving Manny a pass, just cause they don't report on him the same way as A-Rod then that's because Manny isn't viewed the same in the mainstream. I think A-Rod wanted it that way, to go beyond the baseball diamond. He marketed himself that way, the media was more than willing to return in kind.
It's no different than the press that Tom Brady would get if he were found to have taken a steroid.
 True, unless she violated MLB's PED policy that year. Plus she only hit .231 in ten games before the ASB.
man, AJ's 95 mph heat looks just soooo easy coming out of his hand.
The Texas crowd gets unduly excited by ordinary fly balls.
I wonder if they are all Sterlings?
man, Nolan Ryan's drawl is soooo thick. i'll take the NY accent, thanks.
 I'm gonna cut her some slack. Everyone's entitled to a second chance.
nice inning! i gotta cut out for a bit. hopefully i'll catch the end of the game and be happy about how it's going! see you all in a little while...
I love watching the Yankees when they are very obviously reading cue cards during commercials
 Me too. Mythbusters are using thermite.
Righties now 6 for 8 plus a walk. Lefties still 0-fer.
Tie game ijn Minny
 Painful to listen to..heard him interviewd on the Baseball Today podcast, guess I had never heard a real authentic Tejan accent before, was hard to follow.
 Not for long, though.
Not anymore. 2-1 with a runner on second and Fake n Bake up.
The Arlington crowd once again very excited by a fly out.
 The problem is how easy it's looked going out of the yard.
That was nice, but I'm afraid we might need three relief innings tonight. Better score four more runs.
Yeah, I thought that was a balk.
has anyone ever been to Arlington? Because I've always felt that on TV it doesn't come off as THAT small
Jeter is going to be the Yankee alltime hits leader this year. Amazing
arod basically never runs without watching the ball for a second
Come on, Rob, break the lefty curse. Take it to left field...
They should have sent him home. 2 outs, three run lead - hell with it, send 'em!
Wow... ARod doesn't really wind up his swing, but he hits some bullets.
Cubs Big Z let loose on the ump today..loooong suspension coming for that one
 Told you.
Minny up 3-1 on the Sox, after 4.
 Right, but the fourth isn't over yet (Dice-K just walked Mauer).
He did the splits
i'd like to see one more replay of the play at 1b. it was closer than i first thought.
Looks like Burnett chews tobaccy. And Swisher and ... Melky? Who else.
now that's a nice tag
Toronto up 8-3 after 7, but gives up FIVE run in the 8th. The game goes to extras, 8-8. Toronto scores 2 in the 11th, looking for the win. The O's get a walk off salami. 12-10. Blue Jays, Toilet. Toilet, Blue Jays.
Dice-K with a 2.5 WHIP through 4.
 It was really close, but no matter. Terrific throw by cash.
So now AJ walks Kinsler, jeez. Come on, AJ! Attack!
that was the most annoying popup ad i've ever seen on tv. what are they thinking doing that during a baseball game (or ever)?? not only a distraction right over the screen, but a horrible glug-glug noise to go with it. (it was for listerine)
The only problem is that AJ has only an inning left, at 93 pitches. We'll need some kind of decent relief...
AJ at 92 pitches. One more inning (hopefully a full inning).
Oh, we needed that!
The lefty curse is broken.
ahhh the days of the ALDS being a gimme...
BTW, Jeter is now 129 hits away from Lou and (obviously) 130 away from being the Yankees all time hits leader.
Tater for Godzilla??? His is swing finally coming back?? ホームラン松井！！！
("Home Run Ma-tsu-ii" was the chant when he was with the Yomiuri Giants)
3-17 by URPS? Huh.
Man... Gardy could bat .400 if he learned to do that regularly.
The scrappy, hustling Gardner.
He was once clocked at 3.5 seconds to 1B on a bunt. Lefty bunters are the fastest, but still...that's fast.
That really is amazing. I can't remember the last Yankee who could do that. Murcer?
By "that" I just mean beat out a drag bunt, not the exact time thing.
I feel like Burnett should be able to 7 regularly, but maybe not.
 homer bush?
I asked this question last night, and never really got an answer. Was Jason Jennings always a satchelass?
Cash swings at Ball 4.
SIGN THAT MAN TO A 6 YEAR DEAL!
You can't stop Kevin Cash. You can only hope to contain him.
nice to finally make Jason Jennings look like post 2002 Jason Jennings
Okay after that aside about Cash and Burnett, Cash is my favorite Yankee.
 maybe not, he only hit righty
 I seem to recall Bubba Crosby doing it. That walkoff homer game...he also had two other hits in that game. At least one of which was a bunt single down the first base line.
Bubba Crosby, that's right. Could be.
 I don't really remember Bubba doing anything well, to be honest with you
On base 4 times. Season's really turning around for him.
That's being snake-bit.
I love that there's a human being on earth named Warner Madrigal
 The thing where Cash walked out to the mound, played around, didn't say anything, walked back? AJ was dumbfounded.
Damn. Not his night
Oh, good, bullpen roulette for the Rangers!
 That was pretty funny.
Hm, two runs, but I would have liked a couple more.
Well, one more shut-out inning for AJ and he'll have earned pie.
Boy... if I didn't know better, I'd swear the ESPN guys are rooting for the Rangers. Hoss? You there Dude?
Youk just tightened up that game in Minnesota.
good lord get our outfielders out of Texas as soon as possible
Careful John, we're a little short of OFs these days.
That's kind of touching, that AJ was so worried-looking. Seriously.
Andruw Jones? Wow. I missed that. Putting up decent numbers.
That looked like it could have been bad, if he hadn't hit the net instead of the wall. Really awkward collision.
My mom just won four Yankees-Os tickets for 9/11 and two tickets to the US Open
Oh, my mistake. It was Bay who got the solo homer in Minnesota. Youk struck out, Ortiz has flied out, two down in the sixth.
did anyone for a second think AJ Burnett would end up being this likable? I'm not talking about performance-wise, I'm just talking about as a guy on the team.
 Wow! Both great. Have you been to the Open? I've been twice, and those rank among the best sports events I've ever been to.
 Like has been alluded to, Cash walked out to the mound to talk to Burnett, but didn't say anything, and instead picked up the rosin bag then just threw it back down. Burnett had a really funny look on his face.
they try real hard to enforce that rule huh
 I've never been, and truth be told, I have little interest in golf, but I'll just enjoy the day out.
 I think he was worried the ball was going out.
I love Chris Davis.
 Oh, *that* US Open! I thought you meant tennis.
 That's what I thought the first time they showed his face, but the timing was wrong. He got the 'o shit' look after Damon hit the screen.
 yeah was definitely worried about damon
 I kind of had a feeling you did. Apparently they came with a golf bag, so I'm just assuming its the event at Bethpage in a couple weeks.
Either way, I'm sure I'll enjoy myself.
Well, folks, one more run and I trust our bullpen to hold the lead. Otherwise, I say let Burnett start the seventh even though he's thrown 118.
 i'm not a golf fan in any way but i went there last time it was in bethpage and it was kind of cool
There's Robinson. I've been waiting for him to show up.
Oh no way!
Where's OK Jazz with some of those kenji??
Any soccer fans out there? Anyone catch Messi's goal for Barcelona in the Champions League Final? Ridiculous shot..
From Gamecast this hasn't been the most exciting game to follow, but am sure I will enjoy watching AJ put up zeros on the replay this evening.
 Bad timing on my "not exciting game" comment! GO GO 松井！よく出来ました！！ '(Great job!)
I had to follow the game on the net at work, sounded like Barcelona really dominated. Was Xavi man of the match?
(I meant KANJI -- I forgot the word.)
Uhhh, where the f*** is Chien-Ming Wang? Do the Yanks have any interest in figuring out whether their two-time 19 game winner is viable, and how best to use him if so?
Daisuke only lasted five innings, very inefficient though he didn't ever explode. Manny Del Carmen loaded the bases and now Justin Masterson has hit Cuddyer to force in a free run. The vaunted Boston bullpen.
 Not sure but the recap said he was controlling the whole game. Couldn't watch it as was too early in the morning.
I like that name better
4-2 Minny BTW
Jose. Eight run lead. Throw. Strikes.
There's something reassuring knowing that even on a night when it looks like the Yankees can take a share of first and shake off their awful start, Jose Veras still sucks.
Seriously. 8 run lead, three innings to go. Why in god's name are they not using Wang here?
That second Matsui homer is looking good now.
 i thought the idea was that he would normally be used as a long man. so the questions may have been more apt yesterday.
How many injuries have we had so far this year? Like eight? And not one of them has been to Jose Veras or Angel Berroa. Now that's just rotten luck.
Sox done in the 7th. 4-2 Minny.
 Pete Abe has a post about Wang.
IMO, he's right - the Yanks really haven't treated Wang very well. He's never caused them any trouble. No rumors of late night partying or slacking about Wang. But they went to arbitration over $600,000. Given the money they wasted on Igawa and Pavano, it seems rather mean to be so chinsy with Wang. Heck, they even gave Melky pretty much what he wanted. But they took Wang to the mat.
Wang pitched so well for the Yanks for so long. I think he needs to get back into the rotation somehow. He says he'd rather pitch in the minors than from the pen in the Bronx, but they can't send him down because he's out of options.
There are many who think the Yankees are doing wrong by Chien-Ming Wang by calling him up and making him sit in the bullpen with no clearly defined role, like 19 game winner. But these individuals have it all wrong. While sitting in the bullpen Wang gets to do his taxes, work on his English, think of baby names, catch up on all the classics, practice his magic tricks, and contemplate the deeper questions facing the human condition. So sure, point out the obvious. Wang is a pitcher, a good one at that, and his talent is being wasted. But he's growing as a human being. Isn't that what this is all about. If it's between pitching every five days and reading Immanuel Kant, I'm sticking with Kant, and I think Wang would agree. So please, don't make him the victim. We should count ourselves as fortunate.
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 Well, he needs to pitch. I don't think they can wait around for an early exit, and three innings is pretty good.
Good, now another walk or two and Alex can pad his RBI stats.
I have to think their reluctance to use Wang means they are debating his role. If he's going to be used as a reliever, surely they'd have used him yesterday or today.
So...maybe they are thinking of making Wang a starter again, and sending Joba or Hughes to the pen?
 It's absolutely true.
 The way Hughes pitched two days ago, it's hard to believe he's going to the bullpen.
 They should have figured out how to do this without bring him up. He needs to pitch, for god's sake. He's just sitting around.
Oh wait they're now gonna bring him in for one inning???
But I agree, why not bring him in right away (to start the seventh) and give him three innings? Strange.
I sure hope that when the young players in the Rangers clubhouse look at Vizquel and Guardado they realize they're looking at one of the best late inning matchups of 1994
 Two innings, I presume.
Between me and y'all, the solution is Joba to the pen.
Five times on base for Derek Jeter
 Right-o - I lost track. Still, bizarre.
Well, Wang's warming.
But jeez, why today and not yesterday? Is he going to be the backup closer, rather than the long man?
Wang is the new closer!
Sox out in the 8th. 3 outs to go. 4-2 Minny.
They're trying to see if they mess around with Wang long enough, they can injure his arm like Chamberlain's last year.
That's my Wanger.
 That was the key batter: Bay with a man on. When he GIDP, I thought, "that's the ball game." Now it's Papi, Lowell, and two backup players for the ninth.
[188} I wouldn't mind seeing Joba go back to the pen, at least for now. He's been rather Jaret Wright-like so far. Wang has a good track record as a starter. Heck, he was the Yanks' ace for a couple of years. He's earned a spot in the rotation.
(oh.... family blog)
 wait but aren't you proposing to mess around with joba some more?
 I was being obscure and referring to another post in another thread.
But still, they have to mess around with someone, right? 5 spots, 6 starters. If someone goes to the pen, put the guy in the pen that excels there.
When someone gets injured, then Wang is back in the rotation. Why force the issue?
I don't know how he stacks up to Guidrey, but I think Joba will be the best pitcher the Yankees have developed in 40+ years. They are not going to screw with him. If Wang is good and ready to start, if Phil has options left, I imagine he goes down.
Can you move Phil to the BP? I honestly don't know if that is screwing around with him. He needs 170 IP one way or the other.
 No, you can't put Hughes in the bullpen.
Goddam it, MLB.tv went out for that Cano blast! I did see the replay.
 while it seems obvious that putting him back in the bullpen is the best thing for this season (assuming they can't trade for a legitimate reliever), i think he deserves patience as a starter. he has shown flashes of being a dominant starter, and he's still only 23. he did excel in the bullpen, but i still think he can excel in the rotation, and i don't think he's gonna go back to starting if we put him in the bullpen now.
Does anyone know if Hughes has options left?
 Who knows when someone's gonna get injured? It could be a month or more. Meanwhile Wang is pitching 2 innings every 5 days. No bueno.
It just seems perverse to me to keep Wang on ice, or send Hughes down. If everyone is capable of pitching decently, those two should be starting and Joba in the pen - for now. It's not about how mediocre he's been as a starter, but how much of a boost he would give the bullpen.
Big Papi pops up to start the ninth. Nathan seems a little wild.
They probably should send Hughes down. Looks like he does have options left.
I'm not sure why they don't.
Frankly, I'm dreading Sunday's game, when Hughes faces Pavano. I don't want to lose to Glass Ass.
 I don't have a problem with him being in the rotation, and learning and developing, etc. But in this context, he could fill a greater need. What he does for the rotation can be replaced by Hughes. What he does for the bullpen can't be replaced. Maybe Bruney but there are a lot of question marks around him right now.
I don't see why Joba to the pen now would preclude him becoming a starter again. If that were true I wouldn't put him in there, but I don't know what you're basing that idea on so I'm not sure.
 They aren't sending him down because he's pitching very well.
We'll murder Pavano. I'm not concerned.
 Makes sense in the short term, especially since Joba has an innings cap this season, but I really don't like seeing someone leaving the rotation unless they've clearly pitched their way out of it.
Joba hasn't been great, but he's the future, right?
 My understanding is it's not a finite amount of options but a finite amount of years you can be optioned in. I'm pretty certain Hughes isn't at that threshold yet whatever it is.
I think it's a waste to send Hughes back down. He's got nothing more to learn in the minors, he needs to figure out how to pitch with the big boys consistently.
 i'm basing it on the fact that people like you will argue that he's irreplaceable in the bullpen, and the likelihood that the yankee front office is tempted to agree.
i don't agree that what he does for the rotation can be replaced by hughes. perhaps what he has done so far could be replaced by hughes (although hughes hasn't pitched as well as joba so far), but i expect joba to heat up as the season progresses.
So, we're still searching for the thing that Angel Berroa does well. In baseball, I mean.
 It's both -- there's a certain number of options and a certain number of years. If you run out of either one you can no longer be optioned but have to pass through waivers.
 He might be the future, I'd like him to be the future, but right now they have three starters for two spots. One is an experienced two-time 19 game winner, the other two are promising but inconsistent youngsters, both of whom need regular ML work, but one of which is a dominant reliever as well. And ... the Yanks' bullpen needs help.
As long as Wang can get right, it's the simplest, best solution for 2009.
personally i would prefer a 6 man rotation until we figure out who is most valuable where. i'd be more inclined to put phil in the bullpen than joba, since i think joba is better and has more pitches. but phil looked so good on monday that i'm not sure i want either of them in the bullpen.
wang lookin' good! ERA at 21.09!!!
 I'm starting to think that's the best solution.
I have a feeling Pettitte won't like breaking the routine of 5 days. But none of the solutions is without a cost.
 He is irreplaceable in the bullpen but his value as a proportionally effective starter is greater, so they won't leave him as a reliever unless maybe Mariano goes south. Plus I'm really only arguing he's irreplaceable this year but really - everyone must remember his stint in late '07. It was legendary, he became an overnight folk hero and deservedly so. His impact as a starter right now doesn't compare.
Wang looking like the old Wang.
I miss him.
 Agree to disagree, I guess. And depth is a nice problem to have.
But I think everyone's happy that Wang looks strong tonight, in any case.
Joba has VERY liitle actual time Pitching... and I mean in his entire life. He started pitching very late. And, we know he has not pitched well. Yet, he has an ERA just under 4.00.. so he is our 2nd best starter.
Joba is the future AND the present. If he stays healthy, he will only get better. I love Phil, but Joba has much better raw stuff.. and is also very mature considering how little experience he has.
Yay, clean Wang.
So, pie for AJ??
 I just don't think that's gonna wash with this staff. I don't think it's worth risking upsetting the applecart upon which sit the other three veterans.
Wang's ERA still in the 20's - 20.45. baby steps...
Ladies and Gents, First Place.
 so you would be more inclined to let him be a starter if he hadn't been so good when he broke in? the logic doesn't make sense. he's a starter who broke in as a ridiculously dominant reliever. so now we should punish him and the team because of how good he was then? he could be an ace starter, and he's not going to get there any quicker by putting him back in the bullpen. if after he's been given a fair amount of starts to prove his worth (at least a full season) he is clearly more valuable in the bullpen, then we'll put him back.
 You can't just count ERA when judging starters. For instance, Joba's inability to consistently get through the sixth inning is a significant drawback. Having Hughes and Chamberlain in there going 5 innings three times a week is going to explode this bullpen and this team.
That's how it's looking right now - I hope they all prove me wrong!
 Do you think it really retards his progress if he goes to the bullpen for a month? I'm afraid it does. I'm wishing it wouldn't. If it wouldn't make any difference to Joba in the long run, that would be the best way to go. But I agree that nothing this season is worth risking the long term progress of our ace-in-the-making.
 i agree that if it could be done with no lasting effects the clear option is to put him in the bullpen this year (although he has been at least the 3rd best starter so far). but i think at the very least it doesn't help his progress, and that there's a good chance it hurts it, either physically or mentally.
I don't care how you do it. Wang needs to be starting. He is a starting pitcher and he is a dominant one. Yes, he was really really off to start the season but if he is back on track he is money and more proven than Burnett, Hughes or Joba. 6-man rotation could work. I don't think they'll do that though.
This is what they mean by a problem they like to have.
The Hughes and Joba debate needs to be centered around the fact that each one CAN'T remain in the rotation for the entire year because of their innings limits. Also, I am not sure why so many people view the hybrid reliever/starter role as being detrimental to each's development. I actually think the opposite is true...such a role would not only allow Joba and Hughes to manage their innings limit, but could allow them to develop into the future starters we hope they'll all become.
 First of all, I was just backing up and saying that though I mean irreplaceable now, there was a historical precedent as well. He was once something special. Right now he's not.
Otherwise, you're making it too much about Joba. This is about the team and who fits where best at this juncture. I never said he shouldn't be a starter. And where did this punishment angle come from? Bizarre.
I guess the question is DOES moving to the BP hurt/retard a pitchers development? Is there some documentation on this issue?
 Yeah, I agree. Using just ERA is misleading. Length counts, too, and Wang has been pretty reliable there.
Seems like we went through this with Jaret Wright. He just couldn't go longer than five innings or so, and it just killed the pen.
Hm. Given the innings limits on the two young 'uns, and the large number of innings that CC has already thrown, I'm inclined toward some strategy that lets all six starters share the innings. Whether that's a six-man rotation, a starter/reliever role for Hughes and Chamberlain, or some other idea, it seems like that's what will work out best.
Excellent win tonight. Posada's coming soon! First place! All good.
 woop! totally forgot to celebrate first place! haha damn Wang debate...
So, is the pulse that Cervelli stays? I'm pretty excited about his upside even though I'm 100% confident he has been hitting over his head.
 Earl Weaver broke in just about every young starter in a hybrid role. More recently, Johan Santana and Chad Billingsley broke in the same way. There are a lot of example out there.
 I think this is also key. Wang is the bird in the hand here ... *ahem*
Holy crap, that Blue Jays game is just depressing to consider. Poor bastards.
First...Place...I like the sound of that!
 I think we should probably carry three catchers. Perhaps until Jorgie rides out of town, or moves to 1B. The man is 37, and coming back from his second shoulder surgery. I fear he's going to struggle to stay healthy.
 joba is their best young player. in a lot of ways, joba is the most important player on the team. while you can't always just worry about the future, in his case i think it's a valid consideration. i don't think it's the only consideration, but i think it's enough to tilt the outcome towards the rotation. it's clear that he wants to start. it's also undeniably true that an ace starter is more valuable than an ace reliever. i think that joba has done enough to show that he can be an ace starter. some of what he has done was in 2007, when he first came up and was only a reliever (for the team). but the whole idea was that since he was such a dominant starter in the minors, he would likely be a really good reliever. that he was a great reliever doesn't prove that he can be a dominant starter, but it does fulfill our expectations about him fulfilling that role. now i think he deserves the time to develop into the role he fulfilled so well in the minors. so i do think it's a punishment (to him since he wants to start and is accustomed to it, and to the team because it could develop an ace) that is largely based on how well he did (along with perceived team needs).
all that said, i could be convinced that he should be a reliever if the goal were to make him a 1970s-type closer who is allowed to pitch multiple innings on consecutive days. then he could fulfill 2 team needs at once.
 the problem is he already broke in as a reliever and was then put into the rotation. now you're talking about not just a "hybrid role" but unreliably alternating roles.
 Yeah, but Chad Billingsley was a hybrid RP/SP in 2007, he became a full time SP by the end of the year, and he was a full time starter all 2008. When he was walking 4+ batters a game in early 2008 and getting his head handed to him every time out, the Dodgers didn't put him BACK into the bullpen, though. He figured things out and ended the year as a legit ace. ...Which is what we want Joba to do.
Burnett is wearing a shirt that belongs on a cowgirl
Pete Abe pointed out that this problem is because the Yankees panicked and activated Wang when Joba was hit by that comebacker on the knee. He'd probably be better off still pitching rehab games in AAA.
I gotta say, I'm underwhelmed at Cashman's roster management this year.
 Why is what he did in 2007 a problem? Santana for example served in the back and forth hybrod role in BOTH his age 23 and 24 seasons. Also, Billingsley broke in as a starter in 2006 and then became a hybrid in 2007.
 But, they did return him to the pen after he made 16 starts in 2006. Also, by 2008, Billingsley was ready to approach 200 innings, so he COULD be left alone in the rotation. Joba is not yet ready to log that many innings.
Despite all the hand wringing, it is pretty awesome that the Yankees after that poor April and with injuries to A-Rod, Wang (of sorts), Posada, Bruney, etc... are in first place and only half game behind Texas for best record in AL. Think about that.
 Panicked is Pete Abe's description...I am sure Cashman might describe his reaction differently. More than anything, I think Wang needs confidence and these kinds of stints will do more toward that end than dominating minor leaguers.
billingsley was a starter, then a reliever, then a starter again. like joba. you're talking about going back to reliever then back to starter.
 True, but my point is that in his age 23 / 24 season, the Dodgers stuck by their kid even though he was a bit raw. Joba is 23 and raw right now, and he's not heading towards 200 innings pitched - but I think you can't mess with his routine when he's still learning.
 Again, what's wrong with that? Santana went back and forth over his age-23 and 24 seasons.
 The Dodger's stuck by Billingsley because after splitting 2007 in both roles, he had compiled enough innings to set sail for good as a starter. Because of injury, Joba hasn't amassed the innings to do that. In other words, the Yankees need Joba to have a season like Billinsley did in 2007.
Jeez, Carlos Zambrano put on quite the show, didn't he?
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