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Bronx Boogaloo

The Yanks are back home. Made a minor move today. It’s the Blue Jays this week, the Orioles this weekend.

Tonight gives Phelps vs. Alvarez.

Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson CF
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C
Raul Ibanez LF
Ichiro Suzuki RF

Never mind last week: Let’s Go Yank-ees!

[Photo Credit: Dragan]

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1 Boatzilla   ~  Aug 27, 2012 4:21 pm

In New York and goin' to the game tonight. Woo-hoo!

2 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 4:24 pm

From the Craig Calcaterra piece you linked, Alex:

Pearce was with the Yankees earlier this season, where he hit .318 with 11 home runs and 30 RBI in limited play before being traded to the Orioles.

Really? Seems like we'd remember that.
Ohhhh, those Yankees!

3 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 4:25 pm

Enjoy. Just think, some day you'll tell everyone you were there for the beginning of the Dave Phelps era.

4 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 4:40 pm

So the Yankees are going to the birds?

5 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 4:46 pm

[0] Bummer about Laird---I really thought he had a chance to hang on as a back-up corner guy. I assume the Yankees are not satisfied with McGehee?

6 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:13 pm

And congratulations to Erin & David Robertson on the birth of their first kid today. Lohud is reporting David is available tonight.

7 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:18 pm

Wow, just a few minutes late but Mission Impossible had an efficient first, huh?

8 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:20 pm

[6] Must be a relief for Dave and especially Erin, huh?

(Best I could do. I'll keep thinking.)

LoHud doesn't say whether it's a son or daughter.

9 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:20 pm


10 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:21 pm

He's baaaaaaaaack!

Good to see you, Rob. I thought that was you this weekend.

11 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:21 pm

Robbie golfed that one. FOUR!

12 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:25 pm

Not ok.

13 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:26 pm

I have to admit, I do not find Granderson pleasant to watch in CF.

14 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:28 pm

If Phelps consistently started that comeback pitch at the knee of left handed hitters and have it hit the inside corner, well, that'd be nasty.

15 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:29 pm

Hm, three strikeouts and a homer in two innings.

16 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:33 pm

Barehand = bad

17 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:33 pm

A boy, okay.
Ohhhhhh, cute.

I think I'll call him Sledge.

18 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:35 pm

[8] Can't think of a rejoinder.

19 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:37 pm

[17] That works for a girl too. Needs a sibling so she can be Sister Sledge.

20 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:37 pm

Speaking of bare handing the ball, did anyone catch Werth's catch from yesterday.
Pretty neat. Kevin Mitchell's was better, though.

21 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:38 pm

Ibanez has been better overall than I anticipated---though that's not saying much. Still, it's hard to believe he's the Yankees could come up with.

22 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:41 pm

[19] Hm, yeah, maybe better save 'Sledge' in case of a girl.

Okay, well, 'Jack' is obvious. 'Trip' works. 'Thor' would be tough to live up to.

23 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:49 pm

[22] Why no Jack? Too common?

24 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:50 pm

The summer has dulled my reading comprehension.

25 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:52 pm

Ugly couple of games for Jeter.

26 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:53 pm

[23] Jack = no Jack, interesting.

Leiter's kid is named 'Jack', apparently! Yes, very trendy, don't you think?
What's Li'l Hamma's actual name: 'Luke', right? Somewhat trendy, but biblical.

27 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:53 pm


Blue Jays announcers have been talking up Omar Vizquel as a surefire hall of famer. Thoughts?

28 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 6:59 pm

[27] In the tradition of Ozzie and Brooks Robinson, huh?

I think people who watched him a lot will be more inclined to vote for him; stat guys will surely line up strongly against.

29 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:00 pm

[27] I've heard that talk elsewhere. Don't have his numbers in front of me. I guess he gets in but not a sure thing.

30 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:01 pm

[29] He's got a lot of hits---around 2800, I think.

31 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:02 pm

[28] He had such a long career that his counting numbers make him look borderline. And he was impressive to watch in the field. But his lifetime OPS is .688, and his best years were only around .750.

32 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:04 pm


33 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:04 pm

[30] 2869. That's a lot of hits. But at the same time he's been a shit awful offensive player, arguably worse than Ozzie Smith. I guess it hinges on his defensive reputation.

34 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:04 pm

Hah, told ya. [10]

35 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:07 pm

How are his defensive stats, as poorly as we understand them.

Maybe in the tradition of Rabbit Maranville?

36 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:07 pm

[33] Worse given their run environments, anyway. And Oz was special.

37 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:13 pm

It's like target practice.

38 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:18 pm

[35] Hm, very good. There is no UZR for Oz, right? Because they just don't have the data. But Vizquel didn't pile up a whole lot of WAR (for a HoF infielder), so his defense as measured sabermetrically didn't overwhelm his weak bat. Brooks Robinson had double the WAR, just to give you a point of comparison.

39 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:24 pm

[38] What's his grittiness factor? And good teammate rating.

40 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:24 pm

So, I almost don't want to ask this question but: will anyone here be rooting for Josh Beckett to pitch well for the Dodgers?

Besides me, because I will.

He's starting in a few minutes at Coors.

Hey, don't lose it now, David.

41 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:26 pm

Nothing comes easy. FFS!

42 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:26 pm

Goddam it.

43 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:28 pm

If Phelps and Ian Kennedy had a pissy face contest it would go down to the wire.

44 Jose Sarduy   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:29 pm

do we ever shout out a team right after an inning we score?


45 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:31 pm

Three hits, two of them out of the park. Only one walk, but unfortunately it was aboard for one of the blasts. Five K in five innings.

Strange performance.

46 rbj   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:34 pm

Score isn't going to stay this way. My touchpad is acting up, mostly due to the heat. See you on the flip side.

47 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:35 pm

I missed two taters from Cano! Wahhh!

48 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:36 pm

[46] Hey, I think I had exactly the same problem. MacBook Air? (If you're still around.)

I had to get mine replaced. (Under warranty, though.)

49 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:37 pm

If that dude spider manned the wall again I would have flipped. Atta boy, Swish!

50 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:37 pm

[47] But you got to see that!

51 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:38 pm

[38] I wonder if Vizquel has helped or hurt himself by lingering around as a part time player. He was a full time SS through 2008, when he ended the year with 2598 H and a career 84 OPS+. By playing another 5 seasons, he has added another 271 H, which has gotten him closer to the all-important 3000 H plateau, but his career OPS+ has dropped to 82.

52 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:41 pm

[51] I think there's a real huge gap between Ozzie and Vizquel..maybe my memory is hazy but the Wizard was the greatest defensive player of the moder era, right?

53 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:47 pm

[52] That's what everyone says, but I don't really remember him (those were the pre-MLB.tv days and he played in the NL). I watched a lot of Vizquel when he was in Cleveland (I lived in Ohio), and now that he is in Toronto and they talk him up, I hear a lot about him.

I remember him being very good defensively, with a flair for spectacular plays, but I don't have a good sense of just how good he *really* was. Offensively he was mostly dreadful, but he is helped by a .272 career BA, which doesn't *look* so bad. And to be fair, he did walk a bit, too.

54 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:51 pm

[53] I watched a lot of Mets games in those days on WWOR (back when Timmah Mac was still a good annoucner!) and the Wizard was ridiculous. And on turf with a faster ball!

I'm not opposed to Vizquel and "compilers" in geenral though. It's might impressive to play baseball at that level for so many years, a la Harold Baines.

55 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:56 pm

Beckett's second pitch left the building.

56 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 7:58 pm

Hardball Times gives Ozzie Smith 133 runs saved through 1986. That's only half his career, but presumably the better half. So he saved far, far more runs than Vizquel (who I think saved about 70).

These are crude measures, but the difference seems to be enormous.

57 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:07 pm

Apparently the Yankees have adopted a sort of basebrawl (http://tinyurl.com/9n2jpo3) tactic for knocking out opposing pitchers this evening.

58 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:09 pm

Giving Phelps the hook? Hm. I'm not sure I agree with this.

59 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:13 pm

Cripes, it's shoot the pitcher night at the stadium.

60 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:13 pm

Smart, Cody.

61 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:14 pm

Yeah, this is working out well.

62 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:16 pm

I just checked: 88 pitches for Phelps. Seriously??

63 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:17 pm

Boy, platoon splits for Cody are so easy to believe when you see that weird delivery.

64 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:20 pm

[62] Well, he hasn't been a starter very long.

I tried to look up his inning splits, which tell a really scary story about the fifth and sixth innings, but of course it's a very small sample. And late innings are useless because BR doesn't separate the relief appearances. (And anyway I don't think he's ever pitched even the seventh before as a starter, has he?)

65 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:24 pm

[64] True, but he threw 95 last time out and 78 the time before. If 80+ pitches is his limit, why even let him start the inning?

Surely he's pitched into the 7th in MiL.

66 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:26 pm

[64] He went 6.2 against the Red Sox earlier this month.

67 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:29 pm

[66] Okay, forgot that one.
I dunno, maybe Girardi doesn't quite see him as a guy who can go deep into a game. Or maybe there's some reason to think he deteriorates fast.

68 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:31 pm

[67] or maybe Girardi doesn't want to risk him imploding a game and having his confidence hit.

69 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:34 pm

[67] Yeah, I get that, and I guess I can see the ol' "steal a couple of outs" mentality. On the other hand, I truly hate when a pitcher is going more or less fine and gives up a bloop or a 43 hooper and then gets the instahook. The hit that knocked Phelps out was not well struck, but it was the excuse for Girardi to go to his mix-n'-match binder middle relief binder, which predictably backfired.

I haven't followed so closely this year, but Girardi *seems* to be rather too cutesy this season.

70 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:35 pm

[68] OK, but again, if that's the thinking, why let him start the inning? And why yank him after a squib base hit? Couldn't that hurt his fragile ego?

71 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:36 pm

I was slightly worried that D-Rob was going to have a hard time concentrating. But, so far, so good.

72 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:37 pm

Yeah, not great location...

73 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:41 pm

Baby needs a new pair of shoes!

74 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:42 pm


He doesn't really need great location.

75 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:42 pm

OK, I have a comment awaiting moderation. It comprises a single sentence, a famous phrase used in old movies by men playing dice games or the like, suggesting that a small child requires a piece or foot apparel that has not been worn before. Followed by an exclamation point.

Now, why did that get spam filtered??

Posting on the Banter...it's like rouxlette!

76 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:45 pm

Hit a pitcher, win a prize!

77 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:46 pm

[70] doesn't mean his ego is fragile. Managing confidence is a big part of management. I don't know many people who don't struggle with confidence now and then.

78 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:46 pm

This is ridiculous!

79 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:46 pm

this pitcher hitting thing is out of control. i've never seen anything like it.

80 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:47 pm

[74] I think it's very highly sensitive to gambling phrases. Probably because of those idiot sites that spam blogs like crazy.

81 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:49 pm

[80] I guess so. Who woulda thunk that bâbê nêdz a nu pear uv shus would trigger the filter.

82 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:49 pm

[74][79] I'm dopey this morning.. what is the phrase? Give us a better hint.

83 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:52 pm

[80] Of course! D'oh!

84 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:52 pm

[77] Of course I was being facetious. But might it not also hurt a player's confidence to yank him at the first sign of trouble? Especially when he's "proven" that he can go deeper (into the pitch count) against a superior offensive team?

Look, we can play armchair psychologist and speculate, coming up with many theories as to why Girardi would yank Phelps there. But from a "normal" baseball perspective, as I see it, it seemed pretty premature. And it's it not like his matchup maneuver really worked out, in retrospect.

85 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:53 pm

(Monkeypants, keep in mind that your numbering is off now.)

Why the hell didn't the pitcher throw to third? Very odd.

86 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:54 pm

[80] Really am dopey this morning..my first thought reading that was "Wow, monkeypants knows Turkish."

I'm going to get a fruit juice.. Let's go Yankees!

87 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:54 pm

[83] yeah i was just offering a possible explanation. obviously i'm not Girardi so don't know his reasoning.

88 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:54 pm

Omar played for 24 years and has a carrer WAR of 40. That's barely MLB ready. Yes, WAR may not be fair to a defensive specialist, but still, Vizquel isn't within sniffing distance of the HOF. In terms of his longevity, in his last SIX years, he has a cummulative WAR under 0! Career OPS+ of 82.

I wonder how many HOFers played on 6 different teams?

89 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:55 pm


90 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:56 pm

[84] Ah yes. Between the comment in moderation and the repeated violations of space-time, I get pretty confused.

91 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:56 pm

ok just wanted to see if the spam filter was xenophobic.

92 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:58 pm

Many years ago we had a comment that got lost. Nevr figured it out. The 'missing number' became a meme for a long time.

93 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 8:59 pm

A walk is not ideal here...

Wow, that was some slider. Damn. He does have some good pitches.

94 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:00 pm

[90] haha, I remember that...well, the incident, but not the number or the poster.

95 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:01 pm

[92] We never knew who the poster was.
I wish I could remember what the number was. It was a 3-digit number, right?

96 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:04 pm

[93] This maybe before my time..no memory of it. What happened exactly?

97 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:04 pm

Ouch...thats' a ball someone not-38-year-old-Jeter gets to.

98 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:04 pm

Mother fucker!

99 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:05 pm

Ahh, Soriano's recent Wetteland impersonation finally gets the best of him.

100 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:05 pm


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101 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:05 pm

Oh no...

102 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:05 pm

Don't count your chickens, kinda thing.

103 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:08 pm

[93] I think that it was post 134, now that I've thought about it awhile. And it became a verb, right, like Soriano just 134ed this game?

104 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:09 pm

i don't remember the number but this discussion sounds familiar.

105 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:09 pm

[94] 791?

106 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:10 pm

Who is Casey Janssen? I demand a comeback.

107 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:10 pm

Yes, 134 sounds right to me.

108 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:10 pm


109 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:11 pm

Hot damn for The Captain! Huzzah!

110 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:11 pm

jeter is fucking inhuman.

111 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:11 pm

Hey MP.... were you around for the Jim Dean incident?

112 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:11 pm

I like having Jeter on my side.

Yankee Stadium Special™.

113 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:12 pm


America! Fuck YEAH!

114 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:12 pm

[109] You bet.

115 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:12 pm

I think Soriano was supposed to give up two runs. Oh well.

116 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:13 pm

The missing #134 is discussed here at the end of the Toaster era, in 2008:


117 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:17 pm

Man, it might take another three innings to score again. Is there anyone in the bullpen who can hold down the fort?

118 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:20 pm

It's fairpole, of course -- you lost the 'f'. I wonder what object number that 'f' had.

119 Jon DeRosa   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:21 pm

That was Diane's friend Zach Hample catching Jeter's homer.

120 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:21 pm

Oh, lord. Really, bullpen rouxlette? I may have to leave.

121 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:21 pm

[117] What, really? How do you know?

122 Jon DeRosa   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:23 pm

[119] He's the famous home run catcher. I recognized him from TV.

123 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:24 pm

[116] Goddam cut-and-paste. yes, yes:


124 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:24 pm

[114] Oh, I remember that now!

I wonder what the Banter stats would be now? Since Williamnyy23 went to Twitter (and his own blog) who would be at #1?

125 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:25 pm

[118] So, the plan is for the Yankees use all of their pitchers in the 10th and 11th, then forfeit?

126 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:25 pm

[120] Oh, that guy, right. I forgot Diane knew him -- she said so once.

I like this Derek Lowe experiment, so far.

127 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:28 pm

[123] Looks like the other guys would run out first, if it came to that. And D-Lowe can go pretty long, right?

But I think we win it here.

128 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:30 pm

[125] Sure, Lowe *can* go long, if Girardi doesn't get all binderrific.

129 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:31 pm

[125] Nah, Jeter wins it in the 11th.

130 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:31 pm

So, why is McGehee on the team, if he doesn't PH for Chavez against a lefty?

131 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:33 pm

[128] i kinda wish he wasn't on the team if that helps.

132 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:33 pm

[128] Dee-dee-DEE-dee, defense?

133 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:34 pm

[128] Given how teams play with a short bench, and with Teix's injury, I actually agree with not PH in that circumstance, with no one on base.

134 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:36 pm

[129] I also agree with this sentiment.

135 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:37 pm

[131] Why does it matter whether anyone's on base? Higher leverage with a man on?

136 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:39 pm

Oy. So unnecessary.

137 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:39 pm

So the departure of Teixeira may very well have lost us the game there.

138 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:40 pm

Agita I tell you, agita!

139 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:40 pm

[133] I figure you have basically one chance this game to PH, maybe two. You might get lucky with McGehee and he hits a HR or an extrabase hit. But he's more likely to hit a single or maybe walk, assuming he doesn't make an out. How much does that change the run expectancy, a single with one out? especially given the assortment of crap hitter coming up next.

I'd rather wait until the chance of scoring is better before I would employ my PH: either to leadoff the inning or if there are outs, if men are one base or, preferably, in scoring position.

140 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:41 pm

I saw that a mile away. Bollocks!

141 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:42 pm

Should he have eaten the ball? Tough not to take the out.

142 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:42 pm

Maybe fake the throw, and then go after him?

143 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:43 pm

That's OK, Jeter ties it up again this inning.

144 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:43 pm

[139] I think he could have faked to first and got the runner to commit.
But, really, he made the right play. If it's the bottom of the inning, then of course you can't go to first.

145 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:44 pm

[141] There's a hole in the bucket dear Liza, dear Liza.

146 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:45 pm

Wake up, Andruw.

147 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:47 pm

Steal? I think you have to w/Jeter up (even though he's going to tie the game or win it here).

148 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:49 pm

Well, no DP.

149 seamus   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:49 pm

wtf is sierra doing out there? he looks like me playing softball (except faster and he makes the catch).

150 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:51 pm

They said "if only Robbie could but get a whack at that..."

151 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:54 pm

Another excretal loss.

152 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:54 pm

That was a ball, but it looked like swing. Bad loss....

153 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:54 pm

Ooh, tough way to lose.

154 Ara Just Fair   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:54 pm

Well that was a giant kick in the nuts game.

155 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:54 pm

It was not a swing, or Swish would have had a chance to appeal it.

156 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:55 pm

Always nice to lose in extra innings to a horrible team.

157 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:56 pm

I know BP management has been Girardi's strength over the years, and I know the players gotta perform, and I know that sometimes the right moves don't work out, but...it sure feels like Girardi's binder rouxlette backfires every night.

158 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:56 pm

At home.

159 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

[155] I'm still not sure that bullpen management is his "strength."

160 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

The Rays are about to lose...
The Rays have lost.

161 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

[153} Could be, but it seems the HP ump called it and on the last out of the game, all the umps seem to be running towards the club house.

162 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:57 pm

[157] Benefit of the doubt and all that.

163 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:58 pm

[155] Yeah, I guess I don't see how his binder lost this one. You had to go to Lowe, for length, and really it was Soriano and then Chavez who lost the game.

164 Jon DeRosa   ~  Aug 27, 2012 9:59 pm

I love that you can't predict baseball. It's so exciting to look forward to October and wonder whether the Yanks will dump a wild card playoff game or whether they'll hang onto the division to be drummed out in the first round.

165 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:00 pm

How did Soriano give up a two out three run HR to Colby Rasmus?

166 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:00 pm

[160] He's on a whole, had a better bullpen then we've seen in probably a decade. That absolutely might be at least partially thanks to him.

But this fucking neurotic overmanaging cannot be a strength.

167 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:01 pm

[162] Okay, Eeyore, bed time...

168 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:03 pm

[161] Well, except for pulling Phelps at 80-whatever pitches so his matchup guy could immediately give up a run, which proved to be crucial. He did have to go to Lowe for length, but only because he had already burned half his BP. In any case, Lowe wasn't bad.

169 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:03 pm

[164] Yeah, but tonight the only over-managing was a LOOGY move, and that actually worked out.
This time it was just that Soriano's flaws finally cracked all the way through. (And Teixeira having to leave.)

170 RIYank   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:04 pm

[166] Oh, right.
Now that's kind of depressing, because if not for that run Jeter's homer would have been a walk-off. (Yes, I am 100% certain that all the other at-bats would have gone exactly the same way.)

171 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:04 pm

[162] Have a drink, Eddie Mush

172 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:07 pm

[168] Hey, I'm not "blaming" the loss on Girardi, and of course the rest of the game would not have gone exactly the same way, etc. That said, my initial observations holds: binder-rouxlette backfired. And my *feeling*, not backed up by hard evidence, is that mix-n-match in the middle innings has failed a lot lately.

173 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:12 pm

According to Riveraveblues: 11:03pm: Joe Girardi said that Teixeira will not play the rest of the series and is unlikely to play in the next one as well. So a full week, basically. Just dandy.

Awesome. I can only imagine the lineups and fielding arrangements.

174 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:15 pm

Could be shittier. At least the Rays lost, but it looks like the O's are not fading, and the Yankees have 7 games remaining with them. Will it come down to those 7 games?

175 monkeypants   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:17 pm

[172] Well, if they are within 7 games then yes. And I don't see the lead growing much.

176 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:23 pm

[173] I know, that is kinda obvious. We will be Blue Jay and RSox fans going down the stretch.

177 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 27, 2012 10:29 pm

Nice seeing Beckett fail in his first start for the Dodgers. The Giants are my second team, and while my Dodger hate has diminished with the Torre and Donnie era, my wrath has been turned up after this idiotic trade.

178 Boatzilla   ~  Aug 27, 2012 11:33 pm

just got back to my friend's house in Jersey City.

What a fucking roller coaster ride. I was with a friend who really doesn't follow baseball too well, and I spent the earlier part of the 9th explaining the "untuck" to him. We were all ready and waiting for it everyone on their feet when....well you know what happened.

Jeter's game tying HR was fantabulous, though. Made my night even though they couldn't close the deal.

Good night all.

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