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Where & When: Game 17

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Where & When Game 17

Nice day for a stroll, it seems.  Crazy nice, in fact.  Maybe more than crazy… maybe it was that time of the year, or maybe it was that year.  Well, don’t lose your mind trying to figure out the date; you’ll be really mad when you figure that part of it out.  But if you do… well... (yep, if you understand this one, you and I are on a wavelength that deserves much pity.)

Post your answers below in the comments and feel free to help out and discuss.  I’ll will be peeking in now and again (work work work) and offering some thoughts throughout if I can.

How about some of Dad’s stash if you are the first with the answers, and some Hansen’s Natural for the rest of us, butterfly included.  Now run along and sleuth, chop-chop! (Bonus if you know what all these awful puns are referring to… >;)


1 RIYank   ~  Nov 12, 2013 10:08 am

Usually 'where' is easier. In this case I think I have a good guess at the year: I'll say 1961. But I don't recognize the intersection and I don't see any obvious clues. (And although it's clear Will is trying to give us a clue, I know from past experience that I'm unlikely to figure him out!)

2 RIYank   ~  Nov 12, 2013 10:16 am

I found an image that's a close-up of something in the picture (by searching for that something). So now I know exactly where... and I would like to amend my When guess too: I think it's 1960.

3 rbj   ~  Nov 12, 2013 11:11 am

[2] You're much better on dates than I am, I was thinking 1950s. But most of the guys aren't wearing hats, so it should be later.

4 TheGreenMan   ~  Nov 12, 2013 11:16 am

Figured out the where from the restaurants/bars (White Rose Bar, Horse Shoe Bar & Grill, Harmony Cafe). Even ran into that same pic on Google Image Search (but didn't go to the source page). It's funny, when I saw that it could be the Horse Shoe, I immediately thought of the Horseshoe Bar in the East Village over on B (love that place!), but the neighborhood DID NOT look right. And it wasn't. Different joint altogether. And it seems as if all of those spots were leveled in 1969 in the name of...sigh...progress.

But no idea on the specific when. RIYank's guess of 1960 looks about right. I'll go with that too. Summer, from the look of the folks.

5 rbj   ~  Nov 12, 2013 12:07 pm

Got it. Right on about the year, as for the exact date, I see lots of short sleeves but the woman in the black dress has a shawl on, so I'm going to guess early September. Not spring as there are no flowers.

6 JDM   ~  Nov 12, 2013 12:55 pm

I found a different picture, but clearly from the same roll of film. Peter Minuet Plaza is what this area was called. RIYank nailed the date. 1960 it is. The exact date seems to be July 5th. I have no idea what Will is getting at with his clues...

7 Chyll Will   ~  Nov 12, 2013 1:02 pm

I knew you'd all figure out the location and great guess on the date; now if I were me I'd think about what was going on in 1960 to get an idea about the bonus. Uh, wait....

8 RIYank   ~  Nov 12, 2013 1:42 pm

The Park Slope Midair Collision?

9 TheGreenMan   ~  Nov 12, 2013 2:40 pm

Crazy, lose your mind, mad, Tell Mama, chop-chop?

Something to do with Psycho? It came out in 1960, but the release date was June 16th. Hmm...

10 RIYank   ~  Nov 12, 2013 3:42 pm

[9] Oh, that's good. Excellent, that must be it.

11 JDM   ~  Nov 12, 2013 3:47 pm

Nice one Will.

12 Chyll Will   ~  Nov 12, 2013 5:08 pm

Tee hee. I bet Fearless Leader would have been a little more subtle with the clue >;)

13 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Nov 12, 2013 10:25 pm

Look how nice and clean the city looked. And that sloped roof three story house in the middle of the picture has to be from the early 1800's.

And Chill, you keep talking about a stroll? "Doing the Stroll" was a hit in 1958. Is that what you mean?

14 Chyll Will   ~  Nov 13, 2013 9:43 am

[13] Nice. Everything I say has some unintended historical context these days >;)

15 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Nov 13, 2013 1:17 pm

[14]You are powerful! What is the definitive answer?

16 Chyll Will   ~  Nov 13, 2013 5:02 pm

[15] you have to choose to do the right thing (that came to me in a dream, if you meant 'What is the meaning of life?').

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