"A New York Treasure" --Village Voice

Toronto Blue Jays III: John Birch Society Edition

The Yanks are in Toronto for two-game series with Roy Halladay starting tonight. That screams “split,” but you know the Yankees are glad they’re facing Halladay in Toronto tonight because it means they won’t be facing him as a Red Sock over the weekend. The Jays didn’t trade Halladay, but they did make one big deadline deal, while the Yankees made a smaller one, both with the Cincinnati Reds.

The Jays got younger and cheaper by trading Scott Rolen (34 and due $11 million in 2010) for fellow third-baseman Edwin Encarnacion (26 and due $4.75 million next year), relief pitcher Josh Roenicke, and minor league righty Zachary Stewart. The trade was made at Rolen’s request and blows a giant hole in the Blue Jays’ infield defense, as Rolen was a former Gold Glover who could still pick it at the hot corner, while Encarnacion is the worst defensive third baseman in baseball.

Like new Seattle Mariner Ian Snell, Encarnacion is a “change of scenery” pick-up, a player who had long been in the doghouse of his former team, the Reds, and whose performance the Blue Jays are hoping was suffering as a result. Prior to joining the Blue Jays on Friday, Encarnacion was having his worst major league season (.209/.333/.374 in just 43 games, the latter due to a fractured wrist suffered in late April).

Roenicke, a 27-year-old righty (as of today) and the nephew of former Yankee Gary, has seen only incidental major league action over the last two seasons, but has been dominant in Triple-A over the same period (2.55 ERA, 10.1 K/9, 3.75 K/BB, just two homers allowed in 67 innings). He throws in the upper 90s and could become Toronto’s closer in short order and for the foreseeable future. He’s in the Toronto pen now. Stewart was a third-round pick in last year’s draft out of Texas Tech. He was a college closer, but started seven games each in High-A and Double-A this year with excellent results only to return to relief in Triple-A. It’s unclear what the Jays plan to do with him just yet, but while he may not be a future star, he’s a good addition to their system.

The Yankees picked up the man who replaced Encarnacion at third the day that the latter hit the DL, utility man Jerry Hairston Jr. It’s difficult to remember now, but Hairston began his career as the Orioles’ second baseman, and there was a brief period during which it wasn’t clear whether the Orioles were going to commit to him or to Brian Roberts at the keystone. The O’s ultimately made the right choice, turning Hairston into a utility man in his age-28 season of 2004, then sending him to the Cubs that winter with current Cubs second-sacker Mike Fontenot for Sammy Sosa.

Thus began Hairston’s career as an itinerant utility man, spending a year and a half each with the Cubs, Rangers, and Reds while playing ever position but pitcher and catcher. That ability to bounce around the diamond saved Hairston’s major league career as he hit just .253/.324/.358 through his age-31 season in 2007. Then last year he had that fluke year that it seems every bench player is entitled to at some point in his career, hitting .326/.384/.487 for the Reds while playing, in order, short, left, center, right, second, and third. He made $500,000 that year, but the impressed Reds re-signed him for $2 million only to watch him return to his previous level of production (.254/.305/.397).

Hairston joins the Yankees as a strong defensive outfielder, solid defensive middle-infielder, poor defensive third baseman, inexperience first baseman (less than one full game), and a right-handed bat unlikely to out-hit Cody Ransom (career: .233/.321/.401). For that, the Yankees gave up 20-year-old A-ball catcher Chase Weems. Though only in his second pro season, Weems has yet to start hitting and was buried in a suddenly catching-rich system. No loss there, but Hairston doesn’t really represent a gain either.

Andy Pettitte starts for the Yankees tonight. In three starts since the All-Star break, Andy has posted a 2.70 ERA and struck out 23 against just 3 walks and one homer in 20 innings, but has gone 0-1 with the Yankees losing two of those starts. Facing Halladay tonight, he’s staring another hard-luck loss in the face. Here’s hoping we get the compelling pitchers duel that promises.

Home Run Hinske starts in right tonight against his former team and bats ninth. The rest of the Yankee lineup has the usual suspects in the usual places.

Toronto Blue Jays

2009 Record: 51-54 (.486)
2009 Pythagorean Record: 57-48 (.543)

Manager: Cito Gaston
General Manager: J.P. Ricciardi

Home Ballpark (multi-year Park Factors): Rogers Centre (99/98)

Who’s Replaced Whom:

  • Edwin Encarnacion has replaced Scott Rolen
  • Joe Inglett (minors) has replaced David Dellucci
  • Marc Rzepczynski has replaced B.J. Ryan (by bouncing Brian Tallet to the bullpen)
  • Josh Roenicke has replaced Dirk Hayhurst

25-man Roster:

1B – Lyle Overbay (L)
2B – Aaron Hill (R)
SS – Marco Scutaro (R)
3B – Edwin Encarnacion (R)
C – Rod Barajas (R)
RF – Alex Rios (R)
CF – Vernon Wells (R)
LF – Jose Bautista (R)
DH – Adam Lind (L)

Bench:

R – Kevin Millar (1B)
R – John McDonald (IF)
L – Joe Inglett (UT)
R – Raul Chavez (C)

Rotation:

R – Roy Halladay
L – Marc Rzepzynski
R – Scott Richmond
L – Brett Cecil
L – Ricky Romero

Bullpen:

R – Jason Frasor
R – Jeremy Accardo
L – Jesse Carlson
R – Shawn Camp
R – Brandon League
L – Brian Tallet
R – Josh Roenicke

15-day DL:

RHP – Dustin McGowan (labrum)
RHP – Shaun Marcum (TJ surgery)
RHP – Jesse Litsch (forearm tightness)
LHP – Scott Downs (sprained toe)
RHP – Robert Ray (shoulder)

Typical Lineup:

R – Marco Scutaro (SS)
R – Aaron Hill (2B)
L – Adam Lind (DH)
L – Lyle Overbay (1B)
R – Vernon Wells (CF)
R – Alex Rios (RF)
R – Edwin Encarnacion (R)
R – Rod Barajas (C)
R – Jose Bautista (LF)

Categories:  Cliff Corcoran  Game Thread  Series Preview

Share: Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share via email %PRINT_TEXT

240 comments

Show/Hide Comments 1-100
1 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 4, 2009 5:47 pm

VERY interesting article! Hat tip to Steve at WasWatching:
http://web.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090804&content_id=6236988&oid=36019&vkey=10

"Well, all of us except Brian Cashman, who has clearly seen enough. Never mind that the only real multi-season study to date by David Gassko of the great HardballTimes.com in 2006 debunked it. Verducci Effect pitchers under age 25 fared no worse in the following year than non-VE pitchers (those whose workload did not increase 30 or more innings) who also were under age 25."

2 Shaun P.   ~  Aug 4, 2009 5:52 pm

[1] I'm not sure what to make of that one, not enough time to read it fully now. I trust Will Carroll, however, and I'd rather be cautious then not.

3 a.O   ~  Aug 4, 2009 6:06 pm

Nice work as usual, Cliff. Just one typographical error in the second sentence. Instead of "Red Sock," it should read "Roid Sock." Thanks. And yeah, Whew!

4 The Mick536   ~  Aug 4, 2009 6:10 pm

"Who cares." I do. Great choice of a Dylan song. Read the article. Didn't understand much. If it mean that Joba should keep pitching, I am there. Seriously worried about the lack of arms for the stretch and in agreement about Hairston. Maybe he be Brian Doyle?

5 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 6:56 pm

Will miss the first half of the game, but am fully confident we will be ahead by at least 8 runs by the time I get back to Gameday. Let's Go YAN-Kees!!

6 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 4, 2009 6:56 pm

David Gassko, HardballTimes.com, 2006.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-year-after-effect/
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Verducci writes:

The bottom line: a dramatic increase in innings on a young pitcher elevates the risk of injury or a setback to their development.

But the evidence points to the opposite. Pitchers who see a large increase in workload are more likely to continue to be successful than those who don’t. It’s important to remember that correlation does not mean causation—just because throwing a lot more innings than a pitcher ever has before is correlated with future success does not mean that managers should be riding their young pitchers hard—but it does imply that Verducci’s argument is incorrect, and there is absolutely no reason that we should expect these YAE candidates to do worse because they’ve overworked.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I like Will too, but we should always examine as many facts and opinions as possible.

7 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:01 pm

uh oh pj - flash alert

why still no coney?!?

8 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:02 pm

Ack! Flash is in the booth for the Toronto series!

9 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:03 pm

[7] Cone for the homestand?

*fingers crossed*

10 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:05 pm

[8] at least it is just 2 games, but still not a good omen

11 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:06 pm

[10] And it just started raining here with thunder and lightning!

12 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:08 pm

[11] damn that flash!!

alright let's get to halladay early team

13 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:14 pm

way to get the score truck out early alex!

14 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:14 pm

Woohoo Alex!

15 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:16 pm

oh wow - the jays look like the yankees did over the weekend on that play

16 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:17 pm

Woohoo Alex!²

17 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:27 pm

i see the Score Truck had NO problems getting past the border! : )

[hi everybody]

18 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:28 pm

Whew! I'm shocked Millar didn't hit a single there.

Um, catch the ball, Jorge?

That might be a good idea for you...

19 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:28 pm

[17] hi thelarmis - yes, no pesky border stoppings for the score truck!!

20 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:31 pm

[11] really? it said 0% of precip here in Atlanta today. then again, i heard thunder not too long ago...

damnit, leche!

21 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:31 pm

Good start, team. Off days suck. Glad to see Canada still refuses to let M. Kay into their country.

22 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:34 pm

[21] I thought Bill Clinton was doing a prisoner swap with North Korea. We get the two reporters back, they get Kay...

: )

23 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:37 pm

looking good andrew

24 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:39 pm

terrific inning, Andrew!

25 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:39 pm

[23] i swears i hadn't refreshed to see you call him andrew! i see the day off cannot split up great minds! : )

26 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:41 pm

[25] haha - definitely not :}

27 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:41 pm

halladay has got jeter off balance so far tonight

28 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:46 pm

[1] There was some mention in The Veducci Torre book about cadavers being tested to see how many pounds of pressure their arms could take before breaking (sorry, I don't remember the medical term), but the cadavers could handle just over 40 pounds of pressure. Or something like that. The point being, almost all pitchers are working at or near the 40 lbs of pressure threshold. There have been so many world records set over the last hunrded years, but pitchers are throwing about as hard as humanly possible. (100 mph for the blessed few)
Oy, I forgot what my point was. : D. Oh yeah, Joba. We will see.

29 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:46 pm

let's go Mats!!!

30 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:47 pm

damn you vernon

31 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:47 pm

SHITE AND BOLLOCKS. That would have been nice.

32 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:48 pm

on gamecast, it looked like a warning track shot to the gap. damn!

33 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:49 pm

Thought Hideki touched up Halladay on that one...

34 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:50 pm

nice stab jetes

35 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:53 pm

Dope!

36 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:53 pm

ARod! With the Cannon!

37 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:53 pm

love the line out dp

38 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:53 pm

c'mon Tainted Petty !!!

39 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:53 pm

Woohoo Alex!³

40 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:54 pm

Tainted Petty !!!

41 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:55 pm

ugliest man alive (sorry Lemmy!) hit a solo shot - his 20th - Peds up 1-0

42 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 7:57 pm

don't remind us flash - we remember your glameplan

43 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:08 pm

Walking the 9 and 2 batter. Crap. FU Millar. You're still a douche.

44 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:09 pm

needed to get cowboy down - time for another dp andy

45 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:10 pm

jesus he just lost the strike zone

settle down andy

46 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:11 pm

Yeah, Andy. Those first 3 innings were far too free and easy. May as well make things interesting. I hope Rios isn't "slumping."

47 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:12 pm

holy crap dude - throw fucking strikes!!!

48 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:14 pm

Our outfield truly makes me sick. I threw like Hinkse when I was 10.

49 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:14 pm

STRIKES!!!

50 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:15 pm

[48] sadly he has one of the better arms

that could have been way worse - time for some more runs team

51 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:16 pm

The Yankee pitching staff's collective problem with walks is a real liability.

52 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:18 pm

Halladay is great, but this umpire is a joke.

53 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:18 pm

i could well be wrong, but it *seems* the strike zone is a bit more generous for halladay than pettitte

54 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:20 pm

[52] Which makes Pettitte's walks in the 4th inning even more infuriating.

55 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:24 pm

2 off of Doc in the first? "-bagger by A-Rod off the best pitcher in the game..but so un-clutchy using it up in the first inning, damn-you A-Rod!

Have to hold on and win this, looks like Tampa won't score against Boy Wonder Lester...

How is Andy P looking?

56 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:24 pm

I love having a 1B who can turn the 3-6-3.

57 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:24 pm

i'm so happy the yankees can turn 3-6-3 dps this year

58 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:25 pm

Giambi-esque.

59 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:27 pm

By the way, did Matsui's ball in the third really have a chance. Sterling did one of his patented "it is high, it is far, it is ... caught" deals and I want to know just how much of an ass he is.

60 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:28 pm

nice work, andrew!

61 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:29 pm

I am going on record now...if Pettitte gets through the 6th and it is still 2-1, I go right to Hughes and Mo. Andy's MO of late has been to crumble, so I hope Girardi is proactive.

62 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:29 pm

[59] no chance to go out - i thought it was going to be a double to the gap

63 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:30 pm

[59] Well, it never had a chance in that it didn't make it to the fence, but it was a pretty deep drive that had me on teh edge of my seat off the bat. Too much air under it.

64 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:30 pm

[55] How is Andy P looking?

Tall

Giant Honker

Massive cleft on chin

!!! ; )

65 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:31 pm

[61] Can I quote you on that?

66 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:31 pm

halladay has really settled in now

67 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:32 pm

[63] how far is toronto from montreal? i've played both cities, but don't remember the travel time. all i can remember is Tim Horton's !!! ; )

68 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:32 pm

[62] [63] So that makes him a gigantic ass...not only is it annoying to have the rug pulled out from under you, but with Sterling you don't even get the benefit of knowing what happened (other than it was high, far and caught).

69 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:32 pm

christ almighty, that was quick work. : /

70 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:33 pm

[64] You forgot...

Beats up coolers

Replaces them nice and neat

: )

71 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:34 pm

lot of nice infield line drive catches tonight

72 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:34 pm

What's the record for line drive outs in a game.? Ha. C'mon, Andy. 1,2,3. You'll be back out there in about 5 minutes anyway.

73 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:35 pm

[67] It's pretty far--six hour drive, maybe a little less. 300+ miles.

74 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:35 pm

[64][70] For some reason Andy P shocked me when I first heard his Tejan accent..
Doc going to finish this game, can we scratch out another run? Calling the Small Ball Score Truck Delivery Service, please pick up...

75 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:36 pm

[73] yikes, that is a drive. like atlanta to raleigh...

76 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:37 pm

haha andy just said "same thing" to jorgie-

guess it worked though - nicely done andy

77 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:38 pm

[74] but, he's really from Louisiana. and, of course, he's a man of god, which means he would never take drugs to enhance his athletic performance, nor would he cheat on his wife. oh, wait... : o

78 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:38 pm

That Matsui fly out was caught a step on the track. Man. I thought it was gone by the way the cf and rf were going back. He missed it by a fraction of an inch. IF that's this game's difference........grrrrrrrrrrr.

79 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:38 pm

[75] 300 miles..Tokyo to Osaka, 2.5 hours on the bullet train!

thelarmis, just got an album by Leroy Vinnegar, bassist extrodinairre..called "A Glass of Water" from early 1970s..awesome!

80 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:39 pm

siddown, Millar. i wish you went to Japan when you were supposed to. i also wish you had an "E" in your last name. i hate you. : /

81 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:39 pm

[75] It's a big country! It's weird how the provinces like Quebec and Ontario start at NY and end...pretty much at the arctic circle.

82 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:40 pm

yeah a hit - need jorgie to get on track

83 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:40 pm

oh robbie of course you would immediately hit into a dp

84 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:41 pm

[80] Ditto.. Goddamnit, Cano. Ugh.

85 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:42 pm

damnit, robbie! cashman should put a clause in his contract about hitting with runners on base...

86 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:42 pm

[80] Seriously..of all the things I hated about the 2004 Sox, "Cowboy UP!" was without a doubt the worst...Millar will be on ESPN within 2 years for sure..

87 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:42 pm

[72] only reason it is not 5 minutes is the commercial

88 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:42 pm

[77] Not to get into a religious discussion, but I don't think that it's particularly worthy of scorn that a "man of God" would fall short of the Christian ideal...indeed, Christianity pretty much accepts that Man is fallen, that temptation is difficult, that people sin, etc.

89 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:43 pm

[79] I bet that train is big fun to ride, OK Jazz! Is it expensive or cheaper than flying?

90 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:44 pm

thank you leche

91 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:44 pm

[87] Details. Details. Sit down, Vernon. : D

92 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:44 pm

Here's Williams' dreaded 7th inning for Andy [61]. And right on cue, Wells blasts one to CF that Melky barely runs down. Hmmm...maybe it is time to bring in Hughes.

93 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:45 pm

[79] wow, that's crazy about Leroy Vinnegar! i had NO idea he had a solo record in the 70's. he was a West Coast guy and i hadn't even heard of him til pretty recently. amazingly enough, i got 2 albums on the same day, with him on both!!! weird.

Kenny Drew & Kenny Dorham. both are on Blue Note, but not originally. i had never heard of these albums on BN til a few months ago and scored them both! Drew's is from 1955, Dorham's from 1962. recorded in San Fran & LA.

94 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:45 pm

pen should be rested - i would go batter to batter with andy

95 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:46 pm

Wow, Andy has been fucking Dandy

96 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:46 pm

that was nice though

97 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:47 pm

[88] yeah, i know NOTHING about religion - and don't care to - so if what i stated was out of order, i respectfully apologize! i'm sure you get the gist of what i was saying. thazzall... : )

98 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:47 pm

bulsshit dinky hit

99 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:47 pm

So close...OK, let's not kid around here, Girardi.

100 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:48 pm

Well, I give Hinske credit for not kicking it into the 7th row. 1 more out here, #46.

Show/Hide Comments 101-200
101 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:48 pm

[88] Oh, it was nothing against Andy and his religious beliefs, that is not suitable to make fun of. It was more abotu Michael Kay and his constant "man of God" references..as if this made it more forgivable than heathens like Clemens and A-Rod! :)

[89] Super fun! But expensive..about $200 one way..

102 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:49 pm

[86] i'm sure he'd at least be more entertaining on espn than kruk, vina, perez. those 3 are pretty brutal. not that Winfield is any good on tv, but...he's Dave Winfield!!!

103 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:50 pm

scared of Barajas...

104 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:50 pm

don't get too cute here

105 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:52 pm

[101] Oh...if it's making fun of Kay, by all means carry on! With gusto!!

106 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:52 pm

[103] i hate flashbacks to the '01 WS... : (

107 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:52 pm

lost him...

108 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:53 pm

Yes. Bring in the 2 out guy. Walking a guy after being up 0-2 is effin' bullshit. Pettitte did an admirable job I s'pose.

109 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:53 pm

I'm not following too closely...is the next batter a lefty (= Cokey) or a righty (= Hughesy)? Will HUghes spontaneously combust if he pitches in the seventh inning?

110 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:54 pm

Thanks, Andy. now, go take a seat next to the water cooler and play nice.

he's been striking out some batters lately and doing rather well. REALLY need to get outta this here.

Let's GO Phranchise!!!

111 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:54 pm

[109] hughesy in - toronto was stacked with righties tonight

112 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:55 pm

[93] Great session bassist for many years, this record I got his Fender Rhodes piano, bass, drums and percussion..wonderful!!

113 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:56 pm

Screw the curveball. Give 'em the heater.

114 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:56 pm

Oh dear God, the Jays announcers are now giving the "once Joba moved to the rotation the Yankees needed a bridge to Mo" play by play.

115 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

HE Gone!!!!!!!!!!!!

116 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

HUGE!!!!

117 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

nicely done hughesy!!!!

good nights work for any andy too

118 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

The buckler works as well. : D Or Uncle Charlie. etc, etc.......

119 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

That was nasty by Hughes

120 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

I'm really, really gonna like watching Hughes when (if?) he returns to the rotation, next year (or later? if ever?).

121 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 8:58 pm

[114] least they are one step ahead of mccarver who still thought bruney was the bridge

122 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:00 pm

[120] Yes!

only 80 pitches for Doc?? Gott im Himmel...

123 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:02 pm

I'd make more money than Halladay if he only got paid for time spent on the mound.

124 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:02 pm

Halladay pretty much has owned the captain. At least a couple of the other Yanks have hit the ball hard once and a while.

125 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:03 pm

johnny damon!!!

126 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:03 pm

Hey, Geico!!!!

127 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:03 pm

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

128 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:03 pm

Woohoo Johnny!

129 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

Johnny with a wall-scraper! Score Truck makes a house call to the Doc!

130 vockins   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

Johnny Damon was worth the money.

131 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

ホームラーン!!!!!!!!

132 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

133 vockins   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

When the hell was the last time that happened

134 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

oh, FUCK YEAH!!!

Damon really hits Doc well!!!

135 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

Woohoo Tex!

136 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:04 pm

wow back to back off halladay - way to go tex

137 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:05 pm

So easy a caveman could do it. : D

138 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:05 pm

rios is one tall guy

139 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:05 pm

I parked my score truck next to your score truck.

140 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:05 pm

Doc, how do you spell relief?

141 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:05 pm

Tex Message!!!!!

142 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:05 pm

[126] funny!

143 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:06 pm

Y'all should check on the D'Backs-Pirates game. So-so.

144 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:06 pm

YEEEESSSS!!!!

Tex Truck!!!!

145 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:06 pm

It's funny--on Teix's blast, didn't it look like the RF was preparing to make a run-and-leap at the fence?

146 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:07 pm

[143] well then. wrong pettitte!!! ; )

147 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:08 pm

[145] yeah - i mean as i said earlier rios is pretty tall - but a crane couldn't have gone up on got that one

148 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:08 pm

Hairston got there quick

149 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:08 pm

well, the midget parked his score truck near the ugliest man alive... 2-0 scumbags at the Trop...

150 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:09 pm

Does Philthy Phil get to Phinish this game?? I say, Yes...

151 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:10 pm

wake up ump

152 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:10 pm

My wife is bizarrely fascinated by Marco Scutaro...she giggles every time she hears his name.

153 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:11 pm

c'mon phil

154 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:13 pm

[150] No, because it's a SAVE SITUATION, so you have to use your CLOSER, according to Tony LaRussa Ball™. Moreover, if Hughes keeps getting smacked around here, he won't see the end of this inning.

But, to answer yo more seriously..if I ran the team I would let him close it out to get his innings and pitches/appearance up.

155 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:13 pm

SHEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT. Double play, lets go. Sure. How bout Mo for a 6 out save so he's burned for tomorrow and Boston. Think outside the box, Joe.

156 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:13 pm

[152] That's ok, I repress laughter everytime I see Mick Kelleher in his batting helmet..

c'mon Phil!!

157 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:14 pm

nice pitch - now let's get out of this philly

158 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:14 pm

[152] i think it was McCarver who mispronounced his name the other, making it not very fun or rhyme-y. Marco Scoo-TAR-oh. : /

159 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:19 pm

Kenin Millar is single-handedly stretching out Hughes.

160 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:19 pm

Millar has a .303 OBP. strike his ugly ass out already...

161 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:19 pm

Kevin Millar makes me sick. Seeing him fail causes me great pleasure. GODDAMN RIGHT.

162 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:19 pm

yeah sit down you douchehole

163 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:20 pm

there it is !!!! : )

164 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:20 pm

Ahhh...here's the Girardi over-managing that we have come to expect.

165 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:20 pm

are 4 out saves for mo joey joe joe's new thing?

166 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:21 pm

How come Phil had to shake off Jorge 2x to get what he wanted? C'mon, Posada. Shake things up a bit.

167 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:21 pm

3rd walk in Shittsburgh

168 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:21 pm

I really am losing faith that Joe Girardi is a good manager...

169 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:22 pm

this is the 2nd time he's done this in the last 2 games!!! : /

170 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:22 pm

[168] losing = lost !

171 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:22 pm

[166] though on one pitch he didn't bother to shake him off and just threw what he wanted and damn near maimed po

172 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:24 pm

Yeah, Phil could not have made a more perfect pitch to get Mill-A-hole. Mo may be personally paying Joey Jo-Jo at this point.

173 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:24 pm

fuck that

174 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:24 pm

That hurts Hughes' WAR.

175 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:25 pm

The Rogers Sports Net gun is a little slow, but all of Mo's pitches have been between 88 and 90. Is that right?

176 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:26 pm

total fucking bullshit. same thing last time. let Phil phinish the goddamn inning!!! : /

177 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:26 pm

Pfeeewwwww. Still a stupid decsion, Girardi IMO.

178 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:26 pm

Phew. Maybe the score truck will pass by one last time, for a little insurance.

179 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:28 pm

Woohoo Hideki!

180 Dimelo   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:28 pm

Matsui!!!!

181 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:28 pm

godzilla!!!!

not even sterling could screw that one up

182 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:28 pm

no need to watch the Snakes game anymore. gave up a hit...

yeah, that was a dumb decision. decidedly inconvenient outcome.

doc still in?

183 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:28 pm

Score-Truck-San!

184 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:29 pm

I think Girardi went to Hughes to late and Mariano too soon. Again, his lack of feel for these late game situations doesn't bode well.

3 HRs versus Halladay! Wow.

185 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:30 pm

hell yeah, Mats!!!

wow, Doc giving up 3 solo shots in the span of 4 batters!!!

186 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:30 pm

Matsui is so clutch!

187 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:30 pm

So basically Girardi's philosphy is, if we're going to lose you're going to have to blame it on the game's best closer ever, not me. Even if it did happen in the 8th inning. Nice going, Mats.

188 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:32 pm

hank aaron just did an interview and stated the rest of the 100 names should be released and Pete Rose should be reinstated and voted into the Hall. i know this isn't really new news, but there's a new article up on it...

189 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:33 pm

That's twice in a row they've got five off Halladay!

: O

190 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:33 pm

Plus Mo blows Phil's scoreless streak. How about that?

191 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:33 pm

is tor going to start treating halladay like a rented mule?

192 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:34 pm

10 hits and 5 runs off Doc. not bad!

193 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:35 pm

[187] I don't have a problem with Girardi using his closer in the eighth; in fact, I generally approve of the strategy. My beef is that they decided to take Hughes out of the BP (a mistake in my mind) and convert him into the super-eighth-inning guy, and he has responded. So let the man pitch and do his job. Don't burn multiple trustworthy pitchers when you don't have to, especially with Coke fried from the other day and Aceves shaky of late. Finally, don't pull Hughes when (it seems) Mo is not ready to come in yet. I think at this point Hughesy has earned the right to work himself out of a jam, especially when he just got two Ks.

194 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:36 pm

[190] Wasn't his scoreless streak ended a couple of games ago, under similar circumstances?

195 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:39 pm

[193] Don't you know they're converting him into the "super 2 out guy?" I feel fortunate lately when i actually get to see Phil get 3 outs. Tonight doesn't count. He should have gotten 4. I, too, believe he should be starting soon. We can save that for tomorrow. : )

196 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:39 pm

[194] i beleive hughes' scoreless streak ended against the white sox in the opener - i think hughes let the runs in but maybe the runs scored when cokey came in

197 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:39 pm

Mo is not looking real sharp today. Fight through it, big guy!

198 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:40 pm

[192] Awesome..this is a deep, deep lineup..how do the Angels have more runs scored?

199 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:40 pm

[193] I don't have a problem with it either, except for the fact that Wells is one of the rare batters with a good track record against him. Also, Hughes is tailor made for Wells. Making the matter worse is Hughes now isn't even the 8th inning guy, which not only limits his workload, but add miles on Mariano's arm.

200 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:40 pm

[194] I think he allowed a run or two that were not his responsibility. YIKES.

Show/Hide Comments 201-240
201 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

[195] Ah, the "super 2 out guy." Excellent!

202 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

Mariano's location is way off...good thing Bautista doesn't have power.

203 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

**gulp**

204 Albany-Carolina Yankee   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

Was that out as deep as Gameday showed it to be?

205 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

flash keeps saying mo's cutter is moving a lot tonight so it may be that he is having a tough time commanding it

while i agree with you on the impact of girardi's decision on hughes it is also a lot to be asking mo to contniually get 4 out saves

206 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

[193] THREE K's!!!

[194] the other day, i think the lead runner was CC's.

(i haven't refreshed the page yet, so this is prolly old news!)

ONE MORE OUT!!!

207 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:41 pm

Mariano facing old ghosts in this game.

208 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:42 pm

OK, for the first time in a while, I am nervous in a Mariano game.

209 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:43 pm

[196][200] FWIW, Hughes line from July 30:

2.0 INN, 2 H 1 R, 1 ER

210 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

[198] i know. i HATE the Halos! and they kicked ass w/out Torii or Vlad. The Impaler came back tonight, however, and is in the lineup...

211 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

Phewwwww!

212 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

[208] Get used it. He may need to get 20 more outs in the next 5 games. YESSSSSSS!!!!!!

213 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

whew!!

yankees win - good to get this one

214 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

..biting my nails and shaking back and forth...

215 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

yeah, this is more interesting than i'd like it to be...

216 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:44 pm

[204] It was pretty deep, and Rios thought he had it off the bat.

217 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:45 pm

[214] er..slight delay there, no linger shaking! Yayyy Mo!!

218 PJ   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:45 pm

Yay Yanks! Way to beat Halladay in his house!

That's what I'm talkin' aboot!

Have a great evening folks!

219 Just Fair   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:45 pm

[209] Thanks. That's what they get for asking him to get more than 1 out. : D

220 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:45 pm

wahoo! we beat halladay!!!

tomorrow, will prolly be a battle of the pens...

221 Albany-Carolina Yankee   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:45 pm

Yanks win and the BOS-TAM game is getting close. Let's hope they go 17 innings and eat up bullpen.

222 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:46 pm

Well, the Yankees stole one tonight. Now can they survive tomorrow night's start by Sergio "7.9" Mitre?

223 ms october   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:46 pm

[218] and try as he might flash did not mess this one up!!

224 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:47 pm

Rays cut the deficit in half. 2-1 headed to top of 8.

225 a.O   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:48 pm

Who said the best we could do was a split?!

226 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:49 pm

The only thing that prevents me from really savoring this win is knowing that Mitre is going tomorrow. Everytime he takes the mound, the Yankees should be ashamed.

227 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:49 pm

[226] Sir Sidney is available

228 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:51 pm

[226] savor the win and lament tomorrow!

victory ice cream! : )

229 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:51 pm

[227] Sadly, Ponson's 7.36 ERA and 1.77 WHIP are both better than Mitre's.

230 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:54 pm

[229] I know people will throw things, but I'd rather see Igawa than Mitre.

231 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:56 pm

K-Rod blows it in the 9th. tie game.

232 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:57 pm

Bard 100MPH fastball in...Longoria HR out.

233 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:57 pm

[230] I wouldn't throw things. Igawa was awful, but he has (apparently) pitched pretty well at AAA. If Mitre is gonna pitch like Mitre, throw Igawa against the wall and see if he sticks. Plus, he might (might) have some utility of LOOGY.

234 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:57 pm

Mr. Gabby Solis homers off of the Lightning Kid!! Welcome to the majors, Meat!!!

235 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:58 pm

[230] at this point, why not? worth a shot...

Rays tied it! Longoria w/ a leadoff solo shot in the 8th off Bard!!!

236 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 4, 2009 9:58 pm

[233] If I ever make a record, I will title it "The Utility of LOOGY"...

237 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 4, 2009 10:03 pm

TB Coming back!

238 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 4, 2009 10:04 pm

Rays just got jobbed by the umpires.

239 monkeypants   ~  Aug 4, 2009 10:05 pm

New thread.

240 thelarmis   ~  Aug 4, 2009 10:05 pm

[236] i'd buy that!!!

feed Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share via email
"This ain't football. We do this every day."
--Earl Weaver