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No End In Sight

Not long after opening the gates to fans, the Yankees and Major League Baseball have postponed Game Six of the ALCS to Sunday night in the 8:20 time slot reserved for Game Seven. If the Angels win Game Six, Game Seven will be played Monday night with first pitch at 7:57. The delay allows the Angels to skip Joe Saunders and start Jered Weaver in Sunday’s Game Six, though that might be to the Yankees’ benefit as Saunders has handled the Yankees better than Weaver in their most recent starts and Weaver’s road ERA is nearly two runs higher than his home mark. In his last start in the Bronx on September 14, Weaver allowed five runs on eight hits and four walks in 7 1/3 innings in an Angels loss. For that reason, Scioscia will stick with Saunders tomorrow night.

The real drag would be if the Angels force a Game Seven. That would not only force CC Sabathia to pitch on Monday, pushing his first World Series start back to Game Three and eliminating any hope of him making three Series starts, but would also draw a John Lackey on three-day’s rest. It would be thrilling baseball, but I’m sure Yankee fans would rather save the thrills for the World Series.

At any rate, until tomorrow night . . .

Tags:  2009 Playoffs  ALCS

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1 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 24, 2009 7:39 pm

I banked on the game getting rained out, and so I'm sitting in Nokia Theatre waiting for start of Colin Mochrie / Brad Sherwood show.

2 RIYank   ~  Oct 24, 2009 7:59 pm

Oh, so it's your fault, Diane.
We'll remember that.

3 RIYank   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:04 pm

Oh, and in case you are still reading, Diane, when I saw the college football match-up that's about to kick off, I thought of you. It might be your favorite of the year.


The reason I expect it to be your favorite has essentially nothing to do with college football (I can't even remember whether you're a fan).

4 ms october   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:10 pm

girardi said andy is definite for game 6 and gasp! aj is available out of the pen (per chad at lh)

and here is my contribution to the rain themed songs, as i loved this song in my youth:

5 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:12 pm

[4] For the others in case they missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8utL-XzOp6g

6 RIYank   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:17 pm

[4] Just heard that too. Excellent. Not sure having AJ trot out of the bullpen is going to warm the hearts of Banterers, but there's something all warm and gung-ho about the all-hands-on-deck spirit.

7 ms october   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:17 pm

[5] i like that one too

feinsand says bernie is throwing out the 1st pitch tomorrow - i presume he was going to for tonight too - but hadn't seen that anywhere - anyway i like that - hope fox shows it

8 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:21 pm

Ah, rain themed songs, is it?


Not that I have a favorite Beatles song (ok, gun to my head, "Strawberry Fields Forever"), but this is definitely a contender for that spot.

It's the perfect gem of a song, perfect synthesis of all the Beatles could do. Harmonies, bass, drums, guitars, psychedelia, early Beatles breathless exuberance, late Beatles maturity, oh, and did I mention Paul's bassline?

Top of their game.

9 Rich   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:22 pm

I have always thought AJ could be a great reliever, but he probably needs to get used to the role to reach that level.

Is Weaver starting? I thought that Scioscia would stick with Saunders for the same reasons that he started him in Game 2.

10 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:24 pm

[9] I mean, sure, he's got the stuff, obviously, but do you really want to see him come in and walk the first two guys in the eighth, hit the next, and throw a wild pitch for good measure?

11 ms october   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:25 pm

[9] feinsand states that saunders is getting the nod for game 6 still
supposedly lackey may be available for relief in both games and a potential game 7 starter as well

12 Rich   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:27 pm

[10] No, as I suggested, I think he would need a transition period.

I'm hoping that Andy pitches 7 innings and Mo gets a 2 inning save.

13 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:27 pm
14 RIYank   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:28 pm

[9] They're very worried about Weaver's Home/Road splits, I think.

I guess I may have mislead Banterers with my Dead Defense in the earlier thread. If I'm asked to name my favorite rain-based song, one immediately comes to mind:


That Beatles tune is excellent, Weeping, but this Chopin is the Platonic form of the rain.

15 The Hawk   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:34 pm

What about ... Rain Song by Led Zeppelin? Rain by Beatles is good, but I think the Zeppelin is better.

I don't know if a Beatles/Chopin comparison is really prudent. Let's just say there's no best in show for one where dance such different breeds

16 RIYank   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:35 pm

[13] Wow.

17 RIYank   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:39 pm

[15] I hate dogs.

18 Just Fair   ~  Oct 24, 2009 8:56 pm

[8] Awesome, Weeping. I had not ever heard that song in my life. I just had my wife listen to it. She is a HUGE Beatle fan and she was devirginized. BTW, watching a late October Sabres game doesn't really get the juices flowing. How nice would it be for the Yanks to blow out the Devils tomorrow 20-3? UGH. Goddamn Weather.

19 Just Fair   ~  Oct 24, 2009 9:04 pm

[18] I take that back. The ol' lady was on the phone and she HAS heard that before. Not me, though. I think it's wonderful. The Beatles never cease to amaze me.

20 OldYanksFan   ~  Oct 24, 2009 9:37 pm

Anyone want to talk about Aroldis Chapman?

21 JeremyM   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:00 pm

[19] Gotta check out the Past Masters sets man! A lot of good stuff didn't make the Beatles albums.

Did anyone pick up the new reissues? I'm not an audiophile, which became even more obvious to me when these were released because I always thought the CDs sounded fine. And this batch is ridiculously overpriced.

22 JeremyM   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:01 pm

[20] I'm curious about the guy but have low expectations. It seems like for every El Duque there's a bunch of Irabus, Contreras's, and even Dice-K's for that matter.

23 The Hawk   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:14 pm

[21] For most, it's not that it didn't make the album; they were just independent releases of the songs. The industry hadn't yet institutionalized leveraging the album format for all the $$$ they could so you might find a monster smash like "Hey Jude" unattached to a "greater song cycle" (or more profitable item).

24 JeremyM   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:17 pm

[23] Right, I wasn't very clear- I believe everything on there was released at some point somewhere, which was kind of the point of the deal- hence the couple of songs done in German.

25 monkeypants   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:34 pm

[21] I'm a big Beatles fan---hence the guilty fascination with Beatle wannabe Jeff Lynne. I bought all of the remastered albums (UK version) on vinyl when the box set appeared in the late 80s, as well as the box set of original UK singles and box set of EPs. Then I purchased the entire catalog on CD. I have since picked up the new version of Let It Be, that was released a few years ago minus all of the Phil Specter overproduction. I hear the new remasters are amazing...but I don't know if I can justify buying the catalog for a third time.

Truth be told, I just don't listen to music as much as I used to (mostly just in the car, using an MP3 player, so I am already listening to compromised audio quality).

26 monkeypants   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:38 pm

[23] That's why there were more US albums than UK albums. Many of the US albums were collections of songs released in the UK as singles and B-sides and EPs. The Beatles albums in the UK also tended to be longer, at least until about 1967: 14 songs on a UK album, 12 on the US versions.

27 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:42 pm

[25] Re-issues of the Beatles, Elvis and "Kind of Blue" by Miles will never stop..why kill the cash cow?

28 monkeypants   ~  Oct 24, 2009 10:45 pm

[27] Seriously. And just wait until the Beatles are finally released for sale on the iTunes Music Store...

29 matt b   ~  Oct 24, 2009 11:26 pm

[8] That Macca bassline has always blown my mind.

Here's another for the rain songs thread... Mr. Dylan


30 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 25, 2009 12:28 am


ummm .... I'm a bit confused ....

but I have an excuse ...
Two men doing improv comedy barefoot, blindfolded, amidst a stage covered in 100 live mousetraps, singing operatically a story of a guy building a fort in
his backyard, with each line starting with the preceding letter in the alphabet (after starting ... with the letter X). THAT is one more thing I can cross off the "things I've seen" list. (In other words .... wow were Colin Mochrie and Brad Sherwood awesome tonight!)

31 Ken_P   ~  Oct 25, 2009 1:34 am

[15] I don’t know if a Beatles/Chopin comparison is really prudent.

Actually, melody of Nowhere Man was adapted from a Chopin Mazurka (don't remember which one of the top of my head. Not relevant to anything, but cool anyway!

32 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Oct 25, 2009 4:02 am

Needed some energy this afternoon, how about "the greatest rock band you ever heard" as promised by Miles Davis? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrmQwreKssw

Dig Miles' and John McLaughlin' solos on this..too good!

33 RIYank   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:18 am

[30] Whoa. Don't try that at home.

The game was Oregon State vs. USC. Any time the Trojans meet the Beavers it's got to be a great event.

34 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 25, 2009 9:23 am


OK .... that thought DID cross my mind, but I didn't think YOU would go there :-)

35 OldYanksFan   ~  Oct 25, 2009 10:17 am

Cracked ramps at Yankee Stadium draw scrutiny
Not huge news, but man..... $1.5 billion ain't what it used to be.

36 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 25, 2009 10:52 am

Yanks discover what $1.5 billion of crack looks like . . . NYPD not amused.

37 matt b   ~  Oct 25, 2009 11:39 am

Rainout had one great effect - I wound up with a ticket for tonight!

38 Horace Clarke Era   ~  Oct 25, 2009 12:15 pm

"The real drag would be if the Angels force a Game Seven."

Cliff you are working on your laconic understatements, are you?


39 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 12:45 pm

[14] Perfect, RI. Perfect.

I do love Chopin, though don't seek him out as much as I should. I watched "The Pianist" again last night, btw.

I'm glad we all enjoy "Rain." As to the new remasters, I've heard them only on youtube but have to say, they sound fabulous. I've heard details I hadn't quite heard before, and that's saying a lot, seeing as how the Beatles are religion for me.

Oh, and you know how the Beatles are like the Yankees? Greatness. Back in 2000 when we sputtered into the postseason on fumes and somehow managed to win it all, I thought of the Let it Be sessions. You watch "Let it Be" and you see a lot of very sloppy, even feckless at times music-making. Basically, you see the wheels coming off before your eyes.

But then, miraculously, by the time they get up to the roof, they manage to be the Beatles. That they could get through all that negativity and acrimony and boredom and still manage to rally by the end, well, that's why they're called the Beatles.

40 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 12:47 pm

[15] Yes, "The Rain Song" is enchanting. No argument. The chord progressions rip my heart out.

41 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 1:21 pm

Why does the game start at 8:20? Are these people on acid?

And we should have won Game 5.

Still and all, Andy will set things right.

42 cult of basebaal   ~  Oct 25, 2009 1:45 pm
43 thelarmis   ~  Oct 25, 2009 3:25 pm

Joe Jackson's latest studio album is called Rain.

44 Just Fair   ~  Oct 25, 2009 3:35 pm

Would have been a beautiful afternoon for a baseball game.....

45 Evil Empire   ~  Oct 25, 2009 3:49 pm

I'll be lurking around on the banter tonight via my blackberry, so I doubt I'll comment much. I just hope we're all celebrating tonight.

And, like a lot of y'all I'm a huge Beatles fan, but I also like the Dead and the Floyd (I go back far enough to call them "The" Floyd). But I have to say the best weather song, in my opinion, is Riders on the Storm.

Let's go Yan-kees! Let's get that 40th pennant tonight and send the Angels back to this place:


46 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 4:31 pm

[44] No kidding. Whoever does the scheduling should be publicly hanged.

47 rbj   ~  Oct 25, 2009 4:56 pm

[44] Not to mention it wouldn't have interfered with the Giants game tonight. The whole NLCS was on TBS, no reason not to use that network again.

48 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 5:13 pm

God, still three hours...

This is excruciating.

49 randym77   ~  Oct 25, 2009 6:11 pm

Now this is confidence...

50 OldYanksFan   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:01 pm
51 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:18 pm

At least the pregame's on...creeping, creeping...

52 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:20 pm

"He's a match-up maniac."--Cone on Joe.

53 RIYank   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:25 pm

You guys (generically speaking) will have to hold down the fort without me :(

I'll come back to celebrate tomorrow!

54 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:27 pm

[53] No!

55 The Hawk   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:30 pm

I'm going to watch this game elsewhere. I only hope there's nothing that will prompt me to angrily log in on my phone via the slow ass Edge network ... Let's Go Yankees!!!

56 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:36 pm

Is this the game thread? I'm ready!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKHz94rGpk

[53] Come back, RIYank!

57 Just Fair   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:38 pm
58 rbj   ~  Oct 25, 2009 7:45 pm

New game thread up.
Go there and go Yankees

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