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Up in Smoke


Tim Lincecum, in a close one, wins his second Cy Young Award. Adam Wainwright finished third, with the most first-place votes.  Go figure.

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1 51cq24   ~  Nov 19, 2009 4:30 pm

i've been rooting for lincecum since he got pulled over, but i think carpenter was a little better this year. he did pitch less because he missed the beginning of the year, but he was better than lincecum in just about everything besides ks. it's not like there's no argument for lincecum, and at least wainwright (who wasn't close to as good as either) didn't win, but i can't believe that keith law left carpenter off his ballot entirely. is missing 3 or 4 starts to start the year that big a deal? i love vazquez and hated trading him, and maybe he was one of the 3 best starters in the nl this year, but then the other 2 were lincecum and carpenter, not wainwright.

2 Just Fair   ~  Nov 19, 2009 4:50 pm

You got a Cy Young award?
Be a lot cooler if you did. Alright-Alright.

3 RagingTartabull   ~  Nov 19, 2009 4:58 pm

I voted for Hirschfelder

4 ms october   ~  Nov 19, 2009 4:58 pm

the older you get the more rules they're going to try and get you to follow.

timmy is damn good.

[1] espn messes up my work computer sometimes, so i haven't looked - did klaw say why he left carpenter off the ballot? i can actually see docking him some for the missed starts but off the ballot entirely?

yeah i was/is a vazquez fan. i am glad he is doing well.

5 Alex Belth   ~  Nov 19, 2009 4:59 pm

check ya later, check ya later.

Matthew McC is pitch perfect in that movie, man.

6 RagingTartabull   ~  Nov 19, 2009 5:02 pm

I mean I'm not defending Timmy for his little run-in with the law. But at least he wasn't tampering with a mailbox...thats a felony offense.

7 williamnyy23   ~  Nov 19, 2009 5:13 pm

[4] Carpenter did pitch 27 fewer innings, which in a very close race is insignificant. Vazquez was very good this year and definitely deserved to be in the top-3.

8 Dimelo   ~  Nov 19, 2009 5:33 pm

[1] I definitely became a fan of Linceum after I heard he was a "card" carrying member of the revolution. Like in Scarface: LIBERTAD, LIBERTAD, LIBERTAD!!!

9 51cq24   ~  Nov 19, 2009 6:22 pm

[4] just innings.

[8] plus, as far as i know, he hasn't come out with any "i'm sorry, it was a mistake, i felt peer pressured" type "apology." which would have been difficult since i think he was smoking a bowl by himself in his car.

10 thelarmis   ~  Nov 19, 2009 7:41 pm

great title of this post! [9] he now does have a prepared statement. but it was pretty short and benign. canned, yes, but not overly so...

hey, i'm a vazquez fan, too! i enjoyed watching him here in Atl this season and hope they extend him, not trade him. that one 2nd place vote, earned him $70,000. that is soooo much money to me...

11 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 19, 2009 8:50 pm

Keith Law can be quite "contrary" it seems...I would like to read his reasons too. Congrats to Timmy L, I would love to see his PSA about weed saying, don't smoke like me otherwise you may win two Cy Young Awards, get paid millions and have a great life..

12 Mattpat11   ~  Nov 19, 2009 9:46 pm

[1] Don't like Vazquez, really don't regret trading him, fully expect him to be below average again next year

13 cqmurphy   ~  Nov 19, 2009 9:54 pm

love the pic alex. i always thought lincecum looked like the kid in that movie.

14 williamnyy23   ~  Nov 19, 2009 10:10 pm

Since when did smoking marijuana in a car become heroic? I don't think anyone would be laughing if he wound up in car accident as a result of being high.

15 RagingTartabull   ~  Nov 19, 2009 10:33 pm

[14] FWIW, the cops who pulled him over said he didn't appear to be under the influence.


16 thelarmis   ~  Nov 19, 2009 10:38 pm

[12] yeah, i don't remember too many people around here liking Javy, so it was cool to see a few fans here today. i'm not really speaking of his time as a Yank, i just like the guy as a good national league pitcher. i think he'll be above average again next year. not as good as this season, but still good...

[14] i'm probably waaaay in the minority on this and i certainly don't feel like debating it, but i absolutely abhor pot smoking. it makes me sick.

on that note (i think it was a Db), i am looking forward to pounding a half-dozen pale ales later, as i continue to pack up my apt! : )

17 RagingTartabull   ~  Nov 19, 2009 10:41 pm

[16] oh man are you in the middle of the moving process too? fun huh...

18 thelarmis   ~  Nov 19, 2009 10:59 pm

[17] yeah man. first time moving in 10 years!!! i have sooo much shit in this 1 bedroom apt, it's not funny. i'm making a really good dent in things though. i need to keep it up and get it all set. my plan is solid and i'm trying to keep it going smoothly. soooo much to do though.

the move itself is close. just 3 miles up the road. but the quality of life will improve greatly!

btw, you had excellent pictures from the WS parade - thanks again for posting them! : )

19 thelarmis   ~  Nov 19, 2009 10:59 pm

hey Alex - if you're reading: any way to go into word press and change the clock for daylight savings? i keep thinking i'm an hour late!

20 OldYanksFan   ~  Nov 19, 2009 11:22 pm

Developing News
Probably no opinions here?

21 matt b   ~  Nov 19, 2009 11:30 pm

Wow, this dovetails nicely....

Check out this oral history of the great under-appreciated teen rebellion flick Over The Edge, co-starring a very young Matt Dillon. I watched this movie on cable over and over back in '82 or so.


22 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 19, 2009 11:44 pm

[14] Is there any evidence that lighting up a joint impares your ability to drive? Just asking, I don't really know..marijuana ain't alcohol, William..

In Japan Lincecum would have been thrown in jail for 14days BEFORE being charged..they don't like drugs here. (needless to say, Mr. OK Jazz stays far, far away from such things here..I think many of us believe marijuana should be legal but I won't fight the law here, 99% conviction ratio in Japanese courts...shudder...)

23 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 19, 2009 11:48 pm

[18] Hey man, good luck packing! I got some live Miles Davis on today, from a concert in France in 1968(9?). Tony Williams is just smokin on this one!! He was unreal..

24 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:06 am

[23] 'sup, bro?! we're kinda on the same page - i'm packing to live Woody Shaw! it's a BN cd, from detroit, early 1986. quartet w/ geri allen on piano (she's killin' it!), robert hurst on bass (wynton marsalis) and roy brooks on drums (horace silver). there are 3 monk tunes and wayne shorter song, plus others. excellent record!

in my endless piles of crap, i found an old blue note catalog, from about 10 years ago, or so. there's a partial discography in there and there are a TON of cd's i don't have. noooooo!!!!! gotta get 'em... : ~

[22] man, i'd say YES. emphatically, it DOES impair driving, and a host of other things. lord knows i wouldn't wanna get in the car w/ someone who's stoned...or drunk. a dude in college once told me he actually drives better when stoned 'coz he pays more attention. he later got arrested for growing weed in his closet and selling it.

25 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:20 am

[24] Awesome band you got on there! Poor Woody Shaw, what a way to go out...

Man, Blue Note going to bankrupt you...

I personally would not drive when smoking (I don't like driving any time since I had an accident in college, havn't driven in 11+ years since I got here) but am not sure it would impair you that much...I think ganja gets a bad rap, I know it helps like nothing else for migraines..

26 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:29 am

[25] well, you know better than me, as i've never been stoned before! still, i'd ALWAYS rather be in the auto w/ someone who is stone cold sober. wow, 11 years w/ no driving is crazy! i didn't start driving til i was upwards of 20. down here, it's a disaster if you don't drive and have a car...

i think Blue Note already has bankrupt me! i never thought i'd get this bad. i really had no business continuing to collect after i lost so much work this summer. i need to ask my best friend, who's a psychiatrist, but i have a theory. see if you think it holds any water...

i started this kick last october when my grandpa got sick. i was a thousand miles away and felt hopeless and alone. one evening, on the phone with my mom, i blurted out: "i wanna go buy some jazz cd's." she said, "get off the phone, go to the store and buy some fuckin' jazz cd's." (yes, she cursed. that was word for word.) i had sooo much fun that i went back the next day, then a coupla days later, then hit other stores and the interwebs.

i slowed down for a coupla months, starting in june, when i lost a lot of work and when my grandpa woulda been 97. i've started up again in earnest, even though i have no money and he's been gone since mid-march. i had a plan to stop (god, i sound like a friggin' drug addict!) around now, 'coz of the move and address change - don't want anything getting lost in the mail! but, i keep finding more titles i want and it's...FUN!!!

i think, in a way, i'm equating this to being with my granpa, since i started this buying binge to help me feel better about his illness and decline. i haven't dealt with his death and can't fully accept that he's gone. perhaps, somewhere in my mind, continuing to buy these blue note jazz cd's makes me feel better. it won't bring my grandpa back, but i feel a connection.

that's good enough for me. at least my vice is safe, healthy and productive...not to mention, a tax write-off for me! : )

27 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:33 am

Jazz Tokyo:

you know what this is? it looks hella cool!


if you're out there, check this out - you'll dig it, man!


28 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:38 am

[27] Don't know it but going to check it out, looks great.

[26] That makes perfect sense, man! Don't need a shrink if you can self-diagnos like that :) Your connection to your grandpa and like for jazz, combined into that situation..sure. Are you compulsive in other ways as well though?

Yeah, 11+ years with no driving..would be happy never to drive again actually. I never undersatnd how people in the 'burbs actually do it..you can't get anywhere without driving, then you can't drink..what's the point of life if I can't have my one night out a week be a blur of Guinness and jazz bars, followed by me stumbling on the train home here in Tokyo??

29 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:46 am

[28] ya know, i used to think i had a decent sized BN collection. but really, i had goodly amount of titles from the same artist. re: a TON of Mobley, and a lot of: grant green, dexter gordon, herbie hancock, sonny clark, lee morgan, etc. the usual suspects. i've branched out like crazy and learned sooo much. the music is terrific and the collecting, albeit stressful - costly, no room, overseas transactions, post office, etc. - is a lot of fun!

one of the only drawbacks of moving, is that i won't be walking/stumbling distance from the pub. that said, i'm only 3 miles from my main watering hole, so i can cab it a coupla times a month. tonight, i'm just gonna stay in and pack. i'll head up the street Sat night, after me gig!

30 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:53 am

[29] Got to split in a few, some work then taking out some Australian friends in town. Good luck packing, and check this out when you can:


This album has become one of my favorites, the live version of "Unity" is just insane..so so SO cool, you have to hear it, totally unique big-band sound.


31 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 12:58 am

[30] dude!!! this is INSANE. we've definitely got a good connection going on...

i didn't know that guy you liked was a trumpeter for Sun Ra. check this out:

about an hour or so ago, i was going thru an old box from atop my closet or under my bed or...from somewhere. anyway, i found a picture of me onstage with Michael Ray - Sun Ra's main trumpet player!!! i totally forgot about that gig. it was Dec. 1998 in Atlanta, methinks.


32 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 1:00 am

there's a mention of Leo Smith there. remind me sometime to tell you about a series of Miles tributes he did, if you're not already familiar with them. unreal. when i got them, they totally renewed my belief in music. incredible amalgam of superstars. done in SF a few years back. tremendous recordings. Upriver was one of 'em. they're packed up right now, so it'll be a solid month, at least, til i find those boxes, haha!

33 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Nov 20, 2009 1:07 am

[32] Man..Leo Smith taught at my college when I was there..but I wasn't so into jazz yet and didn't know who he was!! Richard Teitlebaum taught there too (keys & electronics, and good friends with Anthony Braxton) I missed such an opportunity to learn from these guys!! Hook me up with the Miles tribute stories next time, looking forward to it. Ok, now I gots to jet...

34 OldYanksFan   ~  Nov 20, 2009 2:26 am

Anybody got the URL of a good Yankees discussion blog?

35 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 2:35 am

[34] oh, quit your crotchety curmudgeon act and follow the damn link in [27]! ; )

i'm still reveling in the fact that the YANKEES WON THE WORLD SERIOUS!!! : D

36 thelarmis   ~  Nov 20, 2009 2:46 am

[34] btw, [27] is a cool thing about cobham - that's why i linked you to it!

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