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If it pleases you, discuss the World Cup matches here. And keep us blisslessly ignorant desk jockeys informed of what’s going on. It will be a wild morning with probabilties of advancement swinging drastically with each goal scored in either game.

The Desert Foxes of Algeria still have a slim hope to advance. The, whatever the US is called, have a somewhat better chance, but nothing is for certain.

Scenarios for Group C are as follows:

USA Advances With: 1) A win. 2) A draw and an England loss. 3) A draw and an English draw while maintaining a total goals advatage over England. (currently US is up 3 goals to 1)

ALGERIA Advances With: 1) A win and an England tie. 2) A win and an England win and Algeria makes up goal deficit to Slovenia.

England Advances With: 1) A win. 2) A draw and a US loss. 3) A draw and a US draw,but England ends up with more total goals than the US.

Slovenia Advances With: 1) A win. 2) A draw. 3) A loss and a US draw.

Solely  in terms of US advancement, we are rooting for low scoring draw (0-0 or 1-1)  between England and Slovenia. Under that scenario, the US wins the group with a victory over Algeria and advances in second position with any kind of draw. If England wins their match, America has to win to get in.

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1 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:20 am

Can't believe US almost conceded in the first few minutes again. Did you see the crass bar rattle? What luck.

2 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:24 am

Robbed again!

That was infuriating. Dammit!

3 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:25 am

A US goal disallowed. England scores moments later. US is currently slated for the chopping block if these scores hold. Lots of time left though.

Good call or bad call on the offsides? Seemed close enough to go either way to me.

4 ny2ca2dc   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:28 am

Another stolen goal. Clearly there is a conspiracy to keep soccer unpopular in the US.

5 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:28 am

[3] Looked "level", which is not offside. Pretty clear, actually: level or better.

6 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:31 am

[5] Yeah, I've seen a few replays now, looked like a goal to me.

7 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:35 am

Oh, Dempsey! Oh, man, what an opportunity.

8 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:36 am

Altidore, no!
Oh, man, they just can't finish.
Oh, painful.

9 ny2ca2dc   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:36 am

painful miss

10 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 10:46 am

Love the Yankee hats on the US fans!

Halftime. Our guys looked better, for sure, but no results yet.

Still (too?)optimistic...

11 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:00 am

i'm torn between feeling frustrated at their finishing and angry at the refs. they've lost 2 goals, either would put them through at this point. at the same time, they can blame themselves for missing a few gimmes. we need donavan to strap the team on his back like the end of the 2nd game and lead them through the butterfly stage.

12 rbj   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:03 am

This is another thing I cannot stand about soccer: "offside". Put your guys where ever the hell you want. That's also a problem with football, when a referee blows a play dead because one side has too few/too many men on the line. If you want to stack the line with all eleven, and take the risk of getting burned by a reception, go a head, and if you want to pull everyone back and get torched by a running play, fine.

At leat baseball allows The Shift. You got a guy out of position? Damon will take that extra base.

13 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:13 am

could slovenia score vs england? that would really help take the nerves off our guys.

14 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:14 am

no left foot. got to use both. not world class.

15 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:14 am

[12] Compare the 3-seconds rule in the NBA. Sure, you could say, let them play where they want, but aficionados feel like it would ruin the game.

Oh, FUCK! Dempsey misses the easy rebound!! Not sure they 'deserve' to win this one...

16 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:15 am

screw the refs. this is on us. too many terrible misses.

17 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:21 am

Bocanegra and DeMerit are doing a great job cleaning up all the attacks.

18 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:23 am

Oh, a great, great move! Jeez. Unlucky again -- the ball just bounced the wrong way of the keeper's leg.

19 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:25 am


And then moments later, WHEW!

20 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:29 am

Running out of time, for sure.

21 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:31 am

Come on, Landon! This is your moment...


22 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:36 am

Donovan gets another chance... No, Bradley will take it. Oh, nice shot, good save.

Wow, this is grueling!

23 ms october   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:39 am

looks like they have less than 10 minutes to do something.

24 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:40 am

cmon guys, don't settle for coulda, woulda, shoulda. go out and take it.

25 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:40 am

Oh, the ref missed a red card foul, Dempsey takes an elbow in the mouth.

Very good run by Damarcus. That foul could have been red too!

Time running out...

26 ny2ca2dc   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:40 am

thats 2 reds Algeria should've received but didn't

27 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:42 am

Howard has been excellent -- not much to do today, but he's been in control.

28 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:43 am

I don't understand why Algeria isn't opening up more. Their chance of advancing is very small now, but they have no chance if they don't score!

29 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:44 am

Looking grim. I wonder how much stoppage time we have.

30 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:47 am

Damarcus offside?
Yellow??? What?

31 Raf   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:47 am

[29] 4 minutes

32 Raf   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:48 am


33 rbj   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:48 am


34 ny2ca2dc   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:48 am


35 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:48 am



36 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:49 am

Oh, Tim Howard! Tim is my man of the match. What a fucking beautiful distribution.

Oh, man.

Happy. Very happy. Wet eyes.

37 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:50 am

Oh, Tim and Landon, of course. Landon my man. He never gives up.

Stay cool, boys, stay cool.

38 ms october   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:50 am

wow - just saw the score!!

39 ms october   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:51 am

[38] meaning i just saw that they scored - not the actual score - soccer is mos def not something to follow on the internet

40 ms october   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:52 am

this must really burn the british (sorry, can't help it)

41 ms october   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:54 am

wait did england advance, that is what espn's front page is saying?

42 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:55 am

[40] They do advance, though.

43 ny2ca2dc   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:56 am

[41] Yes, USA and UK err Great Britain err England also advances

44 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:56 am

[41] Yes. They have a W and two draws, same as our guys. Slovenia a W and one draw. Slovenia needed the draw to advance.

45 RagingTartabull   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:56 am

that was amazing, I haven't gone that nuts at my desk since I found all those Subway coupons in my drawer

46 Jon DeRosa   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:57 am

ms october, england only needed to win to advance. They controlled their own destiny. But we win the group on total goals scored.

that's called "leaving it late" but it was amazing. all goals are beautiful, even if this one was on the ugly side.

47 Mattpat11   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:58 am

Okay, that was awesome

48 RIYank   ~  Jun 23, 2010 11:58 am

Love Landon. (Are others watching the postgame interview?)
A little bit trite, and he doesn't have a "passionate" voice, but so obviously real emotion.

49 Chyll Will   ~  Jun 23, 2010 12:00 pm

[40] Several of the crew members and producers on the film I'm working for are from Great Britain, including the Key PA who is my direct supervisor; I just thought he didn't like me very much with the Thousand Yard Stare he's been passing around the last couple of weeks, but now I know hat to blame... still, it;s gonna mean long nights this week.

50 ms october   ~  Jun 23, 2010 12:05 pm

[43] [44] [46] thanks - for some reason i thought slovenia was in a better position than they were.

anyway, what a way to win and advance.

51 jen   ~  Jun 23, 2010 12:30 pm

Re: "whatever the US is called"... we're called The Yanks!

52 The Hawk   ~  Jun 23, 2010 12:36 pm

[45] ha

53 edoubletrouble   ~  Jun 23, 2010 1:04 pm

does the United States victory in the 91st minute begin to show that soccer is an awesome sport to youse baseball rules banterers?

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