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Stop the Pigeon

Jeremy Bonderman vs Dustin Moseley and the ball should be flying around the big mallpark in the Bronx. Couple of days ago, my wife goes, “Who is that guy?” Doseley? Muttley?”

Here’s hoping the Yanks get the last laugh tonight.

Let’s go Yan-Kees.

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1 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:10 pm


2 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:12 pm

Jo Po wit da good throw!

3 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:13 pm

nice throw, Po! Now I expect you to pick up a stolen base tonight.

4 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:16 pm

That's plainly obvious.

5 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:17 pm

I'm not sure that's the approach I would take with Gardner...or was that on purpose in revenge for Gardy's "clean" slide?

6 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:18 pm

As soon as Gardner nearly broke that dude's leg the other night I thought things would turn ugly. Should be over now. Mosely ain't plunking anyone.

7 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:20 pm

Tampa sweeps Texas; MRIs for Arod and Andy; Things are no so good in Yankeeland.

8 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:21 pm

Whoot-whoot. Awesome, Teix!

9 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:22 pm

See what happens when Gardy runs. However, two run, first inning HR...

10 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:22 pm

Rocket Robbie!

11 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:22 pm

back to back hrs sure are sweet!

12 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:23 pm

[6] Guillen deserves all the blame for his own injury. Like most inexperienced 2B, they fail to realize that they can't pivot with a stiff leg while turning the double play.

13 seamus   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:23 pm

yeah baby!

14 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:26 pm

[12] I don't agree with that for one second. I know you are adamantly against the homeplate collisions. I think those are part of baseball. That Cleveland kid was fully at blame for his season ending injury. But Gardner's slide was fucking bush. If anyone went in to Jeter or Cano llike that I'd lose my shit.

15 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:27 pm

12) Maybe...I think Gardy gets some credit for going in late and hard and basically aiming for contact. Whatever, hopefully this silliness is over and the teams can get back to playing baseball.

16 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:29 pm

damn miggy can crush a ball.

17 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:29 pm

[14] We'll have to disagree, but apparently Jim Leyland said it was a clean play. Breaking up a double play is part of the game. Gardner didn't try to slam into Guillen. He tried to force him to leave his feet so he couldn't make a throw. Being an inexperienced 2B, Guillen didn't get out of the way. That's on him and the Tigers infield coach for not preparing him to play the position.

18 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:29 pm

HR Derby in the Bronx.

19 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:31 pm

17) managers usually say that the crush the catcher play is clean...that doesn't legitimize it any more in my eyes. Same in this case. So we too will agree to disagree here.

20 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:34 pm

[19] The crush the catcher play is clean because MLB allows it (even though it is technically against the rules). Sliding into a base is always clean. Unless you think runners are not supposed to slide into the bag hard on a double play then I don't see what Gardner did wrong. If Guillen was an expereinced 2B, he wouldn't have gotten hurt. 2B is the most dangerous position on the field after catcher, so players need to be prepared when they play there.

21 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:35 pm

[17] Agreed. : )
Although he also said he stood in there and took it like a man. So admitting it was bush would be.......womanly?

22 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:35 pm

That's such a well worded survey question: the most historic in history. Nice.

23 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:37 pm

[22] It's downright historiographical. And by the way, [3] Jorgie snagged a base yesterday, didn't he?

24 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:39 pm

No one wants to revisit this Jeter dp, but watch where the hell Gardner is where he begins his "slide." It's Ty Cobb-like dirty.

25 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:42 pm

[22] It's repetitiously redundant.

26 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:42 pm

20) i think Gardner intentionally slid into the fielder at 2B with no legitimate attempt to slide to the bag, hard or otherwise, i don't know if that is against the rules, though I suspect it is...but if it is not, it should be (in my opinion). And in any case, I think it was a bit dirty.

27 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:43 pm

Bonderman has an 87 mph fastball. Am I remembering wrong, or didn't it used to be a lot faster?

28 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:44 pm

[24] If you pause it on contact, Guillen steps toward the runner. Gardner actually makes contact with his leg in front of the bag. That's even more on Guillen then I originally thought.

29 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:45 pm

[24] The slide is also a very un-Cobb like spikes down. It looks as if Gardner folded his feet under himself on contact, which isn't the posture of someone trying to hurt the 2B. If anything, had Gardner gone in spikes up, like Cobb, he would have made contact before the throw was released.

30 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:47 pm

Unless you think runners are not supposed to slide into the bag hard on a double play then I don’t see what Gardner did wrong. If Guillen was an expereinced 2B, he wouldn’t have gotten hurt. 2B is the most dangerous position on the field after catcher, so players need to be prepared when they play there.

I think blame falls on both parties. Guillen set his plant with a stiff leg iin front of the bag, the worst possible way to do it.

Gardner went in very late *and* really high. He did slide to the side, but he deliberately hooked Guillen with his arm, high on Guillen's leg.

Guillen couldn't have avoided that slide with *jet boots* (though he likely would have avoided an injury, at least to his knee).

If Gardner had gone in merely late and had used a traditional "take-out" slide (i.e. going low to force the jump), it's not certain that Guillen could have come off his plant and jumped Gardner, but I think he would have had a much better chance.

31 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:53 pm


32 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:55 pm

[29] I knew you'd say it was not Cobb like b/c it Gardner wasnt' spikes high.
In any event, folding his feet under himself on contact looks to me like Gardner cannonballing into Guillen's knees. Dirty. Dirty. Dirty. This is my last comment on this b/c we could not be any further in our views. Now if Scutaro had been the shorstop........ : )

33 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:55 pm

Hi folks

I walked in to find that oops double ...

34 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:55 pm

It'd be nice if Teixeira is beginning a hot streak.

35 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:56 pm


36 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:56 pm


Teix *is* 2-for-2 when hitting during a rainbow ...

37 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:56 pm

[32] I'll let it go too...no reason we have to agree on it.

38 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:58 pm

[36] Well, he is Irish.

39 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:58 pm

Strikes called at the nipples, don't see those too often.

Just be consistent with those, Blue ...

40 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:58 pm

[38] Portuguese.

41 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 7:59 pm

Bonderman has been talking about hanging them up after this year. He's been through a lot in terms of arm issues, has money saved up ...

42 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:00 pm

[40] jk.

43 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:01 pm

[41] That's right, I remember that now.
Oh, good, he has money saved up. I'm glad he hasn't spent $40 million.

44 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:03 pm

[39] There were a bunch last night, too. I'm all for calling those consistenty. Just another thing that would help speed up the pace. It would destroy every batter's approach for a good long while, though.

45 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:03 pm

30) But if the fielders were allowed to wear jetboots, THAT would be awesome!

46 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:04 pm

[43] I wonder if MLB players are any better, on average, at keeping their money than NBA players?

It sure seems like you don't hear the same number of "player X spent all of his career earnings and is totally broke" stories that you do with the NBA ...

47 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:05 pm

By the way, did anyone else hear that Brett Favre is coming back this season?

48 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:05 pm

[44] Yeah, not calling the high strike has long been a pet peeve of mine ... though part of that is the ex-pitcher in me ...

49 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:07 pm

47) you just can't predict...oh wait, wrong sport.

50 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:08 pm

[46] They can't be worse.
MLB players seem to me to be no smarter than NBA players, and in some ways they're flakier, but they don't have the arrogance. Also I feel like the baseball system gives them some time between when they're professional players and when they have huge tons of money. (Though maybe not Bryce Harper.)

51 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:08 pm

[46] If true, I wonder if it's because most MLB players live in the real world until they make it big, while NBA and NFL players strike it rich out of college.

52 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:09 pm


53 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:09 pm

Uhhh ... can we just walk Cabrera?



54 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:09 pm

Huh, that guy Cabrera is pretty good.

55 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:09 pm

I cant understand why the Yankees keep pitching to Cabrera.

56 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:09 pm

"That's what I like about Moseley...he put the ball over the plate..." KA-BOOM.

Was that the brilliant insight of Flash?

57 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:11 pm

If the Yankees were playing well, this would be an 8-2 game.

58 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:14 pm

The Yankees may have the three best fielding pitchers in baseball on their roster.

59 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:21 pm

Quick, trade Pena!

60 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:21 pm

I thought tha Martin was not so much protesting by playing players out of position as he was rigging it so his best batters came up in the bottom of the ninth. or at least that's what I thought I read somewhere.

Meanwhile, Peña says: fuck you, monkeypants.

61 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:22 pm

Damn, I thought that was gonna be back to back triples.

62 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:22 pm

2 exciting ab's.

63 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:22 pm

Posada 3 SBs ..... Pena triples .... strange season ...

64 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:23 pm

Yeah, this can't make Jeremy Bonderman feel good.

65 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:23 pm

Meanwhile, Peña says: fuck you, monkeypants.

I'm afraid you're going to have to take a number and get in line ...

66 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:23 pm


67 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:23 pm

so much for the work Jeter has done with Long ... must have been Shelley Long ...

68 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:24 pm

I've always found Bonderman one of the most overrated pitchers in baseball.

69 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:25 pm

Put a tent on that circus!

70 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:27 pm

Laideeeees annnnnnndddd gentlemennnnnnn....


71 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:27 pm


72 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:28 pm

He would gladly have walked you, Rob.

73 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:30 pm

Get through this inning, Moseley, and the rest is gravy. Everyone loves gravy.

74 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:35 pm

Well that fucking blows.

75 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:35 pm

So guys, I'm in the middle of planning a family trip to Cooperstown and Cleveland. Anyone on the Cleveland area know of something a 13 year old girl might enjoy?

76 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:35 pm

No gravy for you.

77 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:36 pm

I said GRAVY, Dustin, aren't you listening??

78 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:36 pm

Do they seem to be doing more of that stupid throwing the ball back in this ballpark? I don;t remember it being as bad in the old Stadium.

79 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:38 pm

[78] I agree.
It seems like something that Twins fans would do. Or maybe Cubs fans. I don't associate it with Yankee games.

80 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:39 pm

Oddly enough, the Yanks' win expectancy fell only from 91% to 84% that inning.

81 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:40 pm

[60] He was making a mockery of the replay.

82 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:40 pm

OK, sort of kind of well done, all things considered. Now, Girardi, let's put Moseley back in his box for now and go to the BP next inning.

83 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:40 pm

I mean, that half inning.

84 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:41 pm

Dustin Moseley isn't a good pitcher. We all know that. That's why it is distrubing when you read Cashman say that he is doing a fine job.

85 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:43 pm

[75] I don't really know Cleveland, but no doubt she would like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

I took my three teenagers to Cooperstown about a week ago, by the way. Good trip.

86 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:43 pm

[84] He is what he is. I'd much rather go this route than acquire someone else's mediocrity.

87 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:44 pm

[85] We're absolutely going to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, although I have a feeling the adults will appreciate it more than her.

88 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:45 pm

That's my boy. Atta boy, Curtis!

89 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:45 pm

Hm. Granderson's swing looks different to me.

90 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:46 pm

[86] And I'd *much* rather being giving Ivan Nova a shot ...

91 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:46 pm

Granderson is like a whole new hitter.

92 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:46 pm

[89] Bat speed.

Is he 'motivated' when Austin Jackson and the Tigers come to town? I wonder.

93 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:47 pm

[75] Standard answer would be the RRHOF, right?

94 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:47 pm

[86] It's too late to acquire anything of value. My point was I'd feel better if I was certain that the Yankees knew Moseley wasn't any good, but after the Mitre experiences last season, who knows.

95 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:47 pm

[47][49] :)

[87] Is the Mistake by the Lake still standing??

96 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:49 pm

[95] No, it's long gone.

97 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:49 pm

[87] This may be of assistance; http://wikitravel.org/en/Cleveland

98 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:50 pm

[95] Nope, Cleveland Stadium stands in its place

99 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:50 pm

Bat speed.

And a much quieter approach at the plate ...

100 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:51 pm

[90] I don't have a problem with that. I said from the beginning that I'd much rather go internal than acquire some so so pitcher from someone else.

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101 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:52 pm

[96][98] I used to love watching Yanks games there in the 80s..such a massive stadium with no one in it, kind of spooky to play there I bet.

102 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:53 pm

Jorge is having a very nice game on defense tonight.

103 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:54 pm

[101] I imagine it was spooky, especially when the fog rolled in.

104 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:55 pm



105 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:55 pm

81) Probably, but at the same time Campeneris was on the DL by the August replay, and Martin had already made a bunch of substitutions on defense in top of the ninth. Did he have anyone to play 2B? I'm not sure what the rules are for replaying and/or completing suspended games, but Martin may have in fact been short players for the bottom of the ninth. his machinations allowed him to PH for Guidry with Oscar Gamble in the bottom of the ninth.

I'll have to look into this a little more one of these days.

106 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:56 pm

Is it asking too much for Joba to go 2? I already know this answer.

107 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:57 pm

[102] he is - very nice to see it is possible.

i'd like to see the ynaks give javy a summer vacation on the 15 day dl, call up nova and see what he has. then they can use him in this spot if he does well and mosely's lighting is no longer in the bottle.

108 Shaun P.   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:58 pm

[106] I was just thinking the same thing, though I was even thinking 3.

I suppose the answer changes if Joba starts giving up runs.

I think, as a 5th starter, Moseley is fine, but I'd much rather have Nova up and working in a long relief role out of the pen than Gaudin. You could also spot Nova in, if not for Moseley, for Hughes to give him the occasional day off.

109 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:59 pm

106) I bet Girardi sends him out for two. that seems to be his m.o. with his first reliever out of the pen when before he gets into the seventh/eighth inning chess match.

110 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 8:59 pm

Pena's swinging way too hard...

111 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:00 pm
112 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:00 pm

[75] If your willing to drive 90 minutes west there is a Cedar Point. If you're into roller coaster it's top notch.

114 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:02 pm

107) Is Nova on the forty man roster? Looking at the sidebar, yes he is.

108) whatever Nova's or whoever's role, Gaudin simply has to go. He's wasting a roster spot right mow, not only because he is bad, but more because he is simply never used.

115 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:04 pm

It's amazing more players don't mess up their ankles on first bace. I completely twisted mine in Amercian Legion one year. Ouch.

116 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:04 pm

[107] As not good as Javy has been of late, this team is in no position to run with two unknowns in the rotation.

117 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:05 pm

111) I already looked at that, but one would need to do a little more digging. Since the replay was completed so long after the initial game, the roster may have been different (e.g., Campy was injured, I'm pretty sure). Was mumphrey still on the team?

Anyway, I'll play around with this later.

118 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:05 pm

[109] The evil genius strikes again.

119 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:06 pm

OK, I was wrong...Joba out, Loogan in.

120 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:06 pm

[114] He pitched in a game earlier this year, so yes.

We run the risk of Nova not being used, but then again, since he's very likely *better* than Gaudin, if Coffee Joe knew how to handle him, he'd be worth using a whole lot more often than Gaudin ...

121 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:09 pm

I was just thinking (before the inning), "If the baseball gods offered me a one-run inning instead of Boone Logan here, would I take it?" And I thought, yes, but close call.

122 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:09 pm

[120] Nova wasn't used the last time he was with the team, may as well save the bus/plane/train fare.

123 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:10 pm

[122] Wasn't used much...

124 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:11 pm

[116] But Vazquez isn't really "known" at this point either?

I mean, WTF does this "dead arm" period mean?

And how likely is it that he's going to be able to pitch out of it while, well, pitching?

I'd rather a) run him through tests and b) give him a rest (if nothing nasty comes back) for a week or ten days and give someone that a) we know is healthy, b) has been pitching *great* in AAA, c) has good stuff and d) isn't a known quantity around the league a chance to give us a spark in a couple of starts (especially if we can manage them to be against a couple of weaker teams).

125 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:13 pm

[116] i think with pettite's latest set back it is clear that his status going forward is very uncertain. thus the yanks have to be prepared to use javy in the post season and since he is going through a dead arm period right now some rest might really benefit him.
i was impressed with nova when he was up, his numbers in aaa are quite good, and i think having him take 2-3 of javy's starts is worth the risk. if he does well, and mosely struggles then once javy comes back you give him mosely's starts. if he doesn't do well, then got to think of another plan.

126 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:14 pm

Kerry Wood has one hold?

127 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:15 pm

We finally get some runs and the bullpen wants some bedshitting. Bollocks!

128 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:15 pm

Curve would've been fine had it been a bit further out.

129 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:15 pm

kerry wood is much taller and leaner looking now than i remember him being before he came to the yanks (guess those pinstripes really work)

130 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:17 pm

[125] I'll say what I said when Girardi started over resting the regulars. We still have to make the playoffs. Getting people ready for the post season is nice if you're in, say, Texas' position. In a hot pennant race with two good teams on your ass, less so.

131 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:17 pm

big k.

glad the angels decided to show up some tonight.

132 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:17 pm

[129] =)

133 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:17 pm

[129] He also has more of a babyface than I thought

134 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:18 pm

Does Michael Kay care about anything but velocity?

135 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:19 pm

[130] i agree with that point, but (and i am still a javy supporter) i think right now given javy's struggles and this dead arm period resting him now is also a move that helps with getting in the playoffs.

136 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:19 pm

Nicely DONE Kerry!

137 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:20 pm

nice work there kerry.

138 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:20 pm

133) No facial hair rule ---> more baby face appearance

139 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:20 pm

[130] What's worse? Making the playoffs and losing b/c everyone's gassed? (guaranteed loss) Or not making the playoffs having everyone rested. I chooes the latter just for the lack of stress. : )

140 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:21 pm

"Hey, Boone, you know what would be fun? Let's build a fire here next to my dad's Camaro."
"Sounds cool, Kerry. Right here near the back, right?"
"Yep.... Oh, nice job, Boone, let me toss a couple of logs on too."

"Say, Ker?"
"Yeah, Boone?"
"Where's the gas tank on this thing?"
"Oh, huh. You think it might be right near the fire, huh?"
"Yeah, could be."
"Maybe we better put it out."
"Okay... Well, that was fun, Boone, let's do it again some time soon."

141 Shaun P.   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:22 pm

Its one thing to run Nova out there against Tampa Bay or Texas. Its entirely something else to use him against, say, Seattle. Or Oakland. Or (perhaps) Baltimore. The Yanks face enough teams with horrible offenses down the stretch that getting Nova work would be easy, methinks.

In any case, I can't see it happening, so we'll just dream some more.

142 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:24 pm

[140] I totally don't get that..but it made me laugh anyways..

143 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:28 pm

[142] Oh, well, they were flirting with disaster, horrifying onlookers... I hate having to explain my jokes.

Not likely that Teixeira gets another AB, right? Because he needs a triple for the cycle. (If you single, double, triple, homer, and reach on an error, what's that called?)

144 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:29 pm

That reminded me of
"Don't worry, we can fix this. My dad's a TV repair man. He has an ultimate set of tools." lol

145 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:30 pm

[144] is for [140] Oy.

146 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:30 pm

damnit - the ibb to load the bases just might work.

147 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:31 pm

Sox threatening, second and third with nobody out.

148 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:31 pm

[147] Beltre strikes out.

149 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:33 pm

[143] Made me think of this for some reason..


150 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:34 pm

[148] Lowell walks.

151 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:34 pm

[146] ah good - such behavior should not be rewarded!

152 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:34 pm

He needed that. YES!

153 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:35 pm

Oh, nice. There's more than one Austin on the field today, turns out.

154 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:36 pm

JD Drew in to ph for Bill Hall.

155 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:36 pm

I'm getting the distinct impression that Austin Kearns is a professional hitter.

156 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:36 pm

Jepsen throws a wild pitch, tie game. And now they'll walk Drew.

157 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:36 pm

Yanks have 9 hits .... 8 for extra bases ...

158 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:38 pm

[155] so far it's looking like a pretty nice pick-up, especially since he can actually play a decent outfield.

159 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:38 pm

Dan Nava ph for McDonald. Jepsen still trying to salvage the inning.

160 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:38 pm

So, this is the rare confluence of circumstances that yields a Chad Gaudin appearance.

161 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:39 pm

Nava watches two strikes. Papi is on third, so it might take a verrrry long fly to score the run. Here's the pitch.

Oh, he fucking hit him. He hit Nava. Sox take the lead.

162 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:40 pm

And there, Ms. Oct., is another IBB biting Mike Scioscia in the ass.

163 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:40 pm


Yanks need 1 more XBH to tie franchise record for most XBH in game while getting either 0 or 1 single ...


164 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:40 pm

Ok, now I really understand...Gaudin was brought in to hit Cabrera.

165 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:40 pm

Leyland's got a point. Stupid fucking warning on the 1st pitch.

166 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:41 pm

Kalish GIDP to end the inning. The Sox get two runs off Angelic incompetence.

167 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:41 pm

I really, really hope we didn't just hit Miguel Cabrera because he hit two homeruns.

168 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:41 pm

fuck off mk - you just said you can tell by a pitcher's reaction - now you are saying you can't tell.

169 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:42 pm

Damn, I wasn't watching. Did he hit Cabrera intentionally?

170 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:42 pm

[162] fucking idiot.

171 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:42 pm

Love the televised f-bombs. lol.

172 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:43 pm

167) if it was intentional, I imagine it had to do more with the first inning beaning, though the two HRs might have contributed.

Shut up, Kay...the ump is ALREADY mindreading when he issues the warning in the first place.

173 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:44 pm

when are we going to be put out of our chad gaudin misery?

174 joe   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:44 pm

You gonna read THOSE tea leaves?

175 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:44 pm

[169] i couldn't tell for sure either way, but i am leaning toward not intentional.

176 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:45 pm

Maybe if you let Joba throw more than 1 innning, Joe. ugh.

177 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:45 pm

173) tonight, or more generally?

178 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:46 pm

[173] Not soon enough ...

179 Shaun P.   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:46 pm

[155] He's working out OK, isn't he?

180 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:46 pm

[167] May be unintentional, Gaudin has no semblance of control

181 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:47 pm

[176] I'm afraid once you spin the Wheel of Bullpen Roulette, you have to keep spinning it ... otherwise, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria ... that sorta thing, ya know?

182 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:47 pm

Go get 'em, Dave.

183 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:48 pm

[177] at the time both - clearly we have our answer for tonight now, but it's time to move on from him. there are better options in aaa.

184 Shaun P.   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:48 pm

[173] et al - I'm thinking Igawa isn't as bad as Gaudin, right about now . . .

Damn shame Jason Hirsch just went on the AAA DL, or he'd be a fine long man option IMHO if they didn't want to use Nova . . .

185 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:49 pm

We need a good 'ol fashion triple play.

186 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:50 pm

Or that.

187 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:51 pm

Happy 100th Birthday beautiful old Rickwood Field!

And what's this? A winning streak? Man, I can get behind a fucking winning streak right now.

188 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:51 pm

you know fuck the ump for not ejecting gaudin.

189 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:52 pm

183)there are better options in aaa.

Indeed. i would go with Miranda, though I could see an argument for Moeller or even Russo.

190 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:52 pm

[50] speaking of Bryce Harper. I thought it was delicious hypocrisy to hear Steven Strasburg bitching about Harper waiting to sign to get more money..."Hey Kettle, it's the pot, you're black!"

191 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:53 pm

[189] :} (agreed)

192 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:53 pm

[181] Are you the keymaster?

193 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:53 pm

[188] Ms. October I donned a uniform and ALMOST got to play in a game at the 100th anniversary of the opening of Rickwood Field in Birmingham today, but alas the rains came....well, you just can't figure baseball

194 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:54 pm

[190] I didn't actually hear Strasburg, so I couldn't tell if it was bitching or just, I dunno, the party line for his team or something.

Good work, Dave, keep it up, one more...

195 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:55 pm

In Fenway Matsui works a 9-pitch walk of Bard. Runners on first and second and two out in the top of the eighth.

196 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:55 pm

Leyland is getting pretty steamed.

197 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

You the man, Dave!

198 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

[193] ah that would have been cool, too bad the rain had to mess it up.

199 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

That was some Alabama Slammin'!

Go Robertson!

Glad he's back on track ...

200 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

So, Robertson for two? Except he already has almost 20 pitches. Does BP roulette mean we get consecutive non-save Mo appearances?

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201 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

Well done, Dave!

And in Fenway, Itzuris drives the ball to the outfield, but right at Nava, end of the threat.

Well, Papelbon in the ninth, there's still hope!

202 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:57 pm

good work cleaning up chad's mess, dave.

203 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:57 pm

[196] What is Leyland steamed about?

204 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:58 pm

I'll be amazed if Leyland doesn't get run. Hopefully one more awful fucking call will send him over the edge. : )

205 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:59 pm

[198] I may get a second crack in October when they have a pre-winterization party game.

206 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 9:59 pm

[200] Mo's warming up, probably not.

207 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:00 pm

alright let's cut this shit out.

208 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:00 pm

[201] It will be interesting to see if the Roid Sux bring back Papelbon next season...with his salary + the way he's become unglued this year + Bard they might just punt on him.

209 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:00 pm

Haven't quite seen this magnitude of garbage. EVER.

210 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:00 pm

[206] Meaning, Mo's probably coming in

211 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:00 pm

203) he was mad about Gaudin hitting Cabrera and not getting tossed, then a couple of balls-strikes-check swings went against him.

Yay, another intentional pitch!

212 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:01 pm

[203] it's leyland - wasn't isn't he steamed about?
but mostly that gaudin didn't get thrown out - hell he should have been happy that shitbird stayed in.
guess lelyland did get tossed.

213 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:01 pm

"F--k that s--t" - Lloyd McClendon

214 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:02 pm

204) apparently he was already thrown out in a some sort of covert operation.

215 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:02 pm

haha more f-bombs tonight as the ump told leyland, "get the fuck out of here."

216 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:04 pm

Isn't this the part where Kitty rants about the DH?

217 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:04 pm

This game is not particulalry exciting right now.

218 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:05 pm

Tomorrow's starter is Porcello.
He plunked Puke 2x and started a big fight.

219 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:06 pm

Professional RBI from V-Mart. Halos still not out of trouble, as Papi walks.

220 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:08 pm

wtf did derek just do there?

221 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:09 pm

Epic fail. If Jeter was Cobb like he would have freaking plowed the catcher. He did have one thrown beyond his back. Real old timey-like.

222 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:09 pm

220) that was weird...he seemed to go on contact, but I'm not sure why he ran all the way back to third. I think everyone is getting a little punchy.

223 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:10 pm

The good news anout that DP is that it staved off what I think was an inevitable brawl in the making.

224 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:11 pm

[208] I'm pretty sure he's gone (Paps gone from Beantown). The only thing is, he may not be looking at a huge payday, after this rather mediocre season. So maybe he won't get a huge contract to lure him away. I dunno.

225 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:12 pm

So now Mo is lost for tomorrow. Gaudin is remarkable...he actually takes up multiple roster spots.

226 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:12 pm

Since the out was made at first, Jeter probably wanted the other 2 runners to go back to 2nd and 1st, in order to create a chaotic run down.

227 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:13 pm

[225] Yeah, I don't get it. Why couldn't Mitre pitch this inning?

228 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:14 pm

[225] yeah, ridiculous. mo should not be in this game.

229 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:15 pm

If Mo hit the batter, would the ump toss him? ha.
Game over.
All rise.

230 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:15 pm

what a way to make a livin'

231 ms october   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:16 pm

and that's that.

232 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:16 pm

Thanks be to Mo.

233 monkeypants   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:16 pm

226) complete with circus music, or better, the benny hill theme song? That would have been awesome!

234 RIYank   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:16 pm

[229] Yes, because he would know for sure it was intentional!

235 Just Fair   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:27 pm

Angels 0-9 vs. the Sox this year. boooooooooooooooooooooooooo
It does give me a modicum of pleasure knowing Scioscia's had a stupid look on his face all year against them and I don't have to see it.

236 jjmerlock   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:29 pm

Thanks be to Mo. The Placid Assassin.

You know, someone mentioned this a number of weeks ago about Paul O'Neill, and I've been meaning to respond ever since.

The criticism that was levied against O'Neill is that he never criticizes anyone. What I wanted to point out is that I think that is not at all the case - what happens is that Paul is so damn nice that even his criticisms don't sound like criticisms. But they are. I actually think he pulls very few punches. It's done in such an easygoing style, but the content is straight and honest.

And I think you can start to recognize what's underneath in his kind but firm commentary when you hear him actually serve one up with no varnishing - which is what we got tonight when he went after the lack of accountability of the umpires.

He's my favorite, and I actually feel like he is right at the top of giving me insights into the game that I just don't have, having never been a major leaguer. When I listen to Flaherty and Leiter go on about the art of "pitching to a lineup" and living off the plate, all I can think of is that I'm listening to a lesson plan on how to throw 300 pitches in a game.

237 jjmerlock   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:32 pm

Scioscia sucks. I hate him and his stupid team and his team's ridiculous name. I hope the Red Sox fed them some nice treats on their way out of town. Good doggies. Roll over for the Red Sox again. If I didn't hate the Red Sox so much, the Angels would be such a close second. But I do hate the Red Sox that much, so as annoying as Grumpy McWhinyface and his band of pests (that somehow have no taste for Red Sox blood) are, it's not even close.

238 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:51 pm

Jimmy's still pretty tight about the incident.

239 Raf   ~  Aug 18, 2010 10:54 pm

[236] O'Neill never criticizes? Michael Kay disagrees with you :)

240 jjmerlock   ~  Aug 19, 2010 11:00 am

And [239], you realize that I'm saying that he does criticize, it's just done in such a polite manner that it can be missed.

But yes, with Kay, I'm always glad when O'Neill is there to express bafflement when Kay mentions that he has never tried soup, a banana... what else is on that bizarre list? Kay was raised by some odd folks. No wonder his eyesight is so bad.

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