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Dat Bullpen Tho

Yeah, this pretty much had to happen; Yanks sign native Noo Yawka Adam Ottavino to a 3yrs/$27mil.  Cool… so…

Tell us how you REALLY feel in regards to the report that the White Sox offered Manny Faces a 7yr/$175 mil contract; not to mention his agent essentially going apeshet over it. Did it happen? Was it gamesmanship or something nefarious? What does it say about the state of baseball today, particularly in regards to the hard and blatant disconnect that exists fans’ expectations and baseball’s actions? Show your math >;)

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1 Chyll Will   ~  Jan 17, 2019 7:43 pm

Nightingale basically threw Jeff Passan under the bus in his rebuttal, btw...

2 Greg G   ~  Jan 17, 2019 7:56 pm

I like the building of the Bullpen. Midway thru the year the Yanks could also pull the trigger with prospects to land another good starter, if one is available?

This also weakens the Sox as they have less inventory to choose from and may need to overpay Kimbral. That guuy often looked like he was going to shit himself against the Yanks.

Maybe the Yanks swoop in and get Machado, once he realizes that his huge contract aint happening?

3 yankintexas   ~  Jan 17, 2019 8:26 pm

It amazes me how much short term success is valued in the league. The days of having to prove that one year wasn't a fluke no longer applies. Despite his numbers last year his last 30 games and the playoffs weren't good.

Meanwhile the guy who has a more proven track record (ie Gray) they are dying to trade. Oh well, lets hope he's not Kahnle Part Deux.

4 Boatzilla   ~  Jan 17, 2019 10:37 pm

I wonder if the Yanks will let Ottavino keep his number "0". I doubt it, but it would be cool. Goes with the new "youth movement"and shit. They've retired all the goddamn single digits anyway.

5 rbj   ~  Jan 18, 2019 10:23 am

I saw told there would be no math.

7 years, $210 million for Manny. Or Harper. At this point I’ve stopped caring.

6 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jan 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Still say that Harper is the way to go, if there's anyway the Yanks can get him. Infield depth is adequate for now; Harper is just a pleasure to watch: he works so freakin' hard. He's younger that Judge! Gosh - Judge/Harper/Stanton in the lineup might even give the Sawks something to worry about. The Nats are ready to go $300+ for 10 years. Maybe Cash should offer $30 per for 8, with an opt out after 5.

7 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jan 18, 2019 1:08 pm

I came across this article early in week which I found interesting. A few years ago I was 100% on board with Machado in Pinstripes. Now....meh. I am down more with Harper nowadays. Anyhow, the bullpen is better today. Nice to have some solid baseball news as the snow rumbles east. Stay safe, y'all.

8 Chyll Will   ~  Jan 18, 2019 10:51 pm

[7] Awesome find, and it supports the thoughts I've come to recently and hinted at in recent comments. Baseball is essentially in a revenue-sharing rut and needs to change its structure to stimulate competition. Otherwise, and it's not hard to see, you might have a few super-elite teams repeatedly going to the championships while also having several zombie franchises; teams that should be contracted for the sake of quality, but because they're making enough money for the owners and revenue-sharing alike, they are left to exist and never compete.

It will be interesting what the MLBPA chooses to do at the next CBA meetings, because if they let this continue unabated it will break them.

9 Chyll Will   ~  Jan 21, 2019 6:14 pm

The deed is done. Stockpiling more future talent. Cashman seems to be working on year five of the five year plan at this point...

10 RIYank   ~  Jan 22, 2019 6:06 am

I hope he's always thinking about every year of the plan.
To be honest, I didn't think we were gonna get anything at all for Sonny.

11 Bronx Boy in NC   ~  Jan 22, 2019 9:35 am

Tonight's the night. Wouldn't it be sweet, however unlikely, to hear some unaniMOus news?

12 rbj   ~  Jan 22, 2019 10:38 am

[11] indeed.

Glad Sonny is landing with his college pitching coach. No hard feelings, it just didn’t work out here.

13 Greg G   ~  Jan 22, 2019 6:36 pm

Way to go Mo and Moose. Mo is unanimous! Best closer ever.

Wonder if Moose goes in as a Yank or an O?

14 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jan 22, 2019 7:10 pm

Good old Moose!

My two standout Moose moments were when he had his perfect game in Boston broken up with two out in the ninth (by either Offerman or O'Leary, I think) and then when he came in in that 2003 Game 7 in relief (4th?) to wriggle out of that bases loaded no out jam.

And then of course, Mo.

Mariano Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.
Mariano Rivera.

15 rbj   ~  Jan 22, 2019 7:26 pm


Cool for Moose, too. Always thought he was a HoFer.

16 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jan 22, 2019 7:40 pm

[14 Hey weeping! It was Carl Everett I think..?

Mo and Moose..incredible. AB/Chyll, we need a proper post for this!

17 RIYank   ~  Jan 22, 2019 8:05 pm


All rise.
Praise be to Mo.

Prescient title for this blog entry, Will!

18 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jan 22, 2019 8:59 pm

Whoo-hoo! All Rise!

19 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jan 22, 2019 9:34 pm

Hey, Team!

Good to see you guys!

Just watched Mo's 602nd save: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDzYmAVdS4Q

Ends with my favorite thing in all of baseball, a Mariano backdoor, backwards K.

It still gives me chills.

God, but we were blessed to have him.

20 Boatzilla   ~  Jan 23, 2019 12:38 am

To me, the most interesting takeaway is that Mo is the FIRST EVER unanimous inductee.

Which begs the question, who are the fuckwits who didn't vote for Ruth, Aaron, Mays and Williams?

21 rbj   ~  Jan 23, 2019 8:56 am

[20] Crusty old veteran reporters who had to walk uphill ten miles in a blizzard to get to school. In July. And confound it, base ball is two words, not one. Harrumph.

At least the guy who didn’t turn in his ballot because he couldn’t vote for a reliever and integrity.

22 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jan 23, 2019 9:37 am

[21] Hahhahaah!

23 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jan 23, 2019 9:39 am

(It's also amusing that Moose and Mo got in together given how Moose bitched and moaned about how if Mo was really all that Moose would have had a couple extra rings.) .

24 Boatzilla   ~  Jan 23, 2019 10:49 am

[23] Really? Ouch.

25 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jan 23, 2019 12:10 pm

Glad for both.Mo is simply the GOAT. I think Moose got in because of changes in analytics importance. He's top 18 pitchers in WAR.

I'm thinking Moose will enter with a Yankee cap. He left the O's on really bad terms: one of his best friends (BJ Surhoff) was traded, when Surhoff's kid needed treatment at Johns' Hopkins. Moose was in his walk year, and he reportedly said "I'm gone" when he learned about the Surhoff trade (made, it seems, because of a personality clash between Surhoff and O's management).

26 Hank Waddles   ~  Jan 23, 2019 3:36 pm

[23] and [24] This came out in Torre's book, I think, and the complaint was specific to Game 7 in 2001 and the Boston collapse in 2004. I like Mussina for a lot of reasons, but that's always bothered me.

27 rbj   ~  Jan 23, 2019 3:40 pm

[25] Shame about that happening to Surhoff. IIRC, there was a west coast team who traded a player to another WC team so he could stay with his dying mother.
And was it the Padres who kept a guy on for two days past his ten year mark, so he could get the full pension?

28 Chyll Will   ~  Jan 23, 2019 5:38 pm

[16] You guys are way to quick for me; Ain't No Way anyone was going to wait for a "proper" post on this one... >;)

29 Greg G   ~  Jan 23, 2019 7:27 pm

14) & 16) Yes, Carl Everett broke up the perfect game.

I was at a party and was watching the game and everyone was in the yard. I kept reporting after each inning around the 5th inning about Moose's gem. By the 8th the whole party was inside and watching.

Carl was way over the chalk from the batter's box and essentially had his whole body almost in the strike zone. I hate that guy.

He is the guy that said that he didn't believe in dinosaurs because he never saw one.

30 Boatzilla   ~  Jan 24, 2019 12:39 am

[26] Doh. Have that book. A gift from the wife. But haven't read it yet, because I think Torre is a bit of a dick. I will try to read it this year.

31 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jan 24, 2019 5:32 pm

"He is the guy that said that he didn't believe in dinosaurs because he never saw one."


I remember that!

32 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jan 24, 2019 5:33 pm

[26] I just remember seeing some quote way back when in maybe the News? Or the Post, or somewhere.

It came across as not only petulant but in really poor taste.

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