Hey, sorry, I've already posted this, but I have to repeat it lest it be buried in deadtrhead.
Did anyone remark on the following unbelievable Jon Miller comment during the game?
Joe Morgan had pointed out that on a tag-up the runner can leave as soon as the ball hits the fielder's glove. Miller agreed, and claimed to have seen a game in which a runner scored from third on a foul pop that the fielder touched and then dropped. He said he saw this play.
I swear, Joe Morgan looked like a giant in the booth. He was Dustin Pedroia standing between two five year olds, towering over them like a giant. A huge, gritty, giant.
If Ted Berg is available, why have anyone else? He's Ted ****ing Berg!
[2] Joe Morgan gets a lot of hate and he is a terrible blowhard. But Jon Miller is an idiot and a clown of epic proportions. As I remarked to a friend yesterday, along with Phillips they are truly the three horsemen of the broadcasting apocalypse.
[2] i just found what you meant (this isn't actually the game thread). you're right that a foul ball not caught is a dead ball (rule 5.09(e)), but if it's ruled a catch and then a drop on the transfer or something, the runner can score. i'm not positive about what happens if a foul ball isn't caught but it's obvious that the fielder purposely bobbled it to avoid a sac fly. a runner can advance as soon as the ball touches the glove so that a fielder can't purposely bobble a ball until he's in range to make a good throw home. so what if a fielder purposely bobbles a foul ball? what if he purposely drops it only after realizing it's foul?
Damn, you're right, it's not the game thread. Oh well.
There's no requirement that you catch the foul fly; it's perfectly legal to bobble it on purpose. I think this is a good rule; I can see your side of it, but I prefer it this way. But really the point is that Jon Miller doesn't know the rule and made up a story that's impossible.
Via Peter:
YANKEES (100-56)
Gardner CF
Cabrera RF
Damon LF
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Hinske 3B
Miranda 1B
Cervelli C
Pena SS
Pitching: RHP Chad Gaudin (1-0, 3.71).
Pretty much a spring training lineup. Folks are in town, so I'll miss the game.
Hey, sorry, I've already posted this, but I have to repeat it lest it be buried in deadtrhead.
Did anyone remark on the following unbelievable Jon Miller comment during the game?
Joe Morgan had pointed out that on a tag-up the runner can leave as soon as the ball hits the fielder's glove. Miller agreed, and claimed to have seen a game in which a runner scored from third on a foul pop that the fielder touched and then dropped. He said he saw this play.
I swear, Joe Morgan looked like a giant in the booth. He was Dustin Pedroia standing between two five year olds, towering over them like a giant. A huge, gritty, giant.
If Ted Berg is available, why have anyone else? He's Ted ****ing Berg!
[2] Joe Morgan gets a lot of hate and he is a terrible blowhard. But Jon Miller is an idiot and a clown of epic proportions. As I remarked to a friend yesterday, along with Phillips they are truly the three horsemen of the broadcasting apocalypse.
[2] i just found what you meant (this isn't actually the game thread). you're right that a foul ball not caught is a dead ball (rule 5.09(e)), but if it's ruled a catch and then a drop on the transfer or something, the runner can score. i'm not positive about what happens if a foul ball isn't caught but it's obvious that the fielder purposely bobbled it to avoid a sac fly. a runner can advance as soon as the ball touches the glove so that a fielder can't purposely bobble a ball until he's in range to make a good throw home. so what if a fielder purposely bobbles a foul ball? what if he purposely drops it only after realizing it's foul?
Damn, you're right, it's not the game thread. Oh well.
There's no requirement that you catch the foul fly; it's perfectly legal to bobble it on purpose. I think this is a good rule; I can see your side of it, but I prefer it this way. But really the point is that Jon Miller doesn't know the rule and made up a story that's impossible.