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The Day After

After being embarrassed by the Devil Rays all season, including losing two of three to them at home last week, the Yankees were clearly a team on a mission last night in Tampa, unloading on the D-Rays for five runs in the first inning, knocking starter Doug Waechter from the game before he had recorded a single out, and finishing the night with a whopping 17-3 victory.

From one point of view such an outburst was exactly what this team needed to do: send a message to Tampa Bay that clowntime is over and papa won’t take their mess no mo’. From another point of view, such an outburst is actually cause for concern. Could it be that the Yankees expelled all of their frustration over a season worth of series loses to the Devil Rays with one cathartic explosion of run scoring and will thus lack that fire in the remaining two games of the series, which are every bit as important to their playoff chances? After all, hasn’t it been true all season that the Yankee offense has followed such a outbursts by failing to score more than a run or two the next day?

Well, no, actually.

Prior to last night, the Yankees had run up a double-digit run total in thirteen games this season. In six of the games that followed such an outburst, the Yankees scored fewer than five runs, but in six others they scored more than five runs (in the one remaining game they scored exactly five), twice scoring in double-digits again the next day and once scoring nine runs and following that with a fifteen-spot the next day. While it may not look impressive compared to the nearly 14 runs the team scored on average in their thirteen highest-scoring games, the Yankees have scored an average of 5.62 runs in the games immediately following those outbursts, with a median total of five runs. That average is actually higher than their overall season average of 5.39 runs per game.

It’s much more informative to look at tonight’s starting pitchers for an indication of what tonight’s contest might bring. For the Devil Ray’s, that man is Mark Hendrickson, who has made four starts against the Yankees, all of which the Devil Rays have won, with Hendrickson himself picking up the win in three of them. In his last two starts against the Yankees, which includes his most recent start of the season, Hendrickson has posted this line:

14 1/3 IP, 12 H, 9 R (8 ER) 2 HR, 5 BB, 8 K

That translates to a 5.02 ERA, more than a run better than his season mark of 6.06. But then consider what Hendrickson did in his three starts in between those two games against the Yankees:

21 2/3 IP, 17 H, 5 R, 3 HR, 3 BB, 15 K, 2.08 ERA

And what weaker sisters of the league did he amass that line against you might ask? The Blue Jays (who are an even .500 after defeating the Red Sox last night), the AL West-leading Angels (against whom Hendrickson hurled 8 2/3 innings of one-run ball), and those red hot Cleveland Indians.

What all of this goes to show is that if the Yankees do struggle to score runs tonight it has nothing to do with the 17 runs they scored last night or Hendrickson “owning” them, as he’s actually pitched much better over the past month against the Yankees’ rivals than against the Yankees themselves.

The Yankees will send Chien-Ming Wang to the mound tonight for just his second start since returning from a minor league rehab assignment and what was once thought to be a season-ending rotator cuff injury. Wang’s last start also came against Hendrickson and the Devil Rays and saw the rookie groundball pitcher surrender three runs on eight hits and a pair of walks in five innings.

Curiously, that outing was Wang’s best result in three starts against the Devil Rays this year (he surrendered five earned runs in six innings in each of his other two and took the loss in all three). The loss in his last start could be considered hard-luck as the Yankees did score four runs, one more than Wang allowed, but their bullpen gave up four more after Wang departed to put the game out of reach before the Yankee bats finally got to Hendrickson in the eighth (it’s worth noting that Hendrickson needed just 85 pitches to get through 7 2/3 innings in that game, which means that the Yankee runs were not the result of Hendrickson tiring, but also means he was alarming efficient through the first seven innings).

Wang threw just 80 pitches in that game, likely due to concerns over the health of his shoulder. With the bullpen well rested following Monday’s off day and last night’s blow out, I would expect the Yankees to again be cautious with Wang’s pitch count, so the performance of the bullpen tonight could turn out to be every bit as important as Wang’s, though it would certainly do the Yankees well to see Chien-Ming continue to improve coming off his injury and, hopefully, heading toward the postseason. Of course the latter will be less of a concern should the Yankees fail to pull out another win (and their first series victory over the Rays this season) tonight.

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1 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:18 pm

1.  All right, Jete's done his part. C'mon, A-Rod!

2 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:19 pm

2.  A-Rod The Rally killer! ;-)

3 tocho   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:20 pm

3.  I don't understand why Crosby is not on the field on a daily basis. I know his bat is not that good and he is left-handed, but he is clearly the ONLY good defensive OF of the team. He certainly brings more to the table than Sierra (he can field, he can run, he can lay down a bunt), Sierra only hits (occasionally) and is better as a left-handed batter.

I'm a Torre fan and like his managing of a team full of potential prima donna's but somebody should jump up and down infront of him and tell him to put at least one good defensive outfielder out there. Matsui is not bad but also not good.

4 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:20 pm

4.  Jeter better not have the only hit 'til the 6th.

5 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:21 pm

5.  tocho, I get the willies whenever Sheff does that one arm thing or when Matsui gets turned around on one...

6 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:21 pm

6.  Torre should be the director of human resources, not the manager.

7 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:27 pm

7.  BANZAI!!!

8 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:27 pm

8.  Matsui = Money.

9 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:28 pm

9.  Sheff runs like an 80 year old.

10 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:29 pm

10.  Whaaaaaaaaat?

11 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:30 pm

11.  Nice try, Jorgie... now blast one!

12 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:32 pm

12.  Come on, Bernie.

13 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:32 pm

13.  Wonder if Giambi could beat him in a race...gotta hope they can score more than one here...

14 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:32 pm

14.  Well, Sheff was running like a 102-year-old yesterday, so he's improving.

15 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:34 pm

15.  Damn

He did throw 33 pitches.

16 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:35 pm

16.  No first pitch outs either, but 3 LOB sucks...

17 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:38 pm

17.  K

18 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:38 pm

18.  Nothing wrong with that pitch!

19 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:39 pm

19.  Way to hustle, Bernie.

20 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:39 pm

20.  Bad camera work on my feed, did Bernie dog it?

21 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:40 pm

21.  Boras has said that Bernie would be willing to play LF next year. If so, why can't he play it this year.

22 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:41 pm

22.  He didn't really dog it, but he didn't look like Charlie Hustle either.

23 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:41 pm

23.  Give Cano props.

24 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:41 pm

24.  Robbie! Nice glove, great positioning!

25 Mick S   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:43 pm

25.  out at third?..how did that happen?

26 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:43 pm

26.  Wang almost beat Jason to bag!

27 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:46 pm

27.  Mick — Smash up the middle, Cano was right there and made a nice swoop. D-Ray (on second base) ran on contact, was a dead out at 3rd, and Cano ran him down, tagging him about midway...

28 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:47 pm

28.  Wow, one point away from leading the league in road hitting.

29 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:47 pm

29.  Not a strike.

30 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:48 pm

30.  Cano caught the ball at second. Crawford was headed toward 3rd, changed his mind and headed back to 2nd, turned and headed toward 3rd again. Cano ran him down and tagged him.

31 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:48 pm

31.  Grabbing that foul ball was the most competent thing Sojo has done all season.

32 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:49 pm

32.  This ump is on drugs, or should be.

33 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:49 pm

33.  Useless Info Dept: Jays up 2-1, top of 3

34 Mick S   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:51 pm

34.  Thanks for the recap...hard to follow the games live in Salt Lake, but this board is awesome.

35 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 4:53 pm

35.  Line out to Ruben in RF...yup, he caught it.

36 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:00 pm

36.  1st and 3rd, one out.

37 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:03 pm

37.  Bad AB, Mat.

38 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:03 pm

38.  Runners LOB is killing them.

39 tocho   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:12 pm

39.  Get some runs guys!!!

40 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:12 pm

40.  A-Rod guns out Gaithwright.

More runs.

41 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:13 pm

41.  Gaithrwright shows us what it's like to have a real CFer.

42 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:21 pm

42.  C'mon, A-Rod. Show us you're clutch! ;-)

43 Zack   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:21 pm

43.  Holy crap, Ruben is playing right tonight? What, does Torre intentionally put out his worst defense everytime Wang, the pitcher most reliant on defense, pitches? I know, Sheff can't play the field, but maybe today would be a day to bench him, start Bubba in right or center, and maybe DH Giambi? I know, he hits better at first, but still, this is Wang...

44 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:22 pm

44.  I don't want to see Giambi DH. Bubba was the way to go.

45 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:23 pm

45.  I don't know why Bubba's not in.

46 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:24 pm

46.  Good enough!

47 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:24 pm

47.  Clutch-Rod singles.

48 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:29 pm

48.  The good news after three-and-a-half: the Yanks are up 2-0, Hendrickson has thrown 83 pitches, and Wang looks good. The bad news: they've left 7 men on base and haven't broken it open.

49 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:30 pm

49.  randym77

Joe likes Ruben, period.

50 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:30 pm

50.  randym77

Joe likes Ruben, period.

51 tocho   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:31 pm

51.  This is probably only funny for me but my countryman (Mexico), Cantu has mariachi music as his into, a very famous mariachi song by the way.

52 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:31 pm

52.  3-2 Sawk, top 6

53 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:35 pm

53.  Trouble.

54 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:35 pm

54.  tocho, that is cool, must be the trend. There were bagpipe tunes at the Stadium before Flaherty's at bats...

55 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:36 pm

55.  How many f'in runners have we left on so far?

56 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:37 pm

56.  Oy. What is it with Wang and Tampa, anyway?

57 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:37 pm

57.  Time to kick Hendrickson's freakin' butt.

58 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:38 pm

58.  The artificial turf aided one or two of those hits.

59 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:38 pm

59.  okay, just two runs. Lets rock the shitty pitcher now. No big deal

60 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:39 pm

60.  Thanks Gary. At least we would be up by 1.

"I'll never make a play and risk an injury, I won't do it"

I thought your feelings were just hurt but I guess you were serious.

You can't hold Paul O'Niel's Jock!

61 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:39 pm

61.  Yeah, no more Mr. Nice Offense.

62 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:39 pm

62.  Yeah, nice pick by Rodriguez to end it too. Wang didn't get rocked or anything there. It's not so much that Tampa can't put some runs on the board, it's that their pitching shouldn't be shutting the Yanks down.

63 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:40 pm

63.  Second single of the game (plus a walk) for Sheff, poking it to right to start the fifth.

64 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:44 pm

64.  Mattpat11 . . . yikes

Joe already told the guys during that half inning that they reached their 2 run quota following a win by 7 or more. I saw Giambi tell him to shut up, and Joe said "prove me womg, I dare you, 2 run wonders!"

Rocket pitching tonight, his mom died today, I'm sorry Roger, that's like a month off for Gary.

Gary should be a pinch hitter, he's clogging up the works like a hair-ball.

65 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:44 pm

65.  This season Hendrickson has a less than 13 ERA against us. Thats not acceptable

66 JeremyM   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:47 pm

66.  I come home to find Sierra starting in right? Ugh. Crosby has had some nice hits and plays a good field, so of course he's on the bench again because he's apparently not a Torre guy.

I see we're doing it again against Tampa. Lots of stranded runners and no killer instinct.

67 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:48 pm

67.  Michael Kaye hs so much interesting insight from his long carreer spent toiling in the big leagues.

Toronto tied it up!

68 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:48 pm

68.  Jays tie it at 3 against Fat Boy, top 7

69 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:49 pm

69.  I have no confidence in Ruben.

70 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:51 pm

70.  BB

71 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:51 pm

71.  Ruben drew a walk! Bases are loaded.

72 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:52 pm

72.  C'mon Cano. Bases juiced. Hendrickson on the ropes. Another golden scoring opportunity...

73 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:53 pm

73.  Focus Robinson.

74 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:54 pm

74.  Ruben walked. You have to try to walk Ruben

75 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:55 pm

75.  Better take take take take, that seems to be the only way we can score.

Man, if we had 10% of the runners we've left on this year.

76 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:55 pm

76.  Clutch

77 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:55 pm

77.  Cano did it! 2-run single!

78 Nick from Washington Heights   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:55 pm

78.  cano!

79 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:55 pm

79.  Thank fucking God

80 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:55 pm

80.  Who leads the league in LOB?

Holy Cow Phil!

They're in!

81 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:56 pm

81.  Great time for number 2!

82 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:57 pm

82.  Hendrickson gets ahead of Cano 1-2..Cano swinging at the second pitch, fastball inside. I thought for sure he'd go with slop, low and away but he tried to bust another fastball by him (like he did when he gave up the RBI single to Rodriguez) and Cano slaps it for a two RBI base hit. Jeter flies out to end the inning. Five innings and I can't imagine that Hendrickson will return--he threw over 100 pitches. The Yanks have left 9 men on base so far.

83 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:57 pm

83.  Oh shit. Orvella has our number

84 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:59 pm

84.  $$$

85 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 5:59 pm

85.  Dude, if it says Ray's on the uniform, he has our number, they are all Channeling Finley.

86 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:00 pm

86.  Turf hit.

87 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:01 pm

87.  Nice stab by Giambi, who makes an awful throw, which Jeter short hops.

88 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:01 pm

88.  doesnt count any less

89 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:03 pm

89.  Oh boy, I'm out of Dishwashing Powder. I'm using Laundry Detergent . . . Wish me luck!

90 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:03 pm

90.  Shit. First ball that was really hit hard against Wang.

91 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:03 pm

91.  of course.

Crawford will score easily and we wont score again all game

92 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:04 pm

92.  For your dishwasher? Don't do it.

93 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:04 pm

93.  The Yankees are winning this game.

94 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:05 pm

94.  Proctor and Embee? Keep Wang in no matter what. Sheesh.

95 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:05 pm

95.  Should have thrown home.

96 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:05 pm

96.  Damnit. Damnit Damnit.

97 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:06 pm

97.  Give up the tie run, what are you thinking Joe? If I'm not mistaken, Crawford would not have scored there, thanks Joe. He says "playoffs" but I think he means "Pinehurst Number Two."

98 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:06 pm

98.  Cock-high fastball to Crawford for an RBI triple. Lucky it wasn't a dinger. If Giambi doesn't make that play...Cantu RBI ground out. Does ANYONE want to see Scott Proctor enter this game?

99 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:07 pm

99.  Crawford is now the one guy on that team that I pitch around.

100 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:07 pm

100.  Rich,

You've done it, Laundry Det.?

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101 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:07 pm

101.  No, only a fool would take Wang out.

102 Max   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:08 pm

102.  Cue that ominous sample from DJ Shadow's Endtroducing: it is happening again... it is happening AGAIN

I want Rich to be right...Yanks have to gut this out.

103 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:08 pm

103.  Alex,

I don't want to see Proctor enter the stadium, well unless it's called Legends Field.

104 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:08 pm

104.  Yes, and suds came out the dishwasher at the bottom of the door. If you have to do it, use a thimble full or less.

105 Zack   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:09 pm

105.  I assume Wang's problem with the Devil Rays is a combination of turf (when at Tampa) and a speedy, slap hitting team that is willing to put the ball on the ground and rely on speed?

That, and our crappy D...

And the fact that we suck against the Rays..

106 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:09 pm

106.  Hey, I wonder if Boggs is available for middle relief, he did a better job than Proctor.

107 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:11 pm

107.  Rich,

Good idea, I've got one eye on it, and a towel at the ready, I had a feeling it might suds up.

108 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:11 pm

108.  I was just about to say that starting Sierra today is almost acceptable because Wang is such an extreme groundball pitcher (if Ruben could hit from the right side of the plate, it would have been acceptable), but then the Seirra/Bernie combo yields a triple (we all should have put money on that, BTW).

And now that triple has led to the game being tied once again.

Meahwhile, Stormer, I can't imagine what you could possibly have against Sheffield, he constantly plays hurt and has been one of the Yankees two most valuable players over the past two seasons (with Rodriguez).

109 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:12 pm

109.  Giambino! Lets Go!

110 Zack   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:14 pm

110.  Sox up 5-3, Westbrook pitching a no-no against Oakland

111 Zack   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:14 pm

111.  another Ortiz HR

112 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:14 pm

112.  Yeah, it occurs to me that Wang may not be the best match for this team and this turf.

Wang hasn't been pulled yet. Proctor's sat back down.

Plain ol' hot water works in a dishwasher. Dishes get pretty clean even without any soap.

113 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:14 pm

113.  Cliff,

I know I know, about Sheff, it's a carry over from when I lived in LA. My apologies.

114 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:17 pm

114.  Josh fn Towers decided to pitch to Ortiz in a tie game?

News flash, Josh YOU'RE NOT THAT GOOD

115 JeremyM   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:17 pm

115.  So how many we gonna lose this game by? I can just feel it--this is just like all the other damn Tampa losses.

116 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:17 pm

116.  K

117 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:18 pm

117.  Clutch . . . thy name is Ortiz!

We must win this game, Cleveland, no score, but I wouldn't bet against them.

118 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:18 pm

118.  As I've posted, I would rather have Manny beat me than that Fat Dave.

119 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:19 pm

119.  K

120 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:19 pm

120.  That Tampa heckler is too much, I wonder if he is keeping an anthology of his best moments for sale on Ebay.

121 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:19 pm

121.  Nice.

Now freakin' score.

122 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:20 pm

122.  Zito falling apart in Cleveland

123 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:20 pm

123.  Jeez, Ortiz with another dinger. Meanwhile, really nice pitching by Wang in the sixth. Two K's (on breaking pitches) and a fly out.

124 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:20 pm

124.  Great inning for Wang. Now the offense has to get those runs back...

125 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:21 pm

125.  Did Ortiz just take the lead for HR? Anyone think that might affect the MVP vote? It better not.

126 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:22 pm

126.  Zito is so overrated.

127 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:23 pm

127.  Double for Godzilla!

128 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:23 pm

128.  Mat with a double to RF.

WE MUST SCORE.

129 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:24 pm

129.  MATSUUUUUI

Now knock him the fuck in

130 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:24 pm

130.  Hey look on the bright side, maybe it will go 18 innings, Joe will use up the bullpen, and he won't be able to use them tomorrow.

131 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:25 pm

131.  Po does his job...sort of.

132 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:25 pm

132.  KNOCK HIM IN

133 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:25 pm

133.  yankz,

No Dh is winning the MVP. I pray at least.

134 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:25 pm

134.  Productive out, I guess. Let's go Bernie baseball...

135 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:27 pm

135.  I saw Joe ask "how can we strand this runner?" shook up the majic eight ball and had a morose look on his face.

136 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:27 pm

136.  BB

No DP Big Rube.

137 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:27 pm

137.  Bernie walks. It's up to Sierra now.

138 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:28 pm

138.  Bernie! Oh Oh Oh, the walkin man. Good at bat.

139 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:28 pm

139.  Oh Christ here comes the GIDP

140 tocho   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:28 pm

140.  I really don't trust Sierra. Prove me wrong Ruben

141 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:28 pm

141.  Ruben is . . . . um . . . . due?

142 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:29 pm

142.  Matt,

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

143 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:29 pm

143.  just dont hit into a DP. Get it into the outfielfd

144 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:30 pm

144.  Green light him?

145 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:31 pm

145.  Don't pull an outside pitch, Robby.

146 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:31 pm

146.  Someone get Orvella a GPS unit. He can't find the plate.

147 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:31 pm

147.  Sierra with a multi-walk game.

5-2-3 DP now set up

148 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:31 pm

148.  I smell Juiceeeeeeeeeed basesssssss.

Can we pinch hit Giambi here, think they'll notice?

149 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:32 pm

149.  Cleveland tied up on a homer by Nick Swisher... no hitter, shutout and lead lost in one move...

150 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:32 pm

150.  Is it too much to ask Cano to come through a second time with the bases loaded in one game? Please put together a good at bat, kid.

151 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:33 pm

151.  No double play, no double play...

152 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:33 pm

152.  Bubba pinch running?

153 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:33 pm

153.  no dp, no dp no dp

154 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:35 pm

154.  Red Sox final...grrrrr.

155 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:35 pm

155.  I say you make him take, take

156 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:35 pm

156.  Why wasn't he taking?

157 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:35 pm

157.  FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

158 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:36 pm

158.  Cano worked a hitter's count, and got a good pitch to hit...dammit.

159 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:36 pm

159.  Cano had already come through. It's time for the Captain to lead.

160 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:36 pm

160.  I said TAKE!!!!!!!!

Pop up, Jesus Cano.

161 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:36 pm

161.  Well, there was no DP. No runs in, either. Shoulda taken a walk, Cano.

It's in Jeter's hands now.

162 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:37 pm

162.  Think Jete's will swing at the first pitch? Got to somehow get Rodriguez up in this inning.

163 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:38 pm

163.  Sure could have used Tino there.

164 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:38 pm

164.  How about a grand slam? That would get A-Rod up. ;-)

165 Sean   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:39 pm

165.  please score

166 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:39 pm

166.  Jeter has looked awful so far.

167 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

167.  Please not an out . . .

168 Sean   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

168.  YES!!

169 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

169.  Fuck yeah.

170 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

170.  Wow.

How 'bout them apples.

171 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

171.  YES! Way to go, Cap'n!

172 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

172.  Finally!!!! 2-run single.

173 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

173.  thank you

174 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

174.  There's a reason he's my favorite player ever.

175 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

175.  We are winning this freakin' game!

176 Sean   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:41 pm

176.  single by jeter, 2 runs score

177 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:42 pm

177.  Cough clutch cough ;)

178 tocho   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:42 pm

178.  Follow the leader!!!!!!!!!!

179 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:42 pm

179.  Way to go Jetes! Textbook opposite field Jetes! C'mon Alex. Nail em.

180 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:42 pm

180.  Jete!

Jete!

Jete!

Jete!

181 Nick from Washington Heights   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:42 pm

181.  he is derek jeter after all

182 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:42 pm

182.  159- damn right. Cano's been on fire this month- see nomaas.org

183 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:43 pm

183.  NOT Embree! Dammit Joe.

184 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:44 pm

184.  Ah, nertz. Nice breaking ball by Harper to get Rodriguez.

185 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:44 pm

185.  They're chanting MVP, and we wonder why their ownership said there aint no way they'll let Lou go to NY.

186 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:45 pm

186.  If he wants a lefty, why not Lieter, wasn't he lights out in his last relief appearance?

187 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:45 pm

187.  Stop calling Ortiz that nickname Spiro. It's for bullshit Sox fans.

188 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:46 pm

188.  Whoa. Wang's back out there.

189 singledd   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:46 pm

189.  Please.... someone tell me why ARod is batting second... and why the guy leading the league in OBP in batting BEHIND the guy leading the league in HRs?

190 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:46 pm

190.  I would use Leiter over Embree too.

191 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:47 pm

191.  F'in Gonzalez - but it was a nicely hit ball, on a pitch that caught way to much of the middle of the plate. Time to hold'em, Chien-Ming.

192 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:47 pm

192.  It's like torture.

Am I the only one who has a physical response to the word "Embree?"

193 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:47 pm

193.  OK, Torre woke up - Bubba is in the OF. 'Bout time!

Cleveland-Oakland tied at 3. C'mon A's!!

194 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:48 pm

194.  I thought Wang would and should be back. He only pitched 73 pitches and they don't exactly have a great 7th inning pitcher these days.

195 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:48 pm

195.  embree and sturtze. does torre want to lose this game?

196 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:48 pm

196.  I would bring Gordon in now.

197 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:49 pm

197.  we didnt expect to hold this lead, did we?

198 singledd   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:49 pm

198.  Stormer Sports.
You had a spelling error there. I think it's spelled m-i-d-d-l-e r-e-l-i-e-f.

199 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:50 pm

199.  Bad feeling about this inning fellas...

200 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:50 pm

200.  We will hold this lead.

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201 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:50 pm

201.  Wang isn't doing so well this inning.

202 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:51 pm

202.  damn this looks bleek

203 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:51 pm

203.  Summnabatch! I was all set to post about how I thought letting Wang face Gathright (and his .316 OBP), lefty or no - and then he chops a single up the middle.

Now its righty Lugo, lefty Crawford, righty Cantu. I see no need to use Leiter here, 'cause he's AWFUL against righties. Meanwhile, Embree actually shows an ability to get righties out, just not lefties . . .

Leaving Wang in is fine, too - only 73 pitches so far.

204 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:51 pm

204.  Christ

205 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:52 pm

205.  Bring Gordon in.

206 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:52 pm

206.  What? I tune out for like two minutes to write an email and suddenly the tying run is on second with no outs?

WTMF?

207 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:52 pm

207.  Posada's shoulder is still stiff. I think it's affecting his throwing.

208 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:53 pm

208.  WOW - was that a mistake, or a message?

If a message - the kid has a pair!

209 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:53 pm

209.  Where was that?

210 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

210.  Nice snag, Wang.

211 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

211.  Wang can field.

212 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

212.  I'll practically settle for getting out of this with a tie

213 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

213.  its not like Posada's been throwing anyone out in a big spot all year.

214 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

214.  Good lord, whatta nice, $$$ play by Wang to get Lugo.

215 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

215.  another Yankee game, more chest pains for me

216 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:54 pm

216.  Embree?

And people wonder why I think Torre is a an idiot.

217 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:56 pm

217.  Embree, the embedded Red Sox

218 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:56 pm

218.  Joe you son of a bitch.

Bringing in Gordon would say, "I want to win this game."

Bringing in Embree says, "I like my book of numbers, look at it, see the cover, my wife made it, it's cute huh?"

219 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:56 pm

219.  Yeah, Joe, I'm with you. Lots of pacing and a very tight chest.

220 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:56 pm

220.  OK, its an out. I would've been really mad if he rushed the throw to second and it went into CF - Cano had to get to the bag, Giambi was already there. Take the safe out at first.

I have the Rays' feed on Extra Innings - is there any chance that Gordon is coming in? The announcers haven't been telling me who's up in the 'pen.

221 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:56 pm

221.  Embree...Why not Sturtze? He hasn't pitched in forever, and these matchups DO NOT WORK when the pitchers suck regardless. If it wasn't so late in the season, I'd half-hope this would backfire. Not that it would have any effect on Torre's strategies.

222 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:57 pm

222.  Embree's in.

Cue required cano error in 3...2..

223 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:57 pm

223.  Prove me wrong.

224 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:57 pm

224.  For Torre, bringing in Embree says :"Damn, a vacation in October will be nice"

225 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:57 pm

225.  I then come-backer to Wang Sterling said said they had one of the lead runners trapped if would have played it. Anyone who's watching see that?

226 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:57 pm

226.  Cano can field.

227 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:58 pm

227.  Dammit. Hold. the. fucking. lead.

228 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:58 pm

228.  cant hold that run against Embree. If he lets Gathright score...

229 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:58 pm

229.  Yeah, Gaithwright was trapped off 2B, but pitchers hate to make throws to 2B.

230 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:58 pm

230.  The laptop forces me to sit, not pace.

OK, only 1 run in, now two down. And Cantu is a righty - Embree actually gets them out.

231 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:59 pm

231.  Hey Taynon, this is your life...wish I had more faith in ya, big guy, but prove me wrong dog and I'll go to sleep a happy man.

232 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:59 pm

232.  Hmmmmm, and the reason for bringing in Embree was um, what was it Joe, no seriously, I'm lost, tell me, what the fuck was it?

233 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:59 pm

233.  My wife is wondering what the hell I'm doing on the computer this late......

porn would be less stressful...

234 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 6:59 pm

234.  I wasn't expecting Posada to throw out the speedy Gathright. However, he can usually get the ball within hailing distance of 2nd base.

235 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:00 pm

235.  They said Crawford had a horrible record against Embree so that's why Joe used him. Of course this may not be the same Embree as when most of those outs were made

236 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:00 pm

236.  Gordon is the play here.

237 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:00 pm

237.  Except, of course, that Torre is now bringing in Sturtze. Sturtze gives me chest pains, the way he's been pitching lately - - c'mon, Pride of Worcester, please get Cantu out!

238 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:00 pm

238.  Bring Gordon in. NOW you moron.

239 Sean   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:00 pm

239.  geez, cmon sturtze

240 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:01 pm

240.  what the hell did Embree do wrong therer?

241 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:01 pm

241.  Rich, you're dead on the money. We shouldn't be f'in around with Sturtze here.

I'll be somewhat appeased if he gets the out - BUT NOT IF THE SOB HITS CANTU!!!!

242 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:01 pm

242.  what the hell did Embree do wrong there?

243 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:01 pm

243.  Good job Tanyon, you da man.

244 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:02 pm

244.  Guys, Sturtze is shot. All done for the year. Stick a fork in him

245 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:02 pm

245.  No one handles a pen worse than Torre, which is why I look forward to his well-deserved firing.

246 Max   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:02 pm

246.  I don't like Embree either, but if his job is to get a groundout, he's generally gotten the job done the last few times I've seen him...it isn't his fault Cano has made some nasty errors (though he did the job this time).

Sturtze, on the other hand...

247 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:02 pm

247.  Sturtze has been Quantrillized.

248 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:03 pm

248.  Um. Why bring in Embree and Sturtze at all if he was going to yank them both so fast?

249 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:03 pm

249.  Drills Cantu with the first pitch, and man, did that ever look painful. Hope he's OK. That's it for Sturtze. Hello, you must be going.

250 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:03 pm

250.  Embree did OK, but you wanted a K.

251 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:04 pm

251.  240 Embree actually got Crawford out, which is good - but his numbers against lefties this year are awful. That's my only complaint. I'm very happy he got the out.

OK, I guess Sturtze hitting Cantu wasn't so bad, as we have Gordon in finally.

252 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:04 pm

252.  We could have brought in Gordon two batters ago, right?

253 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:04 pm

253.  he brought in Embree for one batter and yanked Sturtze when he sucked.

254 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:04 pm

254.  Man, is this a "must win" or what ?

Yikes. It's only Tampa Friggin Bay !!

255 Zack   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:05 pm

255.  Torre should be ashamed of himself for turning Tanyon back into Sturtze...

He really has a problem with bullpen managament that goes so far beyond having bad pitchers...

256 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:05 pm

256.  Rich, you're right again - the K prevents the run. Around reason Gordon made more sense.

257 tocho   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:05 pm

257.  Cleveland up 6-3

258 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:06 pm

258.  Pull your fucking helmet up, maybe you'd see it! Who the hell are you, Andy Fox?

Oh Gordon you say, no way Joe, Gordon, seriously, he was out there, you don't fucking say!

God, I'm starting to hope you get canned. You see Timlin in that game the Red Sox won the other day, in the 7th, you stipid FUCK!

You're script is worse than Ron Jeremy's.

259 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:06 pm

259.  He clearly went around.

260 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:06 pm

260.  Yeah Joe, its "only" Tampa Bay - the team that's 11-6 against us this year. They ain't bad anymore.

261 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:06 pm

261.  Cleveland back in the lead -- 3 run shot. Today is not looking good all around.

262 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:07 pm

262.  ZITO sucks

263 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:07 pm

263.  Torre is a run late again. Moron.

264 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:07 pm

264.  Whew. I didn't want to see any part of Gomes, man. Way to go Flash.

Insurance. Talk to me guys.

265 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:08 pm

265.  Popped up!

266 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:08 pm

266.  Nice Job Gordon !

(breathe, joe ... breathe.....

267 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:08 pm

267.  I'd rather have Ruben Sierra managing this team. He did ok last year in that last game, hey, we won.

268 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:09 pm

268.  Giambi, Sheff, 'Zilla coming to bat - they should create some insurance.

Let's go boys!

269 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:09 pm

269.  Gordon comes in with one out and gets a fly ball and the runs scores anyway.

270 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:09 pm

270.  Shaun P.

I know. It still kills me tho...

271 singledd   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:09 pm

271.  Gentleman (especially those who complain about overworking Gordon)....
should the Cleveland plane crash and we make the playoffs, don't you think it would be good for Torre to have more then 2 relief pitchers? I hate Embree, but he is a Lefty, has PS experience and has pitched well in the past. We need to know if we can count on this guy. We just need more relief help then Gordon can provide.

Granted, it ain't pretty.

272 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:10 pm

272.  Giambi's overdue. C'mon, Jase!

273 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:10 pm

273.  nevermind. It was a pop up? Sportsline is on crack.

274 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:10 pm

274.  Joe Mcarthy you aint Torre!

275 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:11 pm

275.  singledd

My complaint is that Torre has often used Gordon (and Sturtze) with 5+ run leads.

276 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:12 pm

276.  How bout a blast, you're due Sheff

277 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:14 pm

277.  Mo in the eighth if anyone gets on Joe, don't fuck this up, I'd rather die with Mo than be poisoned slowly by Sturtz.

278 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:14 pm

278.  singledd, you make a good point 271 - but Flash does only have 6.1 innings so far in September. I want him rested for the playoffs but we gotta get there first!

Guys (and any gals out there too) - look how we all are now. My heart is racing, as I'm sure many of yours are. Imagine what it will be like if we do make the playoffs? 600+ comments? At the least, my wife will be happy - I curse a lot less when I can just type my frustrations here. =)

279 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:16 pm

279.  Shit

280 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:18 pm

280.  Rich,

I agree, take last night, 12 run lead and he leaves our most fragile pitcher in the game, but yet refuses to go with Gordon tonight, he's a lost puppy.

Again, I say Joe has dropped the bottles, and in his harried attempt to save them all, he salvages none.

281 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:18 pm

281.  Let's see if Gordon and Mo can earn their money now. Blanking them for two innings is going to be extremely tough unfortunately per history

282 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:19 pm

282.  True Stormer, Kay even made that point today on his radio show.

283 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:20 pm

283.  K

284 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:20 pm

284.  I think George should manage a game. That would be worth the price of admission. Shit, I'd be there for sure.

"180 pitches, get the fuck back out there, what, you think this is band camp mother fucker!"

285 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:21 pm

285.  Two

286 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:22 pm

286.  Rich,

Kay agreed with me? Let me rethink that then.

287 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:22 pm

287.  Three

Insurance run(s) please...

288 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:22 pm

288.  Heh

289 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:22 pm

289.  FLASH-He's a Miracle

290 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:23 pm

290.  Great job, Flash!

Now can we PLEASE get some insurance runs?

291 Max   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:23 pm

291.  Yet another fun fact about our matchup with our "nemesis": that was only the fifth time in 18 games against the D-Rays this season that we've entered the 8th inning with a lead.

And we let Joe Borowski off the hook. Gawd. Thank goodness for Flash.

292 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:23 pm

292.  Gordon's been great but outside of him and Mo the bullpen is pretty hideous for a stretch run

293 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:24 pm

293.  Gordon, thanks buddy, Joe owes you one.

Come on guys, who's with me? We should really get George out there for one game to manage, I have to see that before I leave the planet.

294 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:25 pm

294.  Man, Flash is pretty tough.

Can we get some runs please?

295 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:26 pm

295.  Nicely done, Flash - only 3 more outs and my heart can resume a normal pace.

NOW could we get some insurace, PLEASE?

296 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:26 pm

296.  Nice eye Jorge

297 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:26 pm

297.  I fear they may bean one of our hitters.

298 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:28 pm

298.  Bubba needs to play more...in CF, preferably.

299 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:29 pm

299.  I dare say Bubba Crosby has a hitting streak

300 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:29 pm

300.  C'mon Robbie... big night...

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301 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:29 pm

301.  They'll probably retaliate tomorrow, Stormer.

302 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:30 pm

302.  It's up to Capt. Clutch.

303 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:30 pm

303.  Nice hit Bubba!

I think if do retaliate tonight, they'll wait until the top of the order comes out.

304 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:30 pm

304.  Cleveland up: 6-3

Mercy me

305 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:31 pm

305.  Rich.

If I know Lou, they will.

306 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:31 pm

306.  OK Cap'n, time to come through with 2 outs again . . . don't swing at the first pitch, please!

307 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:32 pm

307.  Sigh. Cleveland still winning 6-3, top of the ninth, one out.

308 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:32 pm

308.  6-4 Cleve, Next years' Yankee center fielder, Mark Kotsay.

309 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:34 pm

309.  joe, I'm guessing you've got Extra Innings too - are you tired of these damn "AutoWay" jingles every time they go to the bullpen? What a night to have 8 relievers come in!

Kotsay homers, A's down only 6-4, still one out Chavez up!

310 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:34 pm

310.  Stormer, no offense, but sometime around the ASB, Kotsay signed a 3-year extension to stay with the A's.

311 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:35 pm

311.  Jeter walks. Bases loaded for A-Rod.

312 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:35 pm

312.  Just do it, Alex.

313 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:35 pm

313.  A-Rod is due...

314 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:35 pm

314.  Wow, that was so strike 3.

315 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:35 pm

315.  It's up to A-Rod

316 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:36 pm

316.  Um, not what I meant.

317 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:36 pm

317.  Well, that sucked...

318 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:36 pm

318.  Um, Arod, that was the FIRST FRIGGIN PITCH !

319 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:36 pm

319.  Really disapointing night for Rodriguez. 14 men left on base for the Yanks.

320 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:36 pm

320.  here we go

321 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:37 pm

321.  Shaun, I know, a man can dream, no?

I know you guys give me the numbers, is it only the games I watch where Arod lays an egg late, am I crazy?

322 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:37 pm

322.  The last three at bats for Alex were not good at all.

323 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:38 pm

323.  You are crazy. He's been a fine hitter in big spots. Just not tonight.

324 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:38 pm

324.  Now it's up to Mo.

325 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:39 pm

325.  Shaun P,

yes I have Extra Innings. How about the lame announcers? The only consolation that I have, is that my dad (die-hard Italian Yankee fan in bradenton, Fl is watching the same game/announcers that I am). Some sort of being a kid again thing there....

How about the cheesy way they sell the "call to the bullpen" and promote stuff that happens during the game ?

326 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:39 pm

326.  Speaking of next year's CF, I remember hearing Torii Hunter will be a FA(?), and the thinking was we could get him for way less than Beltran money, which is why we passed on Carlos... Not sure about Hunter's contract status, tho...

327 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:39 pm

327.  Alex, thanks, that's what I thought. I just needed some reinforcement before I became Skip Bayliss.

328 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:39 pm

328.  STFU Singleton.

329 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:40 pm

329.  Strikes, Mo.

330 BxSparksNYC   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:40 pm

330.  If you want to know why ARod isn't going to win the MVP its BS nights like tonight while Papi is keeping the headlines with last inning heroics. Of course add Peter Gammons and his soap box with the assist as well. Don't walk him Mo

331 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:40 pm

331.  Alex, just curious... why do you type "Rodriguez" instead of AROD ?

332 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:40 pm

332.  K

333 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

333.  2 left

334 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

334.  Nice K - how about 2 more (and keep shooting for the CY Young....

335 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

335.  Way to go Mo, coming back down 3-1 and blowing Gonzalez away. 1 down.

336 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

336.  huge strike Mo

337 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

337.  I'm not sure about Tori Hunter's status, but my gut tells me he doesn't want to play for us. Further, Cashman made the right call on Beltran, props to Brian there!

338 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

338.  Have not check the roster lately — did we bring up Melky?

339 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

339.  oh shit. Yankee killer

340 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:41 pm

340.  Hunter has a .321 career OPB, which is better than Pierre, and he is much better defensively, but still.

341 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:42 pm

341.  We could have countered with Beltran for five years at $75. He might have said yes.

342 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:42 pm

342.  Seriously. Did anyone think Bernie and Beltran's offensive numbers would be even this close?

343 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:43 pm

343.  Beltran had an off year. He'll bounce back.

344 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:43 pm

344.  I'm a big Melky supporter, I had buttons and pins made, want one?

And noooooo, we did not. Did he do something or say something while he was up? He fell faster than Sun Microsystems.

345 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:43 pm

345.  Bxsparksnyc-

I agree on Gammons. I'm a little down on him - his site is now a "pay" (Insider) site on ESPN.... I mean , c'mon.

I'm babbling now, I realize it. Too nervous to watch the game...so I'm just typing.....

346 singledd   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:43 pm

346.  Cleveland wins

347 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:44 pm

347.  Beltran aint worth that kind of money, uh uh, no no, no way, 9 mil./per. max!

348 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:44 pm

348.  Sit down fat man. 2 out.

349 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:44 pm

349.  K

350 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:45 pm

350.  Only one more to go, Mo!

351 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:45 pm

351.  One more to go Mo

352 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:45 pm

352.  Thanks, Storm... maybe they don't want to "over-expose" him for trade bait in the offseason...

353 Schteeve   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:45 pm

353.  We would have given Beltran too much money and too many years. I'm glad we didn't.

354 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:46 pm

354.  Joe in Boston,

Hey, Gammons made the Hall, time to cash in, he's low on Scotch. He is setting up a booth next to Pete's next year I hear.

Is it seriously a pay portion?

355 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:46 pm

355.  Melky's stats at Trenton aren't bad. He's only like 20:

.275/.322./.411

356 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:46 pm

356.  Not good.

357 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

357.  Walks Lugo.

358 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

358.  I'm not sure that last pitch was a ball - time to get Carl out, Mo, and let us all go to sleep.

359 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

359.  If not Belran, then who? And how many prospects have to be burned to get him?

360 no2ss   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

360.  Nice way to end the game.

361 Sean   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

361.  YEA, Thuuu Yankeees win

362 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

362.  Woo-hooo!

363 jkay   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

363.  Dumb Rays

364 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:47 pm

364.  Dead

365 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:48 pm

365.  What a relief

366 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:48 pm

366.  NICE THROW, POSADA!

We beat the Rays for a series!

George is smiling tonight. As we all are. =)

367 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:49 pm

367.  This team has turned the corner just in time. Get ready for a torrid run to the playoffs and beyond.

368 BklynBomber   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:49 pm

368.  Now, that was sweeeeeeeeeeeet! Mad kudos to whoever signaled that pitch-out!

2.5 and holding...

369 Zack   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:49 pm

369.  Wow, approaching 400 again!

370 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:49 pm

370.  Look at Beltran's numbers carreer, he just isn't worth it, even with the defense and SB's. There are good defensive Center Fielders, he's not Andruw Jones, compare those guys, then decide how much Beltran is worth, his tennis ball pitching machine notwithstanding.

371 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:49 pm

371.  As Mel Allen would say, "How about that?" Lugo caught stealing--Yanks pitched out--on the first offering to Crawford.

Wow. Well, no matter how poorly Giambi and A Rod did tonight, no matter how many runners were left on base, a win is a win is a win.

Very important victory. Nice following it with ya, guys. See you in the a.m.

372 Max   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:49 pm

372.  YEAH! 20 games over .500 and the first series win against these clowns all year...I'll take it.

373 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:50 pm

373.  Rich, there had to be someone who could put up shitty numbers and good defense without paying them 75-100 million

374 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:50 pm

374.  There we go, a close win for the old psyche!

375 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:51 pm

375.  joe in boston - my folks still live in upstate NY, so they get YES - its hard talking on the phone with my dad during a game, as he's always a few seconds ahead of me! =)

BTW, off topic, but did anyone notice how well Clemens pitched tonight, considering his mom died this morning? I miss the big lug, and am glad to see him do so well. I feel privileged to have watched the best pitcher since WWII - maybe the best ever - wear pinstripes.

376 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:51 pm

376.  Stormer - yeah, it is. Too bad.

Hey, what a win ! G'night all

377 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:51 pm

377.  I'm sure Torre called for the pitch out. I guess he can do something right every once in a while...; )

378 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:51 pm

378.  Beltran was worth $75 million over five years. They Yankees should have made him reject that offer.

379 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:51 pm

379.  Later fellas.

380 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:51 pm

380.  If Torre called it, kudos to him.

381 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:52 pm

381.  Hey Shaun P - where in Upstate ? I'm from Burnt hills (outside of schenectady...

Good Yankee/Giants/Knicks/Rangers territory - in that order too !

382 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:52 pm

382.  Give that one to Torre for the pitch out , Posada for the throw, and the Rays for a gamble that failed

383 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:52 pm

383.  Matt, That's just year one. I don't want to trade Duncan for Pierre or sign Damon for big money for four years.

384 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:52 pm

384.  And good point about Roger. Got to feel good for the Rocket on a day when he must be hurtin. Thank goodness his team actually scored some runs for him.

385 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:53 pm

385.  Shaun,

Strike zoone shrunk, mound lowered, fences in, hitters juiced and more athletic --Clemens is the best ever!

386 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:54 pm

386.  joe, I'm from Utica, my wife's folks live in Cazenovia - and we both went to Union, to complete the upstate trifecta. =)

Where do you live out here? We're in Medway (not too far from Foxboro)

387 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:54 pm

387.  Another near classic. For the Yankee's it's as important as a play off game

388 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:55 pm

388.  Rich, his career numbers aren't worth anything he was asking either.

I would cap it at 10 mil a year on beltran

389 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:56 pm

389.  FWIW, I love upstate NY (especially Ithaca), except for the snow.

390 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:56 pm

390.  I heart Mo.

391 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:56 pm

391.  Shaun P -

North Andover. I went to Siena, had a friend from Cazenovia - Ken Hergert - class of '84. At least in Medway, you can probably hear FAN for some Yankee talk. I'm stuck with Red Sox propaganda on WEEI. It was so good for so long listening to that crap (at least until last year....) We always had the upper hand. Oh well.

392 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:57 pm

392.  Utica - home of the greatest road race -

the Utica Boilermaker....

393 Rich   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:58 pm

393.  He's still only 28, Matt, and he spent the early part of his career in the majors when he should have still been in the minors, which skewed his career stats.

We can't fully assess it until we see the price paid in money and players (if any) for the next CFer.

394 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 7:59 pm

394.  Well it'll be intersting if Boston loses a little bit of edge with 2 center fielders probably out at the moment

395 rilkefan   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:01 pm

395.  "FWIW, I love upstate NY (especially Ithaca)"

Cornell, class of '89, physics and math. I even miss the snow, surprisingly enough.

396 Shaun P   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:01 pm

396.  joe, many people I went to high school with went to Siena. A very nice school.

And yes, I get WFAN and WCBS out here, at least with clear weather. Much better than 'EEI.

The good old Boilermaker - I'm guessing you've run it? I run it while I was in college and law school, but not since - always busy now in July. =)

397 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:02 pm

397.  What I remember about Upstate NY Winters is the grey sky for, say, about 4.5 months. The sun NEVER seemed to shine ....

398 joe in boston   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:03 pm

398.  Shaun P -

Ran it about 7 years ago. Lots of fun. Local bands at every mile mark, great crowds, and LOTS of free beer at the end...

good times, good times.

399 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:04 pm

399.  I wished WFAN streamed on the internet. No interesting Yankees talk out of town.

400 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:08 pm

400.  Wow, lots of people from upstate NY. I'm originally from Hawaii, but came to NY to go to college. (RPI, in Troy.) Ended up staying. And becoming a Yankee fan. :-)

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401 Stormer Sports   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:11 pm

401.  Not jump back in but I grew up in New Paltz and went to SUNY Buffalo, you think Ithica was bad, yikes!

It's the all upstate team.

402 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:11 pm

402.  Torre says he didn't call the pitch out. He says it was either Mel or Jorgie.

403 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:19 pm

403.  I'm from upstate. Don't live there anymore though.

404 randym77   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:22 pm

404.  I'm still upstate, but not as far upstate as I used to be. I'm in Poughkeepsie now. Across the river from Stormer's old stomping grounds.

405 marc   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:23 pm

405.  yeah, Torre said all the pitch- out's called by Mel. One thing about Torre and Cashman these are the most honest guys who usually don't take credit for anything. Torre will always give it to someone else instead of stealing credit like others might and Cashhman the same where people want to give him credit for Small or Chacon and he just says he had no idea what they were going to get, he just figured he needed someone so he'll see how it works and he got lucky.

406 yankz   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:31 pm

406.  randym- I was born in Poughkeepsie.

407 Schteeve   ~  Sep 14, 2005 8:36 pm

407.  I used to date a girl from Modena. Apple country. Good times.

408 mikeplugh   ~  Sep 15, 2005 3:34 am

408.  I went to Jr. High in Woodstock, high school and college in Poughkeepsie. Po-town.

After that strictly NYC, but I hope to move back the the Husdon Valley when I decide to come back from Japan.

My old stomping grounds.

409 Alex Belth   ~  Sep 15, 2005 2:16 pm

409.  I went to college at SUNY New Paltz...

410 randym77   ~  Sep 15, 2005 2:23 pm

410.  Ever go to that ice cream store in Red Hook (just north of Rhinebeck), called Holy Cow? Haven't been there for years, so I don't know if it's still the same. But it used to have excellent homemade ice cream. And an autographed photo of Phil Rizzuto on the wall.

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