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Baltimore Orioles VI: Bambi vs. Godzilla

The Yankees are 12-3 against the Orioles this year and 12-1 against them since the third day of the season. Last week, the Yanks swept the O’s in a three-game series in Baltimore, outscoring them 24-9. The Yankees now welcome the Orioles to the Bronx having just swept the third-place Rays in four games amid one of the most dominant second-half runs in major league history. The O’s are 12-25 (.324) since the trading deadline and have won just two of their last eight stretching back through that last series against the Yankees.

What makes this series different, other than its location, is that the Yankees get their first look at the O’s two young starting prospects, Chris Tillman and Brian Matusz, who start tonight and tomorrow. Tillman is a tall, skinny, 21-year-old righty who came over in the Erik Bedard trade. Matusz is an equally tall (though not as skinny), 22-year-old lefty who was drafted out of college with the fourth overall pick last year. Neither has had much success in the majors thus far, but they, along with catcher Matt Wieters and outfielders Nick Markakis, Adam Jones (currently on the DL with a bad back), and to a lesser degree Nolan Riemold, should be thorns in the Yankees’ side for years to come. Thus far, Matusz, the polished college product has had more success, though per my man Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus, Tillman remains the better prospect and a potential ace.

Taking on Tillman tonight (weather permitting, and it don’t look good) is Andy Pettitte, who has been ace-like himself in the second half, going 5-1 with a 2.88 ERA while the Yankees have won his last seven starts. Johnny Damon sits out the bad weather with a stiff back. Melky’s in left with Gardner in center, those two hits 8th and 9th. Swisher hits 2nd.

Baltimore Orioles

2009 Record: 56-83 (.403)
2009 Pythagorean Record: 60-79 (.432)

Manager: Dave Trembley
General Manager: Andy MacPhail

Home Ballpark (multi-year Park Factors): Oriole Park at Camden Yards (103/104)

Who’s Replaced Whom:

  • Jeffrey Fiorentino (minors) has replaced Adam Jones (DL)
  • September additions: Justin Turner (IF), Guillermo Rodriguez (C), Dennis Sarfate (RHP-DL), Matt Albers (RHP), Bob McCrory (RHP), Chris Waters (LHP), Alberto Castillo (LHP), Sean Henn (LHP)

25-man Roster:

1B – Ty Wigginton (R)
2B – Brian Roberts (S)
SS – Cesar Izturis (S)
3B – Melvin Mora (R)
C – Matt Wieters (R)
RF – Nick Markakis (L)
CF – Felix Pie (L)
LF – Nolan Reimold (L)
DH – Luke Scott (L)


L – Michael Aubrey (1B)
R – Robert Andino (IF)
R – Chad Moeller (C)
L – Jeffrey Fiorentio (OF)
R – Justin Turner (IF)
R – Guillermo Rodriguez (C)


R – Jeremy Guthrie
R – David Hernandez
R – Jason Berken
R – Chris Tillman
L – Brian Matusz


R – Jim Johnson
R – Danys Baez
R – Chris Ray
R – Brian Bass
R – Cla Meredith
R – Kam Mickolio
L – Mark Hendrickson
R – Dennis Sarfate
R – Matt Albers
L – Chris Waters
L – Alberto Castillo
L – Sean Henn

15-day DL: CF – Adam Jones (back), RHP – Koji Uehara (torn elbow tendon)

60-day DL: OF – Luis Montanez (torn thumb ligament), RHP – Brad Bergesen (shin bruise), LHP – Rich Hill (torn labrum), RHP – Alfredo Simon (elbow ligament surgery)

Typical lineup:

S – Brian Roberts (2B)
L – Felix Pie (CF)
R – Nolan Reimold (LF)
L – Nick Markakis (RF)
R – Melvin Mora (3B)
R – Matt Wieters (C)
L – Luke Scott (DH)
R – Ty Wigginton (1B)
S – Cesar Izturis (SS)

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1 Shaun P.   ~  Sep 11, 2009 5:30 pm

Wasn't Michael Aubrey once a high-touted Indians prospect?

And speaking of former prospects, I wonder if Sean Henn will get to pitch in this series?

2 oifigginphoist   ~  Sep 11, 2009 6:25 pm

Whats up folks?
New to the banter community, just wanted to share the link. The title of the post reminded me very much of watching Godzilla with my dad when I was younger. One of his old movies we had was prefaced by the short "Bambi meets Godzilla". Good stuff.

Weather-wise its dismal here in VT, heard it wasn't much different down there in NYC. But if it goes on, enjoy the game tonight. I won't get to watch it, all the bars have NESN via cable up here. Go Yanks!

3 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 6:28 pm

Yankees are a juggernaut, the Orioles are patsies. Which is why I worry about losing the series.

As for the weather, on today, even The Sky is Crying

4 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 6:29 pm

[2] Welcome to the Banter! Good clip.

5 Diane Firstman   ~  Sep 11, 2009 6:34 pm

I'm at the stadium now .... The warning track is a quagmire. Don't think they should play but you know they'll wait 3 hours.

6 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 6:35 pm

[2] yes welcome.

yeah might be tough to get this puppy in - too bad.
and old friend chad moeller (aka your 7th grade chemistry teacher) is in the o's lineup tonight.

7 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 11, 2009 6:50 pm

[1] Yes he was, but he had trouble staying healthy, I believe a bad back was the primary problem.

8 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:03 pm

YES in Official Rain-Delay Programming (Yankeeography)...

9 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:08 pm

Rain-delay..oh well, Seattle-Texas on tv in an hour here (yawn....)

Why is it that even with different managers and a very new roster filled with young go-getters, the Orioles continually bomb in the 2nd half of the season? It's bizarre...

10 The Hawk   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:26 pm

Fire Girardi.

11 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:27 pm

Dang, I so want a nap, and then, I don't want to miss a Jeter at bat. I need an alarm that will go off if they actually play.

Then again, thanks to mlb's ridiculous black out rules and the criminal deal Angelos struck with Selig so that his team could continue to suck criminally while he pockets revenue, I can't get the game on mlb tv. Radio only. Because in DC, I'm in the Orioles "market." Bad enough that I'm a native NY'er, away from home who wants his team's damn games, because that's what mlb tv is for, but even if I was from here, I wouldn't give a flying fig about the stupid, crappy Orioles.

12 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:30 pm

[10] What now? Or is that just out of principle...

13 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:36 pm

petey posted that they will come to a decision within the next 15 minutes, so by about 7:45pm we should know

14 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:44 pm

[11] Ever been to the "VACE" deli up on Connecticu Ave? Near Cleveland Park? They make a mighty fine sandwich there!
Peter Angelos..blechhh....

15 RIYank   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:51 pm

[12] Right, I think it's just important to get it in once in a while, just in case we missed something horrible that he did.

16 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:52 pm

8:20pm start time folks

17 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:52 pm

Woo hoo, game on at 8:20!

18 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:55 pm

Excellent. Figured they'd push to get this one in, and fortunately the rain let up.

19 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:57 pm

Oh, no!

I'm not near the tevee machine until later so I was actually hoping for a delay of about a 10pm start time. :(

I am happy to see there will be a game, though, to go home to.

But I am :( that I always seem to miss my beloved Andy.

20 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 11, 2009 7:59 pm

[14] I travel very little around this city. Working on broadening the circle of my peregrinations, but don't really make it up that way for much of anything. Will keep it in mind.

21 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:02 pm

[16],[17] I had just started watching Lan tou He on DVD, but oh well... I can deal with experiencing the Tao of Jeter for a little while >;)

22 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:08 pm

Girardi said earlier on ESPN radio that he thought Andy would be pitching with a "heavy heart" tonight due to the anniversary of 9/11. It was an off the cuff assessment that I thought was insightful and well-worded.

23 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:19 pm

[15] Excellent idea. The Romans used to inlcude in all of their prayers to the gods a formula like "and to all the gods known and unknown to the Roman people..."), just to make sure not to play it safe.

We should probably think of doing this every game thread. Maybe "Girardi sucks" could/should replace "First!"

24 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:31 pm

Hmmmmm, Guinesss.............I'd be watchiing anyway but Jeter's ab's give a bit more meaning to a misty Friday night against a putrid O's team.. Too bad no Coney or no O'Neill. Uh-oh, it's the hats.

25 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:31 pm

still looks nasty out there

26 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:32 pm

[23] "...sure not to play it safe."

I won't pay for MLB.tv...but I would consider paying so that we can edit posts after the fact.

27 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:32 pm

Oh, and what a freakshow IF Jeter gets a hit and then the the deluge comes in the 4th. : /

28 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:33 pm

[24] amen just fair to both points (announcers, hats).
i had to miss coney when i was out of town the week before.

and we got an andrew eugene pettitte.

29 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:33 pm

Jeez, that IS some rain coming down. The Sox game started in similar weather. The Rays got a couple of guys on and then, boom, rain delay in the top of the first.

30 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:34 pm

[27] Yikes, I had not thought of that!

31 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:35 pm

maybe they wanted po in the game tonight in case derek broke the record, and i am not really complaining, but i think i might have let frankie brains deal with the weather

32 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:36 pm

[31] Girarid could have punted the whole lineup with house money but that would have seemed bizarre.

33 edoubletrouble   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:37 pm

someone please tell me why they're wearing red hats

34 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:37 pm

I really don't understand why they started the game. If the weather is going to pass, why not wait a little longer (surely the team will make money on a captive audience in new Yankee reverse cash machine Stadium, and the players can luxuriate in the plush new facilities)? If the weather will not pass, just play two tomorrow.

35 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:37 pm

[33] 9/11

36 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:38 pm

It was stupid to start with the rain coming down this hard...

37 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:38 pm

[33] 9/11...MLB-wide.

38 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:39 pm

Man, awful weather tonight.

39 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:42 pm

[36] I've thinking bout Aqua Teen Hungerforce, "I am The Drizzle!!"
Lets go Captain. Knock one off the lightower. : D

40 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:43 pm

Kay: "Knowing Derek Jeter, he wants to get this over with...he does not want to be in the spotlight."

Hm. It seems that he should want to get it over with because that means he got a hit and got on base!

41 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:44 pm


Looks like Derek wants to get it over with ASAP.

42 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:44 pm

Christ, Kay. Come up for air.

43 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:44 pm

[40] i guess it would have been just far too mcuh for singleton to do this game

44 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:49 pm

damn that he crushed that one

45 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:49 pm

As much as I dislike the red caps on the Yankees, they really don't go with the Orioles black and orange.

Woo Hoo! A-Rod!!

46 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:50 pm

I think it's safe to say that Jeter sparked this rally. You just can't quantify that...Oops, now A-Rod went and killed it.

47 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:50 pm

You almost saw that coming, didn't you? >;) He actually might get 100 RBI. Another thing to keep us up in the later part of the month...

48 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:51 pm

Nothing beats a 3 run moonshot. : )

49 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:51 pm

pouring rain here too..and in Ananheim where they are showing the tarp on the field, instead of cutting to the Yanks-O's game...

50 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm

[46] Oh, that's right; (ahem) what a momentum-killer! >;)

51 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm

hey everyone. 3-0, egh? hurry up and play 3½ more innings.

52 Eirias   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm

[49] Would here be NY or Tokyo?

53 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm

[48] (Grand slam knocking on the door) Um, hello? >;)

54 Dimelo   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm

Alex killed that ball. This game is perfect to watch from home, definitely not at the stadium.

55 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:56 pm

there's something not right about mk bemoaning po's hr getting lost in all the "hoopla"

56 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:58 pm

[55] Almost any sentence that starts out there’s something not right about mk is bound to end with me in agreement.

57 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 8:58 pm

[52] Here is Tokyo, The "Big Mikan (Tangerine), 21st-century megalopolis, home of the $100 square watermelon, site of Shinjuku Station, with 3 million daily passengers and 137 exits...pouring rain now so the OK Jazz family is stuck at home instead of enjoying the Sri Lanka festival in the park..

No A-Rod Yankee-MVP talk going on? Team was lost without him in April...do the words "Cody Ransom" still make people shiver?

58 Eirias   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:00 pm

[57] Who was he? I have lacunar amnesia.

59 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:02 pm

[56] i'm finding myself with zero patience for him again.
i can often tolerate him or jsut tune him out but tonight i am finding him extra annoying.
even his statement about how amzing it is that the rain all of sudden stopped just now - it has been doing that all damn day -when i went out to lunch today it was absolutely pouring; when i got my food and headed back to my office about 5-7 minutes later, it was barely drizzing - that boring story was just to illustrate that mk is amazed for no reason

60 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:03 pm

Well Brett's getting his running in.

61 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:04 pm

Hey, Team, I caught a break! Got home earlier than expected, turn on the game and see Andy wearing a funny hat and allowing a double.

Sterling mentioned that Alex jacked one, so that's nice.

Sterling also mentioned that this team has one heck of a lineup and that Derek doesn't care if he gets eight hits if they lose and all he cares about is winning.


62 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:04 pm

[59] who's the color commentator tonight?

63 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:05 pm

[62] leiter

64 The Hawk   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:05 pm

I really don't like that new color for the Orioles. Stupid.

65 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:07 pm

[63] Al's a pleasure to hear, methinks. Except for having to hear MK ask him 400 questions about 'what it's like'...

"Now, tell me Al, because I've never played professional ball... Have you ever experienced heavy rain that suddenly stops?"

66 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:07 pm

[62] Leiter.

67 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:08 pm

[65] Heh hehe heh heh heh.

68 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:10 pm

[65] "Now tell me Al, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?"

69 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:10 pm

[65] Funny.

I like Leiter a lot, though he's a bit talky. But he calls a decent game and has some nice insights, and he doesn't do too much former-player-yukitup stuff.

70 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:11 pm

Why did Cano just kick the ball, which then dribbled to no-man's land between home and the pitcher?

71 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:12 pm

Anyone else see this on Baseball Musings:
"Geoff Baker, in a very good 9/11 post, talks about the resentment he’s seeing toward Ichiro setting the record for consecutive seasons with 200 hits:
. . . 'some of the stuff I’ve been hearing and reading on the internet crosses the line between good-natured curiosity and amazement, and plain old mean-spiritedness, resentment and maybe even racism.' "

Why in hell would anyone resent Ichiro setting a record with nine 200 hit seasons?

72 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:12 pm

[69] Hey can be a bit talky, but he's intelligent enough and serious enough that I don't usually mind. He's someone I could easily imagine hanging out with and talking about not just baseball, but lots of topics.

73 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:13 pm

[57] i know alex is your boy ok jazz, and you have brought this up before, but do you really think alex should be the mvp this year ?

he's not even the team mvp - that is most assuredly jeter. jeter has a war of 5.0 (alex, 3.2). alex shouldn't get extra points just because he is replacing cody ransom. his ops is quite nice at 141, but alex's feilding has not been so good this year not surprisingly, not 2006 bad when his uzr was -11.8, but -4.9 is not good - only lowell, young, and teahen worse.
and with him missing a month his counting stats took a hit.

74 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:13 pm

Funny, I think MK and Singleton make a decent pairing. MK seems to bait him less often - maybe cause he's older or whatever, I don't know. And O'Neill is always funny, but MK turns into a salivating fan around him.

Still, no one is worse than Gary Darling and his 'love stare' at Keith Hernandez during on camera sessions. It's flat out uncomfortable.

75 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:14 pm

I feel like Kay is reading from some lame script half the time. Badly. Just not natural.

76 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:15 pm

yeah i like leiter a lot too - i happen to think he is one of the few people who do better in a 3 person booth, but that is largely an mk issue see [65] et al and mk's inane questions

77 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:17 pm

Heh heh heh he!

I hope Will isn't watching.

78 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:18 pm

Damn it's been such a privilege watching Jeter play these last 14 years....We are going to miss him terribly when he retires, probably more than we realize. I am inordinately excited about seeing him pass The Original Captain, Lou Gehrig.

79 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:18 pm

[71] Never heard any of that, and the Japanese press is usually all over anything like that..in fact, they reported quite the opposite when Ichiro broke Sisler's reacord. Many were ashamed here because of how the US players and fans cheered on Ichiro, as opposed to foreign players here who are prevented from breaking records held by Japanese..

[73] Didn't know his fielding metrics were so bad...is "WAR" Wins above replacement player? How is that calculated?

80 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:18 pm

Nice pitch, Andy.

81 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:20 pm

Well done, Andy. Well done.

82 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:20 pm

Oh, for the love of Jehovah, we don't need that fanfare music taking us to the commercial break before Jeter's ab.

83 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:20 pm

[73] The MVP voting criteria, sent out to MVP voters, include games played. That missing month has to count against him.

It seems like when a player comes on strong and the team wins, he gets lost of extra credit. Thus, Jazz more or less implies that A-Rod's return turned the Yankees around after a poor April. But if that's the case, I wonder if said player should be penalized extra for missing that time. After all, couldn't we argue then, that A-Rod's absence is to blame for the team's struggles?

84 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm

[79] yeah war is wins above replacement

here is one article on war

85 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm

[79] From what I understand, it's more based upon all the Japanese media following him.

The thing is, I see all the green the media are spending.

86 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm

go Jeter!

87 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm

congrats derek

88 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm


89 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm

Derek Jeter!

90 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm

that's cool - the whole team came out

91 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:23 pm


92 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:24 pm

Too bad about the fucking hats.

93 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:24 pm

Bravo, Derek.


Derek Jeter, ladies and gentlemen.

94 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:24 pm

[77] Yeah, I thought the same thing. Actually, this poll is more interesting because it sets 4000 as the target, not the record (which would take at least two more seasons beyond 4000).

4000 is still very unlikely, but more in the realm of possibility if things break the right way. Records aside, maybe 4000 hits can be a sort of super-plateau, like 700 HRs.


OK, this is a little bit much. Does this mean there will be more less theatrics when (if?) he gets to 3000?

95 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:25 pm

Paul O'Neill said Jeter wants to play until he's 43?

If he does that he'll end up with 4,121 hits (based on an average of 175 per season -- granted he won't be hitting 175 a year in the last few years, but he'll exceed that for a few years more since he averages 208 over 162 games), not counting the rest of this season.

Seriously, if he really means it AND he stays healthy, he'll break Rose's record.

96 Dimelo   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:27 pm

Wow, he's made me a proud Yankee fan ever since he started playing. Congratulations to the Yankees all-time hits leader, Derek Sanderson Jeter.

97 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:28 pm

The look on his mom & dad's faces were wonderful.

They did a great job raising their son.

98 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:28 pm

another context to put the coverage of this in is look at how a lot of stories have been covered by new outlets this summer, i can easily think of a dozen off the top of my head that have been so overdone it was insane

99 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:28 pm

Man, cool replay showing lot o' people snapping shots from the 1st base side on that hit. : )

100 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:29 pm

Aww, that was a nice Jeterian hit for the breaker...

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101 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:30 pm

[100] haha... Sterling said it like 16 times.

102 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:30 pm

[94] I don't know if there will be more or less theatrics, but to me this record means more than 3000. Anything after Gehrig is gravy. Most hits by a Yankee. Period. Anything after that is somewhat meaningless to me unless it's most hits ever.

103 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:30 pm

well diane, mattpat and i think william is there to, will be happy they went to this game

104 BuckFoston   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:31 pm

102 First Yankee to 3000 would be nice.

105 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:31 pm

[98] From a baseball perspective---and I have no way to "prove" this---I trace this trend back to McGwire/Sosa in 1998. When the networks started cutting away for every AB and tracking every milestone and benchmark, it seemed to set a precedent for the coverage of subsequent records and milestones. Think, for example, of the extraordinary coverage for A-Rod's 500th HR, and that wasn't any sort of league or team record (and any more 500 HRs is not even that significant of a career mark).

106 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:32 pm

{103] Good for them. They most certainly deserve it on a night like this.

107 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:32 pm

[102] Indeed, every one after Gerhig will be a record!

; )

108 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:33 pm

[102] Yeah, but Jeter will be the first Yankee to ever reach 3,000 and things are bigger in New York --- it's going to be huge.

My very first Yankee game at the Stadium was Jeter's 2,000th hit, so I feel fortunate to have witnessed a small slice of history. Jeter hit one 5 feet in front of the plate and beat it out (probably an error but what the hell, he got another hit that night).

109 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:33 pm

[103] Wow, Banter is representin..

Thanks for the link to "war"! too many new metrics, i can't keep up...

Derek Jeter, easy to ignore the hype from over here, and just enjoy watching how good a player he is...

Monkeypants, games played factors into MVP voting, so does that automatically keep pitchers out of the discussion? I read Jonah Keri recently say both Greinke AND Lincecum should win the MVP awards...

110 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:34 pm

[95] Who knows? Ricky and Julio both played til they were around 50; Satchel played pro-ball past that; you think it's totally impossible? If it draws the crowds and the Yanks find a way to sustain their winning with or despite him, he's got a real shot. Just hope he doesn't get injured.

111 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:34 pm

[102] I don't know if we'll ever see anyone break the all-time hits record. 4200? That's f'n crazy. Ichiro might have done it if he played in the MLBs for his whole career.

Anyone think it'll go?

112 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:34 pm

Interesting, what Kay just said, relative to the discussion on the last thread. Jeter felt uncomfortable (according to Kay) last game that he was showing up the Rays. This perspective, that celebration and extra attention might be construed as showing up the opponent, may explain why some players would be bothered by choreographed celebrations.

113 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:34 pm

Alright, fire up the wet score truck.

114 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:35 pm

Ok, ok, there's a game on! Can't we do all this during the postgame or something?

115 Dimelo   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

My brother just called me and told me if the game gets rained out then the hit doesn't count, I can't imagine a more effed up thing but for some reason I'm secretly rooting for it just to see the reaction.

116 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

Wonder whose call it was to have the team run onto the field. It was a nice gesture, didn't take too long, and the Os seemed cool with it. Jeter was probably less comfortable with it than anyone at the stadium

117 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

[111] Ichiro is going to get the combined all-time record, word here is that he'll play till he's 45 as long as he can still punch out singles..

[114] The Orioles are not nearly as boring as they used to be, with Wieters, Jones, Felix Pie-with-Felix's Eye in the Sky..but they still stink...

118 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

Yunnow what would've been nice? If as many of the 1996 Yanks as could make themselves available could have been flown in for the game. At any rate, we'll probably hear from more than a few of them in the coming days.

119 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

[112] His interview with Kim Jones after the game Wednesday he appeared ucomfortable. That's the first time I've ever seen him ill at ease giving an interview. In my estimation anyway. : )

120 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

[109] Well, de facto pitchers are excluded. But one could make the case that a pitcher has more direct control over the outcome of more games than any other position player. Thus, the very best pitcher who, say, starts 30+ games is worth as much as the best batter who plays in 150+ games. In fact, IIRC, stats such as WAR are calculated for pitchers and position players such that the best of each are more or less equal.

Now, a pitcher who misses a month of the season should get dinged, even if he is excellent upon his return, no?

121 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:39 pm

[110] No, I think it's totally POSSIBLE....In fact, deep down I believe he will break Rose's record. I guess because he's in such great shape he could keep it up. I think he can probably play shortstop for 3-4 more years if he keeps up whatever he did this past offseason. And I think he'll keep hitting around 200 per season for 4 more years. You add those 800 to his 2722 and that's 3,522 in 4 years. At that point, it's on.

[114] Weeping, this is historic so please give us a little latitude.

122 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:39 pm

[115] damn dimelo :}

123 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:40 pm

[118] Crazy Jim Leyritz will probably be yelling at the players in the parking lot later.

124 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:40 pm

[115] that's funny -- that you secretly wanna see it.

I just want to get through 4½ so the win counts! Jeter'll get hundreds of more hits...

125 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:40 pm

hmm i think i have heard that story about the scout somewhere :}

126 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:41 pm

Augh, you used these exact same stories last night, Michael Kay.

127 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:42 pm

[120] Interesting! Wasn't it 1999 when Pedro lost out to Pudge Rodriguez despite having one of those Gibson/Koufax like seasons...I personally feel that pitchers have their own award, MVP should be changed to MOP and then it would be easy, best stats wins it no matter the team..

128 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:43 pm

[115, 122] See 27. : D

129 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:44 pm

[126] I'm not Kay fan, but the guy has a ridiculous schedule..radio show, game-work, YES programs..don't know how he keeps track..

130 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:44 pm

[111] I think that sooner or later it could go--it's not an entirely safe record like career wins for pitchers. Star players can play longer thanks to advanced medical technology, and they have the DH to fall back on late in the career (or even to keep wear and tear off during their career). A Jeter or an Ichiro type player will come around some day for whom everything breaks right: start young, at say 18 or 19, play a long time without injury, yadyada, and the record will fall.

Plus, if anyone gets close, there will be enormous impetus for some team, even a crappy one, to sign the player as a box office attraction. Think Rays-Boggs-3000 hits, or better, Ripken-consecutive-games.

131 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:44 pm

Nice play, Jorgie!

132 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:46 pm

[121] No, sorry, I wasn't at all referring tyo BB, but to the actual broadcast. It's fine to talk about, but not such that we forgot there's an actual game in progress, is all.

133 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:46 pm

[127] as a sort of related thing, someone suggest to neyer in his chat this week that they should have an award like cy young that is voted on by the bbwaa (or whatever the acronym is) maybe even named after mo for the best relief pitcher to honor relief pitchers but kind of to prevent them from winning a cy young, which most people agree should not win a cy young over a starter except in very rare instances

134 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:47 pm

[127] Yes, agree, agree.

How often are that much in accord??!!

135 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:48 pm

[128] yeah you called it early; like nyyfan22 in [124] i thought it was funny dimelo actually wanted to do this all over again

136 Dimelo   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:48 pm

[128] At least I don't feel so twisted. haha!

137 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:48 pm

Nice hitting.

138 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:49 pm

[133] Well, really, there should be a special award for closers. And then another one for eighth inning guys.
More seriously, how is the Fireman Award or Rolaids Award or whatever it's called decided? Is that even around any more?

139 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:49 pm

[133] The bb-waa-waa, which sometimes applies to us >;)

140 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:50 pm

Jeter @ 35 = 2722 hits (probably 22-27 more by season's end)

Rose @ 35 = 2762 hits

141 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:50 pm

[129] Kay should cut down on his schedule.

[138] For the 8th inning guy, name it the Joba?

142 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:51 pm

[138] See, not enough people take that seriously, like win-shares...

143 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:51 pm

[136] Is that quantifiable? ; )

144 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:51 pm

[140] wow. That is berry berry interesting.

145 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:51 pm

[134] Scary! quick, someone post about Obama, racism or Dos XX beer...

[138] I havn't heard about the Rolaids Award in years..when we were kids it used to be a big deal, you'd think with the way saves are thought of now it would be just as big..

146 Evil Empire   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:51 pm

[121] oh ok that's cool...

147 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:53 pm

[138] it's not voted on, it's based on points (save=3 points, win=2 points, loss=-2points)

i don't care that much since as you point out the whole pen this is a bit crazy- but i think it would be cool for an award to be named after mo

148 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:54 pm

No matter how many hits Jeter winds up with, it's going to be long-ass time before he's surpassed. So he's got that going for him. : )

149 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:55 pm

[148] The old Fireman Award becomes The Sandman Award.

150 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:56 pm


151 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:56 pm

Chipper Jones got a three-year $42million extension?!?! I missed this earlier in the year..why have the Braves not caught flak for irresponsible spending, as the the Yankees do? That's an awful contract..just a reward for good deeds past??

152 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:57 pm

Jeter gets the Rolaids Award for ending the heartburn, nausea, and gas caused by the YES coverage of his Gehrig chase, and also the heartburn, nausea, and gas caused by the criticism of said coverage. Oh, what a relief it is!

153 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:57 pm

[145] According to Wikipedia, the Rolaids Relief Award is still with us, and is determined by a statistical formula:

The Rolaids Relief Man Award is an annual Major League Baseball (MLB) award given since the 1976 MLB season to the top relief pitchers of the regular season, one in the American League (AL) and one in the National League (NL). Relief pitchers are the pitchers who enter the game after the starting pitcher is removed. The award is sponsored by Rolaids, whose slogan is "R-O-L-A-I-D-S spells relief." Because the first closers were nicknamed "firemen," a reference to "putting out the fire" of another team's rally, the trophy is a gold-plated firefighter's helmet. Unlike other awards, such as the Cy Young Award or the MLB Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award, the Relief Man of the Year is based on statistical performance, rather than votes. Each save is worth three points; each win is worth two points; and each loss is worth negative two points. Beginning with the 1987 MLB season, negative two points have been given for blown saves. In the 2000 MLB season, the term "tough save", which is worth an additional point, was introduced by Rolaids. A "tough save" happens when a relief pitcher enters the game already having a tying run on base, and gets the save. The player with the highest point total wins the award.[1]

154 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:58 pm

All this talk is making me look up hit stats.

It's been a while since I saw that Tommy Lee Jones movie, but this page is pretty good reading. When my friends and I took a tour of Busch III this summer, the tour guide told us that first Cobb story and attributed it to Stan Musial. Damn thief. (either him or Stan, don't know which)

155 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:59 pm

[147] Rollie Fingers was such a great baseball name for a reliever; now it's almost as well known as an alter-ego for Inspectah Deck of Wu-tang fame. I'm actually torn about that, but it makes sense since Deck is definitely a talented, yet overshadowed member... >;)

156 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 9:59 pm

Wow, Gardy was safe despite taking baserunning lessens from Melky.

157 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:00 pm

[152] Sliced, that's Alka-Seltzer!

158 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:00 pm

[151] i can tel you 1 person who has given them flak - my mom - when i was home last week i watched a few innings of braves games with her and she complained about chipper quite a bit and how the braves should not have extended him and how the announcers never say anything about chipper's fuckups and the horrible slump he has been in and how he is always hurt

159 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:01 pm

[154][155] You guys are just Chock-Full-O'-Info..awesome!

"Cobb" was a pretty terrible film if I remember..

160 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:02 pm

oh gardy - i guess you are rusty

161 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:02 pm

Nice hit, Derek.

Watch that footwork, Brett.

162 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:03 pm

[156] Well, that was prescient...

163 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:03 pm

[156] lessons.


164 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:03 pm

[160] I'm listening on the radidio -- did he overslide the bag, or lift a foot?

165 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:03 pm

[157] plop, plop, fizz fizz ... ah, you're right. Has Alka-Seltzer marketed itself in MLB? Definitely a missed opportunity if not.

166 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:04 pm

[138] hah ah hah ah ah ah a hah !!!

167 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:04 pm

[163] i think what he did at 3rd could be called "lessens" :}

168 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:04 pm

[164] overslid 3rd

169 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:06 pm

Why does the OF get an assist for that? Shouldn't it rather be scored as an unassisted PO by the 3B, since Gardy was safe but overslid (overslided?) the bag?

170 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:06 pm

[164] Overslid.

171 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:07 pm

[169] I was wondering the same thing.

172 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:08 pm

[163] Don't worry, MP, taking lessons from Melky would seem to lessen anyone's overall value >;)

173 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:08 pm

[164] trademark "radidio" fast. that's gold, unless I'm embarrasssingly late to the radidio party.

174 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:08 pm

if you really want to think about how far removed the yanks are from last year, we actually were quite worried about what would happen if someone claimed chad moeller off waivers!!

175 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:09 pm


Well yes. But in any case, I could certainly use typing lessons. Or new reading glasses.

176 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:10 pm

Wait, did Kay just say that Jack Morris wanted his own ERA to be higher?? That doesn't make sense even if we accept the premise, that Morris and others "pitched to the scoreboard."

177 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:11 pm

All right, Andy, do your thing.

178 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:11 pm

[176] I know. What can you say?

179 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:11 pm

[174] Now look what you've done.

180 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:12 pm

Good, one out.

181 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:13 pm

[169] Well, you could argue that he wouldn't have slid if the throw wasn't coming in, ergo the OF still had a part in the play. Also, if he were a weak-armer, then it wouldn't have even been a play.

[173] I always say that to my kids and they laugh like hell.

182 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:13 pm

[174] God, I barely even remember him. He caught for us for little bit, no?

183 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:13 pm

settle in andy

184 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:14 pm

Come on, Andy, bear down.

This is why you're a golden god, you wriggle out of this noise.

185 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:14 pm

[176] you really can't still be listening to Kay. I haven't muted the sound, but I haven't heard a word since Jeter ripped that ball past 1b. It wasn't a gift I was born with, you have to work at tuning out Kay. Good news is, it doesn't take long.

186 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:14 pm

[182] that was Pudge Rodriguez.

187 The Hawk   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:15 pm

The real story tonight is Michael Kay embarrassing himself so thoroughly. What a turd. I want to see that on the back page of the Daily News tomorrow - hell, put it on the front - and I want pages of heavy statistical analysis, including his radio days. Let's make this comprehensive, people.

188 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:16 pm

shudder, goes to make himself a drink

189 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:16 pm

[165] A quick jaunt around the internet says no; if anything players that were on an Alka-Seltzer regiment trying to overcome some colds and such, but I think Rolaids has a monopoly on the relief thing with baseball; yes, a missed opportunity indeed.

190 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:16 pm

Oh, fuck, that's not fair.

191 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:17 pm

[181] Yeah, that makes sense. I guess it depends if you see it all as one, continuous play. So it would be different if Gardner was safe and the 3B caught the ball, and only then Gardner inexplicably stepped off the bag and was tagged out.

192 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:17 pm

Nice hook, Andy.

Get this bum.

193 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:17 pm

[182] yes, moeller caught 41 games last year; [186] pudge - 33

194 The Hawk   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:17 pm

Jeter standing atop the Yankee Mt Olympus. Holeeeee shit, Mike. Wow. Yes Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle - these men bow before you , Derek Jeter!

195 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:18 pm

Damn it. He's really missing.

196 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:18 pm

All right, here we go, Andy!

You can do this!

197 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:19 pm



198 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:19 pm

whew that was close - good job to get the out

199 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:19 pm

[182] Appologies -- You're absolutely right. 2008 Yankee catchers:

J Molina - 100 games
C Moeller - 41
P Rodriguez - 33
F Cervelli - 3
Chris Stewart - 1

200 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:19 pm

[185] I don't get to see too many games up here, so I tend to leave the sound on. Still, I usually fade in and out of the game, especially when it's slow paced like this one. I just happen to "tune in" at the wrong time.

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201 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:20 pm

Holy fuck, what a play.


I mean, Andy should have fielded it cleanly, but man, what a recovery.

202 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:20 pm

Strike one!

Nice curve.

203 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:21 pm

is andy calling his own game tonight?

204 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:21 pm

Oh, damn it.

205 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:21 pm

ouch hope mora is okay - you could hear that one

206 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:21 pm

[201][202] And now I blame you!

I'm usually not a quick hook advocate, but maybe it's time to pull Andy?

207 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:23 pm

[199] Not at all.

208 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:24 pm

Andy and Michael Kay might need to take the rest of the night off.

209 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:24 pm

[206] Heh hehe heh!

Yes, and bring in who?

Leave him in until something Bad happens.

210 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:24 pm

oh cano - beautiful man, just beautiful

211 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:24 pm


God damn, we have swagger!

212 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:25 pm

Now THAT was a nice play!

213 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:25 pm

We are one bad ass baseball club.

Andy gets out of his One Bad Inning, with a little help from Jorgie and Robbie.

Andy's a golden god and this is one Hot Team.

214 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:26 pm

I said it before and I'll say it again. Blimpies does not look like real food.

215 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:26 pm

Thanks god for Jete's RBI single to extend (and now preserve) the lead.

216 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:27 pm

[209] But who indeed? I don't know if anyone good was warming. Still, Pettitte has now thrown 103 pitches and looked sort of shot that inning. I might have made a move. In any case, I bet he's done for the night.

217 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:28 pm

I love Leiter: "Yeah, Mark McGuire." Without missing a beat. He's so into baseball.

218 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:28 pm

mk really does play 20 questions with leiter

[216] albie was warming up

219 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:29 pm

We might need another delivery from the Score Truck.

220 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:29 pm

[216] May well be, but I'd send him out for the sixth, on a short leash.

221 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:30 pm

[219] Indeed. You have 'em on speed dial?

222 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:31 pm

Nice play.

"We'll see how they score it?"

Of course it's a hit.

223 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:32 pm

I wish Hideki'd break his wrists when he swings.

224 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:32 pm

[223] ???

225 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:34 pm

Nice, Hideki, nice.

226 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:36 pm

[224] lot of times when matsui swings he doesn't turn his wrists - he holds the bat stiff through the zone
weeping, i am wondering if because he broke his wrist a few years ago if he can't turn them as much now

227 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:36 pm

[223] He (and Swisher) have this weird thing where they sort of sweep the bat through the zone but don't really break their wrists. At least, not as much as seems normal to me.

Like the swing mostly comes from the shoulders and forearms. Just looks awkward.

228 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:37 pm

[189] thanks fer checking the Alka-Seltzer thing.

[200] alright, I should charge people for this, but the trick with tuning out Kay is this...

You know I really should charge people for this but...alright, what the heck...
whenever Kay speaks, if he starts a sentence (give him 3 words) in a manner in which you might be able to predict the next 5 words.. TUNE HIM OUT!

Yeah, you'll immediately noticed this applies to 99.6% of his sentences, but that's just the first lesson.
Try it. How to tune out Michael Kay, and still hear his meaningful sentences is a lesson for another day.

229 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:37 pm

OH, fuck you, ump!

230 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:38 pm

ugh - would have like to get at least one run there

231 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:38 pm

[226] That's a really good point, Ms. O. I'll bet you're right, 'cause he didn't used to swing that way.

232 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:38 pm

[228] Thank you. Will give it a try.

233 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:40 pm

Bye Andy, and thanks for all the fish.

234 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:42 pm

[228] Heh he heh heh heh heh heh.

235 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:42 pm

Those of you discussing Matsui's wrist action, or lack thereof on his swing... you're familiar with his porn collection, yes?

yo, that's all I'm sayin about that.

236 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:43 pm

[235] Ohhh, sliced!!!

Heh heh eh heh heh.

237 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:43 pm

[227] Ah, gotcha.

238 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:43 pm

[235] That's hitting below the belt.

239 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:45 pm

[236] yeah, I'm a couple three glasses into the Chianti since Jeter did his thing, so please forgive me, precious friends, if my language gets salty.

240 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:47 pm

Oh, yeah, Moeller! There he is!

241 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:48 pm

dammit. I don't want Pettitte to lose that W.

242 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:48 pm

[240] Be careful. Remember what happened last time.

243 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:49 pm

[239] No comment on "saltiness" of language.

I will say, though, that I have joined you in imbibing, though it is not Chianti, but Chardonnay, on my end.


244 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:50 pm

alright marte - step up here

245 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:50 pm

[239] Right with you. Uh, you do spell Chianti S-K-Y-Y, right?

246 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:50 pm


247 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:51 pm

[241] yep, fuck

248 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:51 pm

Ohhh, FUCK!

Ok, enough of this foolishness.

Time to go all Assyrian on these assholes.

249 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:51 pm

If not for history and all that, this game has all the feeling of a long, sucky Yankee-O's game. And with a rain delay to boot.

250 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:52 pm


251 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:52 pm

Come on, catch the baseball!

Damn it!

I don't like this.

252 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:53 pm

I would not say that Marte was effective tonight. I might say he was "unlucky," if you know what I mean.

253 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:53 pm

let's just move on to albie - marte doesn't have it tonight

254 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:53 pm

[249] Indeed.

And a rain delay to boot.

255 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:54 pm

Yeah, throw it into centerfield, why don't you.

256 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:54 pm

Why doesn't Girardi want to win this game?

257 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:55 pm

Suzayan Waldman, referring to Marte's erratic pitching, said, "this is what drove Ozzie Guillan crazy when he pitched for the White Sox".

Oh I doubt that. I suspect he's been loopy his whole life.

258 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:56 pm

[256] It might have something to with the phrase "mix and match," which I have heard several times a game since September call-ups.

259 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:57 pm

[258] Did that strategy expire a few batters ago?

260 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:58 pm

[259] Sadly, I think the chess match has only just become.

261 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 10:58 pm

melky doing his job to make a catch in lf interesting

262 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:01 pm

'bout time.

Oh Score Truck, we need a special delivery tonight.

263 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:01 pm

Glad I missed the last hour. Shite and bollocks.

264 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:03 pm

[262] Maybe the dispatcher does not allow the Score Truck driver out in the rain?

265 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:03 pm

Damn, 7.

Come on, Robbie.

266 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:03 pm

[248] HA!. too funny that you should mention Assyrians. My brother's Godparents are Assyrian (yeah, Christian), and just the other day my parents and I were debating a gawdawful recipee they gave my mom when I was a kid - some beef, stringbeans, and tomato sauce contraption that made me ill once (though my parents maintain I was already ill, and the food just made it worse).

Anyway, when you say "let's go Assyrian on these assholes" I think let's serve the Orioles some unsavory food, and dance around with our arms in the air -- which I'm all for... but as monkeypants suggests in [249] this is going to be a 4 hour and 20 minute wedding. That's an awful lot of unsavory food, and dancing at this point on a Friday night.

267 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:03 pm

OK, let's rally.

268 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:04 pm

Robbie would have had that.

269 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:04 pm

Let's go, Melkius!

270 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:05 pm

I don't like Brian Roberts. Not as much as I don't like Dustbin. But it's almost close.

271 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:05 pm


Here we come!

272 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:05 pm

Good start.

273 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:07 pm

[266] hehe heh heh heh heh !!

Very funny.

Yes, I mean, "Let's ruthlessly crush these bugs and then go out for pizza."

274 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:08 pm

[268] Baseball is amazing. How often does a guy make a play in the field, then lead off two innings later and get a hit on the same kind of ball that he made the play on?

275 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:08 pm

No, don't bunt here!

276 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:08 pm

[270] I do like Roberts, but that's because I got to see him play his junior year in college. Back then he was the best player on the field.

277 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:08 pm

[274] Baseball is, indeed, amazing.

278 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:09 pm

[275] I don't mind him bunting for a base hit, but no sac, for sure.

279 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:10 pm


280 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:10 pm

At least Brett went down swinging. D'oh!

281 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:10 pm

Gardner has been awful at the plate since his return.

282 ms october   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:11 pm

bullpen roulette - my favorite past time

283 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:11 pm

Excruciating. After the Rays series, I am plum out of patience for intricate late inning chess matches.

284 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:15 pm

Two good swings by Derek.

285 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:15 pm

Three good swings.

286 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:16 pm


287 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:16 pm


288 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:16 pm


289 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:16 pm

[286] I second that.

290 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:17 pm

ah, no sweat. Fuck these fuckers we will.

291 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:20 pm

And we go from Yankee history to Susie's pen.

292 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:20 pm

Where's my man Melancon?

293 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:21 pm

And from the mystery of Susie's pen to the enigma that is Edwar.

294 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:21 pm

Oh, God, Michael, please, don't talk about Bugs Bunny.

295 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:21 pm

[10],[12],[15] Okay, now I get it... ~>:'

296 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:21 pm

[290] That's the spirit!

297 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:24 pm

I'm glad Leiter just mentioned the splitter because I was just thinking the other day that no one seems to throw a splitter anymore.

298 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:24 pm

Nice, Edwar.

299 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:26 pm

[297] Remember when a few guys threw a "fork ball" (which I imagine was a just a split-finger pitch)?

300 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:26 pm

You can't stop Chad Moeller, you can only hope to contain him.

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301 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:30 pm

The only reason I want a win tonight is to not ruin Derek Jeter's night. Otherwise, put the scrubs in and send the regulars home.

302 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:31 pm

[299] Yes, exactly. Sometime in the '90s (I think) they began calling it a splitter. I think.

303 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:31 pm

[300] Hah a hah ah ah ah ah a!

304 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:32 pm

Oh, no.

Ok, we can't have this.

We can't have this.

305 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:32 pm

[299] Lindy McDaniel?

306 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:33 pm

It was nice hitting.

307 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:33 pm

This game is killing me. My mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it.

308 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:33 pm

[299] Yes, really split-fingered >;)

309 rbj   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:35 pm

Good night. This is too much of a slow moving trainwreck.

310 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:37 pm

[306] Yes, I miss it, too...

[307] Welcome to my mornings.

Jeter's gonna be a tad grumpy after this game, huh?

311 Just Fair   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:38 pm

Now the tarp. Just call it. : ( Thanks, though, Captain.

312 Rich   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:38 pm

I would have thought that Girardi would have managed this game knowing that it would be a YES Yankee Classic.

313 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:42 pm

I am not coming back to this crap. This is all Joe Maddon's fault; his wizardry at tic-tac-toe obviously made a strong impression on a young Girardi.

314 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:42 pm

Would anyone be upset if the game recap ignored the final score and whatever happened in the final few innings?


315 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:45 pm

[313] Hmm... could Maddon be the Sith Lord, Darth Idious? And Girardi is his apprentice, Darth Vapor?

316 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:47 pm

[315] That's Jeff Vader, that is...

317 monkeypants   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:48 pm

[314] It's odd, but I remember very little from the game already. You could have fooled me with almost any recap!

318 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:48 pm

[314] The final what? What happened in the final what? Way ahead of you, Cliff... >;)

319 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:51 pm

If the Phiillies respected their fans, they'd hang the Phanatic.

320 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:57 pm

[319] That sounds infinitely more interesting right now; what happened?

321 Sliced Bread   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:57 pm

[314] recap? please allow me:

Jeter got his hit. It was good. Discuss, or not....

[319] If Phillies fans respected themselves they'd do it.

322 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 11, 2009 11:58 pm

[316] Very esoteric btw, good one >;)

323 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:32 am

P Abe says baseball will restart at 1240am.

324 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:37 am

[323] Yeah, he can have fun with that. Peace!

325 NYYfan22   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:38 am

well, I'm here at work till 5am, so I'll listen cause I'm here. Then I'll forget it all.

326 Just Fair   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:45 am

Exciting things tend to happen when Melancon pitches. And not the good exciting.

327 Diane Firstman   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:50 am

I left after the 6th inning, just walked in .... and its now the 7th inning stretch ... gotta love those rain delays.

328 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:54 am

Anyone still here?

Hairston has the right idea. Everyone swing at the first pitch . . . please?!

329 Just Fair   ~  Sep 12, 2009 12:57 am

[327] They should give the 125 people still there 2 complimentary tickets for the love of Mo.
They just showed guy in the very last row of the right field upper deck. It looked like Steve at W.W.

330 Just Fair   ~  Sep 12, 2009 1:04 am

Jose Molina at first will never cease to amaze me. He's better than Giambi defensively. : D

331 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 12, 2009 1:14 am

okay, game recap is written. I just need the last out to happen now . . .

332 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 12, 2009 1:21 am

You could tell Kay couldn't even buy his own line when he threw to commercial with "on to the 9th, can the Yankees make up a 10-4 deficit?"

Though, really, how cool would an all-subs comback be?

333 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Sep 12, 2009 1:26 am

Jerry Hairston Jr. 2-out 2B off LF wall in bottom 9. Cute in a way.

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