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Bantermetrics: 11 Alive (and asleep for the rest)

The Yanks erupted for 11 runs in the 3rd inning of the July 3rd game against the Blue Jays.  What was distinctive about this particular outburst was that they failed to score in any other inning.  This got me wondering if there was any record for most runs scored in an inning with no other runs scored by that team in the game.  My record books didn’t have such an entry.  So, I had to crunch the Retrosheet gamelogs myself.

While Retrosheet is missing some linescores from the early history of the National Pastime, I can now say with some reasonable certainty that the Yankees have never scored as many as 11 runs in one inning with no other runs scored during a regulation 9-inning game.

The Yanks did score 11 runs in one inning, with no other runs scored during the regulation nine in a June 26, 1987, 10 inning affair against the Red Sox.  The Sox pummeled Tommy John for eight runs in 1.1 innings, and had a 9-0 lead (with Roger Clemens on the mound) in the bottom of the third, when the Yanks sent 15 men to the plate to take an 11-9 lead.  The Sox tied it up in the fourth, and the score remained that way until Wayne Tolleson singled home Mike Pagilarulo in the 10th for the game-winner off of Calvin Schiraldi.

The Yanks HAVE had 11 runs scored against them, with no other runs scored in regulation, and they still won the game.  On June 3rd, 1933, the Yanks took a 3-0 lead into the top of the 3rd against the Philadelphia A’s, when Jimmie Foxx, Mickey Cochrane and their buddies knocked out starter Don Brennan and then Danny MacFayden.  Fortunately, Walter “Jumbo” Brown came in and threw 6.1 innings of 12-K relief, long enough for the Bombers to tally one in the third and ten in the fifth, for a wild 17-11 victory.

[After original post addendum:  Banter reader calyankee pointed out that on July 2, 1943, the Cleveland Indians scored all 12 of their runs in the fourth inning of a 12-0 whitewash of the Bombers.]

The record for most runs in an inning with zero scored in the rest of the game appears to be 13.  The “lucky 13” occurred on April 13, 2003, when the Phillies sent 16 men to the plate in the top of the 4th against Ryan Dempster,  got only six hits, but also received six unintentional walks (including three with the bases juiced).  The Phils cruised to the 13-1 rout of the Cincinnati Reds.

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1 calyankee   ~  Jul 10, 2010 5:33 pm

The World Series-winning 1943 Yankees lost 12-0 to the Indians and future Yankee stalwart Allie Reynolds on July 2nd of that year. All twelve runs were scored by Cleveland in the 4th inning.

2 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 10, 2010 6:26 pm

Swisher's in the homerun derby. I had a bad feeling he would do this.

3 RIYank   ~  Jul 10, 2010 6:27 pm

Hey, Swisher is going to swing in the HR derby.

Also, I'm back in Baseballland. Yeah, that looks right with the three Ls in a row.

4 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:05 pm

2) the ASG is the gift that keeps on giving.

5 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:14 pm

[3] welcome back, wanker!

how was the land of crochets, quavers and minims?

6 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:15 pm

uh, why is jeter outta the lineup??? me no likey.

Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Curtis Granderson CF
Colin Curtis RF
Francisco Cervelli C
Ramiro Pena SS

7 RIYank   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:28 pm

[5] Crikey, bloody brilliant it was.

8 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:39 pm

[8] excellent! i've been listening to old 70's UK hard rock. great great stuff. it prompted me to check in with my ex-british babe. prolly a bad idea, but what the fuck. she was (is) an absolute goddess...

hemi-demi-semi quavers!

9 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:40 pm

6) because he's 0-for his last 37 or whatever? That and without a dedicated DH, we can start Ramiro Peña, or something like that. OK, that last bit is more relevant a few threads back, and didn't make much sense anyway.

10 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:41 pm

6) indeed, the bottom third of the lineup is...objectionable.

11 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:42 pm

[9] i was just hoping it wasn't due to injury. maybe it's to give him a blow. he won't have much of a rest w/ the ASB, since he's playing in it...

12 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:42 pm
13 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:42 pm

[10] oh yeah, it's decidedly inconvenient...

14 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 7:43 pm

[10] then again, maybe since we're facing king felix, gi joe's just throwing in the towel to start with...

15 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:05 pm

I'll never understand the mentality behind sitting everyone on the same day. Posada and Jeter both really needed to same day off?

16 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:06 pm

from the indispensable lohud:

UPDATE, 7:41 p.m.: Just a regular day off for Jeter, Joe Girardi said. Also — and I”ll have more on this later — before agreeing to do the home run derby, Nick Swisher called Girardi, Kevin Long and Brian Cashman to make sure everyone was OK with him participating. He got the green light and excited is not a strong enough word to describe his thoughts.

also, girardi chose konerko to replace morneau, not ugly...

17 Sliced Bread   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:10 pm

[9] I believe he's 6 for his last 37, yet he's managed to score 9 times in the last 10 games, and has scored in 8 of the last 10. But if I follow your thinking correctly (from a few threads back) those runs are relatively meaningless because his OPS is in the tank?
Just busting chops, by the way. I'm down with your more sophisticated analytical concepts, but sometimes, usually for friendly arguments sake, i think baseball's more rudimentary concepts (runs, RBI) are still relevant.

18 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:12 pm

15) I think it's the same mentality that leads to not having a real DH so you can rest players.

I'm done grinding on that topic.

19 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:16 pm

[18] Thats the other thing. How much rest do these people need? We managed to win the whole shebang with a regular DH playing 142 games and every starter but Rodriguez and Posada getting 140 games. Why does everyone need a day off and a day at DH every week now?

20 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:21 pm

17) I know you're busting chops, but of course I never said that the runs he score are *meaningless*. however, the fact that he is only 6-37 (about a .170 BA, using a more rudimentary concept) over the last ten games, with an OBP of under .300 (13 times on base in 44 PAs by my quixk count) certainly is not helping the team much.

BTW, I was being facetious with the 0-37 thing, though I didn't realize that he had gotten on base so little over the last ten games.

21 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:23 pm

Swisher’s in the homerun derby. I had a bad feeling he would do this.

Jesus Goddamn Motherfucking Teeny Tiny Pogo-sticking Christ ... DO YOU EVER HAVE ANYTHING ... I mean ANYTHING *EVER* positive to say???????

I mean EVER????????

Fuck. If we ever met, I'd have to lure you into an alley and bleed you into a storm drain ...
Jesus, you're the worst of humanity ...

22 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:24 pm

19) well of course they don't. Now, jetted has looked pretty slow to me in the few games that I have been able to watch, and I don't mind giving a 36 year old SS a few days off. But the bottom third of the lineup is appalling, and there is simply no reason in my mind to schedule rest days such as to put those nine players in the field.

23 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:24 pm

21) uh oh...

24 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:26 pm

[23] Awww, c'mon ... look me in the eye and tell me you've never had the same thought ...

Just sayin' ...

25 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:29 pm

[24] maybe but [21] is a bit overkill.

26 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:30 pm

[21] I was in a jolly mood for a good portion of yesterday.

27 RIYank   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:30 pm

Doesn't Harrison Ford say "I have a bad feeling about this" in about half the movies he makes? I know Han Solo says it.

28 RIYank   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:31 pm

[25] Yeah, but that's just the way Cult does things. You have to read those comments and divide by three.

29 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:39 pm

[28] 3's my favorite number! but...but, how do you divide? oh, that must mean cut time! ; )

30 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:41 pm

[28] oh i see now... (enlightened)

31 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:42 pm

[26] Ignorance *is* bliss ... isn't that what they say???

32 RIYank   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:43 pm

[29] Oh, you just play three beats in the same time, and that's dividing by three. Or, hm, maybe it's the opposite and you have wait three times as long between each beat. That's dividing the pace. Anyway, it's important, so you'd better practice it.

33 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:46 pm

[31] Maybe you can explain why I'm supposed to be excited about Swisher rounding out another lacklucter home run derby field? Whether or not anything bad is going to come from it, what am I supposed to like about it? The whole event is fucking stupid.

34 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:46 pm

[32] eye-eye, hittin' the woodshed now!

35 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:47 pm

and cliff lee gives up a run to the oreos in his first frame as a ranger. i think he forgot to divide by three. or "tree" as my old NY bass player use to say...!

36 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:48 pm

[33] Totally, *man*, what I'm really doing is insulting the All-Star Game and not you ...

Right on ...

Far out ...

Exactly ...

37 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:50 pm


Oooops ...

I forgot.

Not Sayin' ...

Just Sayin'.

38 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:51 pm

Rough discussion here. We need fresh start. Game thread, anyone?

And yeah, I get tonight's game on the TeeVee!

39 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:58 pm

anyone following Wood?

40 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 8:58 pm

[38] I've just reached my *stabby* point.

Like I said above ..

Not sayin',

Just Sayin' ...

41 monkeypants   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:00 pm

40) it happens to all of us.

42 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:01 pm

[38] ooh, lucky! i think i might barely follow the game tonite. watch a dvd and drink some beer. when i have no gigs, it's like i have no life. and i have no gigs right now... : ~

[39] at some point, i need to tell you something that came up recently in regards to your screen name. shit, i already forgot part of it, but...oh well.

43 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:02 pm

[42] maybe it'll come back to ya?

44 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:03 pm

so no one following reds-phils?

45 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:03 pm

[43] oh, i've got the gist! i'm eating dinner though right now. at some point. it's nothing major. it just came up a lot and was pretty random...

46 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:04 pm

[44] OH! thanks for the heads up, man!

47 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:04 pm

markakis just homered off cliff lee...

2-0 boids

48 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:06 pm

[45] ok cool. i'll be online tonight probably. Kind of laying low and trying to figure some things out.

49 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:06 pm

[39] i thought you meant kerry wood. i saw a blurb somewhere said we might be interested in him. (i hope not). prolly a one-liner at mlbtr.

travis wood. whoever the fuck he is, GO BOY GO!!!

50 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:06 pm

[46] ok yeah, usually your on top of these things. going to the 9th...

51 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:06 pm

[48] you and me both. i'll raise a sierra later on, to you and my boy, cult!

52 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:08 pm

[51] sweet. it'll have to be a pbr on my end! (trying to save $$$)

53 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:08 pm

[50] thanks for havin' my back!

54 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:09 pm

[52] what happened to your raise/promotion? ah, yins don't have to answer that.

12-pack of sierra was on sale. 5 bucks off!!! : )

55 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:09 pm

btw, Ian Kennedy is having a solid year with arizona. I even picked him up on my fantasy team.

56 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:09 pm

[51] =)

Sierra or anything!!!

Wish I was still working with *ELNK* ... last time in the the ATL was *so* much fun!

57 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:10 pm

[50] it's too bad the kid is facing halladay. that guy is a frickin' machine...

58 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:10 pm

[54] oh, budget cuts. But i'm not broke. Just desperate to pay off debt. Oh, and in general cash flow is tighter than usual (but that's for good reason).


59 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:11 pm

[57] was just going to comment that it being 0-0 creates quite the dilemna...

60 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:12 pm

[56] yeah man, me too. if you were around now, we'd do it up right - cab it and just head to the watering hole. would rule! we'd hit my drum studio first...

you gotta go check out my buddy in la-la land sometime. he's been playing with scott henderson!!! nomad trio...

61 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:13 pm

[58] good reason sounds like 'female'. if so, you're my hero! ; )

62 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:15 pm

[61] thanks man!

63 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:17 pm

i just realized that cincy-philly is on mlbn tonight.

64 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:18 pm

crap. perfecto broken up.

65 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:19 pm

He looked really nervous to be honest. His first two pitches were way up in the 9th. I wonder if he just got overwhelmed by the situation. Only 3rd MLB start according to announcers.

66 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:20 pm

oh, BOO! leadoff double. you just know the kids gonna lose on a walkoff now... : /

67 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:21 pm

[62] bastid! ; )

68 randym77   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:21 pm

Ruiz ends the no-no.

Travis Wood was a second round draft pick and heralded prospect who sort of dropped off the radar after he missed half a year with an injury.

He's been one of the Reds' best pitching prospects the last couple of years, though. I've seen him pitch in AAA the last couple of years. He's much shorter than his baseball card says. Good pitcher, though.

69 seamus   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:22 pm

[68] ah, thanks for the info man.

70 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:27 pm

kid got out of it. good for him...

no shame in 1-htting the phils!

71 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:28 pm

[Clearing my throat] ...

I apologize if I brought the grumpy earlier, I just sorta ran out of patience.

I hope everyone understood.

72 Alex Belth   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:30 pm

Bummer that the kid lost the perfecto, great that he got out of the inning. Don't worry, Philly, Lidge'll find a way to lose it now.

73 randym77   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:37 pm

The Reds have a lot of nice young starting pitchers. Wood lost out to Mike Leake (the guy who never played in the minors) in spring training. Got called up basically to take Homer Bailey's spot when he was injured. But it's going to be hard to send him down, the way he's pitched.

In addition to Bailey, they're expecting Edinson Volquez back after the break. (Out due to TJ surgery - and roid suspension). They have more pitchers than they know what to do with.

They've really done pretty well with drafting and development. Lots of young talent in their system.

74 randym77   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:41 pm

Unreal. This is the third game in the row to go into extra innings for the Phillies. They won the first two. Last night, they scored 6 runs in the 9th to take it to extras (Cody Ransom 2-run homer tied the game!).

75 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:44 pm

[73] too bad dusty's the manager! ; )

lidge should buy a vowel and just call himself "ledge", 'coz that's where he lives when he pitches...

new thread, btw...

76 thelarmis   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:45 pm

wow, cliff lee has given up 3 homers. texas down 5-0.

and lidge comes off the ledge...

77 randym77   ~  Jul 10, 2010 9:48 pm

[76] Yeah, I saw that. Lee is losing...to the worst team in baseball, the Orioles.

Speaking of Cliff Lee, he and Travis Wood are pals. Both from Arkansas.

78 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 10, 2010 10:03 pm


By golly, you are right .... I'm embarrassed that I missed that in my SPSS data file.

I'll adjust the post.

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