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Alex Rodriguez and the Yanks are back at it in Cleveland tonight.

Go git ’em, fellers.

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1 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:09 pm

I've now reached the "I just want to get it over with" portion of the chase to 600.

In the meantime, I'll be watching the World Series Film Collection until first pitch

2 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:26 pm

Major rain expected to pass through till 8 pm

3 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:33 pm

Indians 3B Jhonny Peralta dealt to Tigers within the past hour ...

4 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:35 pm

[3] I *hate* the spelling of his name, btw.
I simply can't abide it.

5 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:36 pm


Dwyane Wade chuckles at your hatred :-)

6 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:36 pm

3) Phew...the Yankees escaped that trap.

7 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 6:43 pm

The Angels simply lay down for the Sox. They're about to be swept in Anaheim. What a joke.

8 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:08 pm

Tarp coming off the field in Cle.

9 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:10 pm

[5] So do the various JaMarcuses affiiated with the NFL

10 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:14 pm

[4] I suspect in Spanish, Jonny would be pronounced HONNY, you need that h in the spelling for the J sound.

11 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:16 pm

[6] I haven't heard the Wes Helms rumors in a while. I don't know if its because that idea is dead or they're now working quietly

12 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:19 pm

[10] Orthography aside, I still don't like it! ;)

13 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:22 pm

11) only few more days till safety...

14 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:24 pm

10) interesting...though I also suspect that Johnny or Jonny or Jhonny for that matter is ot really a Spanish name, so the spelling seems silly. i mean, if I was going to call my son Juan, I would also spell it Juan even though I am not anEnglish speaker...I wouldn't spell it Wahn or whatever to conform to English orthography.

15 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:24 pm

[13] I will say one thing. Jerry Hairston was panned here by almost everyone last year, and really, on the whole, I think served his purpose.

16 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:27 pm

14) OK, I take back what I wrote. A search for Jhnonny on baseball-reference generate es thirteen players in the ML and MiL. So I guess at this point it has become a more or less accepted spelling (I assume all of the players are Latino).


17 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:28 pm

15) I tell ya', given that The all purpose BUIF is Peña, I would cry tears of joy if the team landed another Hairston.

18 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:30 pm

17) and by "Hairston" I do not mean "Tejada"!

19 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:39 pm

Anyone know what happened with Jack Curry on Yes?

20 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:42 pm

[19] They still bring him up, so I figured he was just on vacation

21 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:51 pm

I missed the Jeter AB...let me guess...first pitch ground out?

22 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:51 pm


6-3 nubber off bat

23 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:53 pm

I'll take it...ty Alex.

24 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:53 pm

Alright, I'll take it

25 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:54 pm

He now has the most ab's for anyone trying to go from 599 to 600. I'll take a nice rbi single up the middle any day, though.

26 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 7:54 pm

A Rod selfishly going for a run producing single rather than giving the crowd what it wants to see. Continuing the drama.

27 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:00 pm

Here's one for you. Say, for argument's sake A-Rod doesn't hit the homer by Saturday. Do you sit him Sunday?

28 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:02 pm

[27] I kinda would like to see him get it in Tampa, just to rub it in.

29 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:02 pm

Gazoo Brains!

30 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:03 pm

[27] Why? To clear his head?

31 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:11 pm

Name all 4 former Yankee catchers who have also managed the team.

Indian's trivia question tonight.

Yogi & Girardi.

Other two are?

32 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:12 pm

[31] Houk is one.

33 joe   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:13 pm

Hey guys. Just tuned in.

How is it only top of the 2nd an hour+ into the game?

34 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:13 pm

[31] Dickey the other...but it was only for a short stint I think.

35 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:15 pm

[30] And let him get it at home.

36 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:17 pm

Little singles all the way around.

37 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:17 pm

[35] That would never be a factor...the Yankees are playing the Rays.

38 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:17 pm


[34] I was going to suggest Dickey, but wasn't sure if he managed.

39 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:18 pm

Number 9 (scorecard) ... number 9 ...

40 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:18 pm

[38] I think it was for a short time after McCarthy resigned.

41 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:19 pm

Gardner had better be running.

42 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:21 pm

Jeter is very sad to watch now.

43 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:23 pm


I wonder if Jeter would ever just walk away from the game in the middle of a contract

44 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:24 pm

Look at that smile on Frankie

45 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:24 pm

[43] Never...the man is not a quitter. I dont even think this season will have an impact on his expectations for his next contract.

46 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:25 pm

I smell a feasting on Cleveland's bullpen tonight.

47 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:26 pm

Alright, Big Man. Get it done.

48 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:27 pm

Aw nerts, was hoping for more. But I'll take a 4-0 lead

49 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:33 pm

[43][45] Hard to tell. I'm sure he would perceive it "quitting" if in the middle of a contract he was simply unable to perform physically. I think that the more critical issue is, rather, whether or not Jeter is capable of admitting to himself when he can no longer play.

50 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:34 pm

Sox win and Rays winning...so much for making hay while playing the Indians.

51 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:34 pm

Kim Jones rocks!

52 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:36 pm

Burnett is absolutely maddening.

53 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:37 pm

Crap. Let's go AJ.

54 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:37 pm

It doesn't mean they won't win the World Series anyway, but the Yankees really did "need" Lee.

55 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:38 pm

[49] Heck, Bernie still hasn't retired.

Jeremy Bonderman at 27 is contemplating retirement, and so far he's gettinr ripped for it, by David Pinto & our local ESPN host Norm Wamer for not having the competitive spirit.

56 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:43 pm

[55] Each player is different. We'll see how Jeter's career winds down. What frustrates me this yea is not that he is scuffling offensively. Who knows, maybe this is the end of the line, a big, steep slope in the inevitable decline. But he is still hitting a tad better than the average AL SS and playing only somewhat worse defense. He still rates out as an overall positive for the team.


He should not be absorbing so many ABs. It would be politically very difficult, but they really should consider dropping him down in the line up for the rest of the season, and perhaps for the remainder of his career if this season does prove to be the beginning of the end and not some crazy blip.

57 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Don't go hurting my Frankie!!!!

58 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:50 pm

[56] True dat. All of that.

How many HBP does Frankie Brains have this year.

And with Jorge DHing, we'd lose that spot and run the risk of a pitcher on the bases. Or is Pena the emergency third catcher?

59 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:53 pm

another infield ball in play for Jeter

60 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:53 pm

[58] Cervelli seems OK, but my guess is that we would not see a pitcher on the bases. Worst case scenario, they would pull AJ for a PH or PR and then go to the BP with a big lead.

Jeter had better be running, for sure.

61 seamus   ~  Jul 28, 2010 8:59 pm

apparently the score truck never made it to the game last night so it was loaded with extra runs for tonight.

62 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:00 pm

Can't go to 3-0

63 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:01 pm

Dale Scott's strike zone has shrunk

64 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:03 pm

This is getting tiresome

65 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:07 pm

[64] What is? Waiting for a semi-historic HR, or listening to the announcers four times a game build up the semi-historic HR?

66 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:09 pm

[65] Both

67 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:09 pm

Cano's Cannon. Neat dp.

68 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:09 pm

Is Robbie the best fielding 2B in the league?

69 Raf   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:11 pm

[10] It would be pronounced "YONNY"

[11] Still the waiver period to deal with.

[14] You'd be surprised. I know a Yesika (pronounced 'Jessica'), Yina ('Gina') and Deysi ('Daisy'). There was Deivi ('Davey') Cruz that played all those years in the majors... Of course it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that Jhonny was misspelled.

70 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:11 pm

Love me some Robbie!

71 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:12 pm

Damn, that sounded so nice.

72 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:13 pm

OK boys, save a few runs for tomorrow night! Might need 'em.

73 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:14 pm

Late to the Score Truck arrival..any room on board for me? Asahi Super Dry and some crab-flavored chips for everyone! Go Go Robbie Cano!!

74 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:15 pm

69) See 16)

75 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:20 pm

Feels like a long time since a nice, relaxing game. Where did everyone go?

76 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:24 pm

Dodgers acquire Podsednik .... the NL West is weird.

77 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:26 pm

Ugh. That play seems to be fucked up more times than not.

78 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:27 pm

[76] Torre misses Juan Pierre?

79 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:29 pm

[73] Asahi & crab chips? I've got an extra seat here.

80 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:31 pm

My friend asked me this question. Does anyone know who holds the record for one player knocking in another?

81 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:33 pm

[80] Interesting! Career or season?

82 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:33 pm


Hmmm ... Perez and Rose?

83 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:34 pm

[80] Ruth & Gehrig?

84 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:34 pm

[80] Would have to be Gehrig knocking in Ruth in one of his 170RBI seasons..?

[79] I'm in!

85 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:37 pm

[84] Except Ruth scored himself a lot on HRs. Maybe a less obvious pair, like Mattingly knocking in Henderson in '85?

86 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:38 pm

[91] I'm assuming career

87 JeremyM   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:38 pm

[80] So basically, who is the baseball equivalent of Stockton to Malone?

88 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:40 pm

[85] But Ruth also walked 120+ times a year..and even the Babe coud score from first on balls hit into center at the old Stadium...+ Lou's 40 taters...

89 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:41 pm

[86, 88] Hm. Gerhig and Ruth are all over the all-time single season leader boards for runs scored, so Gehrig-Ruth seems like a good guess. But they play together enough?

90 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:43 pm

[89] That's my hesitation. I think they only had nine full seasons together.

91 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:45 pm

Babe had 163 runs scored in 1928...163!!!

92 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:51 pm

Its only the end of the fifth now?

93 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:53 pm

[92] Amazingly, yes. It's almost as if speedy Brett Gardner ran around the earth so fast that he reversed time, like Superman. Or it's just a really, really slow ball game.

I do have some sympathy for Joe West's complaints.

94 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:53 pm

[89] I'm also thinking its probably not players that hit back to back. Might need someone in there to advance the runner.

95 patrick b   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:54 pm

Great pitch!!! OK, am I the only one who is now cheering like 10x harder for AJ now? It's funny, despite the temper tantrum he is still the anti-Kevin Brown for me.

96 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:55 pm

Alex is always doing something I've never seen before.

97 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:55 pm

Todd and A-Rod ..... Simpsons anybody?

98 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:56 pm

Jess Todd in the for the Indians....seriously, first Blake Wood, now Jess Todd...

99 seamus   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:56 pm

oh shit that was awesome. loved him just picking up second base.

100 RagingTartabull   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:57 pm


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101 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Jul 28, 2010 9:58 pm

Lou Gehrig 1934: 49 home runs, 31 strike outs..great, now I will be on baseball reference.com for 3 hours...

102 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:02 pm

I'm writing the recap of this game .... please move it along.

103 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:02 pm

[97] Not a single Flanders in Baseball Reference. : ( There's Charles Oakley of course. But no Dokalie's.

104 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:08 pm

[102] Game didn't get started until what 8 pm -- was a rain delay. I got caught in it at 4:15 pm, started just as I got home so of course the dogs wouldn't go outside. When I got home I had after Aikido I had one mess to pick up. Lots of nasty storms this summer.

And now another rain storm has started. Might hit Cleveland in an hour or so.

105 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:12 pm


Yes, I know about the rain delay ... I already have a good portion of it sketched out ... so of course A-Rod will get his 600th, and I'll have a major rewrite ahead of me. :-)

106 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:12 pm

Now the Indians radio announcers are griping---rightly---about AJ's pace even when ahead 8-0. Mercifully we are delivered by a DP.

107 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:14 pm

[105] Rewrite -- that will put you ahead of Mitch Albom. Shame that he went Hollywood. I suspect when he goes to heaven one of the people he won't want to meet is Shirley Povich.

108 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:15 pm

I don't think Frankie will ever homer again.

109 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:16 pm


Yes ... I read about that .... pretty pathetic.

110 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:28 pm

[109] And the thing is, if he had just rewritten the story so that the guys weren't there, it would be fine. I don't mind prewriting a story before it's finished, most time paragraphs or at least sentences that have already occurred can be kept and deadlines are hard. But be honest and rewrite what didn't happen.

His stock has really fallen.

111 Just Fair   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:29 pm

Really, Joba? Really?

112 Raf   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:29 pm

Not going to hold the runner on with a 8-0 lead, Joba...

113 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:32 pm

Fucking gnats.

114 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:39 pm

Herrmann's Homerits?

115 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:40 pm

So, I always defend Jeter here, but tonight was another brutal game, it seems. What to do this year? I wonder if he would benefit from a trip to the DL? But that would mean two weeks Peña.

Anyway, I'm just trying to stir up some conversation.

116 Diane Firstman   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:42 pm

Specially Marked Balls ...

117 OldYanksFan   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:44 pm

[115] Maybe start some trade rumors?

118 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:45 pm

[115] I have to believe he can finish out his career (5+ years) hitting .300. I mean, he's a .317 hitter or whatever he is. And his swing shouldn't be all that hard to maintain in his old age. I don't know, someone ought to look up precipitous declines from lifetime .317 hitters.

Can't this just be the season he realizes he has to make some kind of end of career adjustment?

Then again, Bernie's decline was equally precipitous, so I just don't know.


119 rbj   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:50 pm

Joba's behind the party platter these days?

120 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:50 pm

[118] Bernie had a few really bad injuries; his precipitous decline can be traced directly to those.

The most frightening comparison to jeter would be someone like Roberto Alomar. Take a look at his decline after 2001.

I'm still holding out hope that there is more Luke Appling in Jeter, though.

121 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:53 pm

[115] Jeter had a multi-hit game yesterday, and a 270 average is not horrific by any means. 0-5 tonight is not that unusual for any player. He does not seem altogether right, and is probably a little nicked up. It is frustrating to watch.

Moving him down in the order might be helpful, but where?

He still needs about 140 hits for 3000 total, and although he would never say it, wants to be the only Yankee to surpass that mark.

122 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:54 pm

[118] Can’t this just be the season he realizes he has to make some kind of end of career adjustment?

Actually, I'm hoping for this too. I thought 2008 was the adjustment year, but he was also dinged up that season, so maybe 2009 should be attributed more to better health than adjustments in hitting.

Like I said when everyone announced him dead in 2008, we'll know a lot more NEXT season. Two straight really poor seasons (by his standards) and we are probably looking at the end. But a nice bounce back would not surprise me at all.

123 OldYanksFan   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:55 pm

Derek has a .723 OPS, good for 8th amongst MLB SSs... and a couple of good games from 6th place. His D hasn't been bad, but you have to guess he's middle of the pack or worse.

There are 2 issues.
1) We are used to a .842 career OPS
2) His impending contract. Does he get paid market value ($10m-ish)?
How much does he get for being Jeter? And is 3 years dangerous (at any price)?

124 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 10:58 pm

[121] He's hitting a pretty empty .270, and his crazy 3.2 to 1 groundball to flyball rate is, well, crazy bad.

I would drop him to ninth in the order. N, this is not reactionary or a desire "punish" him. Basically, I would flip flop him and Gardner, giving Gritner an extended look at lead off to see if he can "handle" it.

125 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:02 pm

[123] ReplacementLevel has Jeter at something like -7 runs for the season at defense...below average but not cripplingly so, especially given his offense for position.

As for his contract, I think this is basically immaterial. He will be overpaid in terms of money and years. There is no reason even to discuss or worry about this.

My concern is how to get the most out of what offensive production he still provides. Yes, we are spoiled by .800+ OPS, and yes (as I have argued before) he is still a solid offensive player for his position. But for most teams, the SS is one of the worst batters...and indeed, this is the case with Jeter and the Yankees this year.

Unless something changes, he is not a top of the lineup hitter anymore. No shame in that. But where to put him?

126 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:03 pm

Why is Mitre being used when Mosely is starting tomorrow night? Isn't Mitre one of the long men, supposedly?

127 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:04 pm

I know that we can't get into the mind of Derek Jeter, but do you really think he wants a 3 year deal? Doesn't need the money. He does not have a raging ego and seems very centered. His status as one of the greats is assured. In my opinion, he will not linger as a player if he cannot meaningfully contribute on a regular basis.

128 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:06 pm

Love seeing Swisher pumping those short legs. Nice catch.

129 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:07 pm

[127] I actually agree with you. But in any case, what difference does it make if the Yankees give him three or four years? The organization has shown that they will cut ties with legends (Donnie, Bernie), so the worst case scenario is that Jeter stinks it up and the Yankees eat 15 or 20 million per year for a couple of years at the end of his contract,

Yeah, that's some money. But it's also a relative pittance compared to the Yankee budget, especially when one considers all of the money coming off the books in the next few years.

130 OldYanksFan   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:08 pm

Swisher's D is far improved from last year.
[125] Money is ALWAYS an issue. We let JD go to save $3m or $4m. The difference between Jeter's value and PAY HIM WHATEVER HE WANTS is some serious coin.

131 OldYanksFan   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:15 pm

"... so the worst case scenario is that Jeter stinks it up and the Yankees eat 15 or 20 million per year for a couple of years.."

I'd pay some serious money to see you say that to Cashmans face.

As far as $$$ off the books, the only gain is Posada, as we have his replacement on the farm. Swish is getting more expensive, as is Grandy and Cano. ARod goes down a touch, but AJ, CC, ARod and Teix are serious commitments. Let's not forget that when money comes off the books, we need to replace those players. Cliff Lee, Werth, Crawford.... these guys aren't free.

132 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:17 pm

[130] Yes, we let JD go to save 3 or 4 million to use elsewhere, no doubt. But the committed payroll this year is significant (Jeter, ARod, Posada, Mo, Teix, AJ, CC and even Grandy). A whole bunch of those contracts will be gone in a couple of years, including Jeter. So, the team would simply be paying Jeter's next contract using money that they are already using for him.

PLUS, his 15 or 20 million per year will be worth LESS in a few years, given inflation.

Effectively, the money will be a non-issue.

133 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:19 pm

[130] Let's hope Jeter finishes the year strong, and has a important post season (if the team gets there). The team will be more compelled to pay him what he wants, but I don't see him asking for more than 2 years.

I think that the Yankees wanted to release JD, and took his bat for granted. I believe that Cashman was embarrassed by his defense, and non-existent arm.

134 jjmerlock   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:21 pm

Back to [7], the extent to which I loathe the fucking Angels, and Mike "Overrated, Grumbly, Whiny, Can't Roll Over and Beg For A Treat Fast Enough when the Shit Sox are in town" Scioscia - that extent is a little bit scary.

135 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:27 pm

[134] Whoa...it is scary. You went back 120+ comments to refer to it! ; )

136 monkeypants   ~  Jul 28, 2010 11:29 pm

[133] Right. At least Jeter can still more or less play a position, and a high value position at that.

137 jjmerlock   ~  Jul 29, 2010 1:53 am

[135] It's true, it's true!

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