"A New York Treasure" --Village Voice

Dream a Little Dream

The Yankees haven’t looked right for weeks but the past two games have been particularly unsightly. With Justin Verlander on the mound for the Tigers tonight it sure doesn’t feel good for the Bombers. Feels like the Yanks have more bad ball in them. Here’s the line-up, fresh from the Lo Hud Yankee Oven.

Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada C
Marcus Thames DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Ramiro Pena 3B

…On the other hand, CC is pitching and the Yanks are the defending World Champs.

So hope is the thing soars. Like her:

Go, git ‘em boys. We’ll be rooting you on, bitchin and kveting all the way.

Let’s Go Yan-Kees.

[Picture by Bags]

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1 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:06 pm

What a bizarre lineup! It's like the manager decided to shake things up a little; who could imagine?

2 Shaun P.   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:08 pm

[1] You know, if you switch Pena for A-Rod, and then bat A-Rod either 4th or 5th (Cano taking the other slot), I could live with that lineup very easily.

3 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:10 pm

Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: I want to give him the heat and announce my presence with authority!
Crash Davis: Announce your fucking presence with authority? This guy is a first ball, fast ball hitter!
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: Well he hasn't seen my heat!
Crash Davis: Alright meat, show him your heat.

4 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:12 pm

It was Damon's first time back, it's not surprising that he would soak in the cheers...

I guess Grandy's groin is fine?

5 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:14 pm

The Yankees are on TV here again,which unfortunately--given my track record the last couple of weeks-- means they are likely to lose.

Come on boys, break my jinx!

6 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:15 pm

[1] Just a leetle-tiny bit, Will; Jeter's not leading off while The Gardner State is, MVP-alike in the cleanup spot and The Swisher King becomes the fifth element; Grand Concourse in the 8 hole between Old Man River and Bring Da Peña. Shall you watch?

7 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:18 pm

[6] Let me ask Shaun, he's the only other one talking to me right now...

[2] You would bat Nick at Ninth?

8 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:20 pm

[4] But, it seems as if Pettitte's is not. He is getting an MRI now. If Andy isn't back, everything else might not matter.

9 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:24 pm

Gotta send Jeter here, no?

10 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:24 pm

Damn Tex...the Yankees really needed a big hit there. Double Play is still in order.

11 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:25 pm

[9] Laird's arm is pretty good...I let Cano hit.

12 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:25 pm

11) they won't throw through with Gardner on third.

13 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:26 pm

[12] I think they would.

14 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:28 pm

Yankees have to get a big hit here. They can't keep squandering opportunities. The game could very well be on the line right now.

15 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:28 pm

Mute point. Please, Swish, in the air.

16 rbj   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:28 pm

Well this is a promising development.

17 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:28 pm

13) then Gardner would have scored.

18 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:30 pm

[17] Not sure that's a given, but he made it home anyway. Big hit by Swish.

19 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:30 pm

Nice hit by Swish, despite the umpire's effort, calling the high strike...

20 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:30 pm

Yay!

I have to admit that off the bat I assumed that was a doublemplay.

21 rbj   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:30 pm

A hit with RISP!

22 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:31 pm

[8] Depends on how the replacements do.

23 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:31 pm

Damn, that was a nice pitch to hit ...

24 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:32 pm

[22] The Yankees don't have a replacement.

25 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:34 pm

Hmmmmm...big score truck or little score truck. Which one arrives?

26 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:34 pm

Epic Fail.

27 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:35 pm

Incredible...this team can't get out of its own way.

28 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:35 pm

25) That would be the little one. :(

29 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:35 pm

[24] Of course they do, they're not going to forfeit the games Pettitte's supposed to start. Some combination of Mitre, Mosely, Gaudin or some guy from the minors will start.

30 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:35 pm

mk came oh so close to saying that "you can't predict baseball" when he was discussing cc and verlander.

31 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:36 pm

I wonder what the wisdom behind batting Thames ahead of the lefty Granderson was?

32 rbj   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:36 pm

[29] I hear Sidney Ponson is available. . .

33 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:37 pm

[29] Semantics. Ok fine...they don't have any good replacements.

34 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:39 pm

[31] he hit a big hit off a righty last week or so right - that's the chess master's logic i'm sure

35 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:39 pm

Rays up 3-0 in the first.

36 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:40 pm

[30] Are you sure it wasn't right before Thames' double play?

37 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:41 pm

Why isn't Cervelli playing tonight?

38 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:42 pm

[37] he catches javy and aj, but dear god you don't want him in there do you?

39 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:42 pm

31) he's having a better season than Grandy, including against RHP?

40 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:42 pm

[36] haha, you never know with mk

41 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:43 pm

37) ROTATION!!

42 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:44 pm

[31][34] Girardi probably wanted to alternate L & R batters, not sure why he didn't insert Thames between Posada and Swisher. But at least Pena's batting 9th.

43 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:44 pm

[38] Goodness no...was just kidding.

44 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:44 pm

If the boys cant get AJ Verlander out before the 4th, they could wreak some major havoc on the bullpen and get rolling in the right direction again. Or let him settle in for a solid 7 innings. Whatever.

45 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:45 pm

[39] 2010 aside, Verlander seems to be a terrible matchup for Thames.

46 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:45 pm

[37] Who else would back up @ 3b? :)

47 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:45 pm

grandy!!

48 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:45 pm

That's my boy. Atta boy, Curtis!

49 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:45 pm

NEW SWING!!!

50 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:46 pm

Could have been a Granderson Slam!

51 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:46 pm

DAMN YOU KEVIN LONG!!!

52 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:47 pm

Well that was grand. He's a bum for waiting so long for Long...

53 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:47 pm

[45] I think the logic was that Thames may be able to run into a Verlander fastball

54 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:48 pm

hell even pena got a hit.

55 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:48 pm

Jesus, if Pena can sit on a hanger, Justin's in trouble.

56 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:48 pm

45) I agree, but I can also see where this seasonGirardi might trust Thames more than Grandy, and ultimately who bats seventh or eighth is small potatoes. Sure, it happened to affect that inning, but I'm not sure that was exactly predictable.

57 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:49 pm

What's this, a play?

58 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:49 pm

[56] um, of course it wasn't predictable :}

59 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:49 pm

A bunt!

Madness, I say, madness!

60 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:50 pm

Does anyone know what that was he just did with his bat; what was that?

61 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:50 pm

57) confusing: was that a play or an attempt at a bunt base hit. Either way, my mind is reeling.

62 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:53 pm

Schlereth has 2 completely different eye colors.

63 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:53 pm

Kay is talking nonsense. The Yankees have destroyed first time pitchers since 2000, according to The Captain's Blog :)

64 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:53 pm

Two nice ABs by Jeter. Hey, it's a start.

65 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:54 pm

[62] he is a cat!

66 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:54 pm

[64] The mind boggles.

67 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:56 pm

Not sure if anyone else is thinking it, but since he came back from his leave, Tex has gone cold. He had been scorching before that.

68 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:56 pm

And now Teix is swinging early in the count...

69 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:56 pm

Fives outs so far: two by Teix, two by Thames, and a sort of sacrifice bunt by Gardner.

70 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:58 pm

I wonder if they're talking about Doral Arrowood or Westchester Country Club. May be the former than the latter, if Fox execs were there.

71 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:58 pm

Three runs doesn't seem like enough when you consider how poorly Verlander has pitched.

72 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 7:58 pm

damn could have really opened it up there.

73 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:05 pm

C'mon big fella!

74 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:06 pm

Nice-'n-easy.

75 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:08 pm

Dear Jete,

Please let those be the only type of DPs you specialize in for at least the rest of the season, please?

Sincerely,
Bronx Banter

76 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:13 pm

Three steals for Jorge over the past week or so.

77 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:14 pm

You can't coach speed.

78 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:14 pm

(spits coffee out of mouth, though not drinking coffee)

79 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:14 pm

Posada, stolen base. Didn't even draw a throw. My mind is further boggled

80 JeremyM   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:14 pm

[77] Oh my God! :)

81 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:15 pm

that daredevil po - the students in his baserunning academy are going to be hearing about that one for a while!

82 JeremyM   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:16 pm

Three stolen bases matches his career high. Impressive.

83 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:16 pm

76) Does it xount as a steal if the runner forgets how many outs there are and the count, and runs (thinking it's two outs, 3-2), and the defense is so stunned that he reaches second? You know, sort of like defensive indifference (runner confusion)?

I figure that's what is going on with Jorge.

84 JeremyM   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:17 pm

[81] I honestly would pay good money for a DVD of all of his base running exploits. Call it The Misadventures of Jorge Posada or something.

85 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:18 pm

[83] i don't think that was what happened on that one. since jorge is foolishly aggressive and doesn't know he is slow as all shit, i think he saw that no one was paying attention to him and figured he could make it - and lo and behold he did!

86 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:18 pm

Well, we've seen a lot so far; a Jorge steal, a Gardner bunt, a Grandioserson display of power, Jeter not ground into a dp... what's next? A Joba 1-2-3 save?

87 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:19 pm

[84] haha, yeah - that would be a helluva dvd.

88 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:20 pm

Damon is right...why did Cashman choose to make him the exception?

89 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:20 pm

[84] Jorge of the Bungle?

90 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:20 pm

Anyone else experiencing technical difficulties repeatedly throughout this game?

91 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:21 pm

[90] yes. i am - the audio keeps messing up as if the cable were out.

92 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:22 pm

[88] Good question, Damon signed for a year less and a million more than was offered.

93 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:22 pm

[91] Salzberg must be playing with the wires.

94 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:22 pm

[90.91]

Me too ... :-(

95 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:23 pm

[90] Yeah, I keep thinking the Yanks actually put on a play at some point...

96 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:23 pm

[90] On My9? Things are fine over here. O'Neill, Kay and Flaherty talking about everything under the sun.

97 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:23 pm

If Peralta was on the Jersey Shore he would be known as
J-Honey.

98 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:23 pm

it is clear that mk has lost all interest in baseball right now - good lord he has been prattling on about everything but this game.

99 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:26 pm

98) i'm getting the tigers tv feed here in canada tonight. Their announcers are not particulalry good, but on the other hand there is no Kay.

100 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:26 pm

CC's experiencing technical difficulties...

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101 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:28 pm

[100] Fixed!

102 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:29 pm

Boy, Leyland's still pissed about that pitch to Swisher.

103 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:30 pm

[99]

"Every schtik begins with Kay" ...

104 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:33 pm

[92] There was still a chance to revisit him late in the game, even after blowing similar money on Winn and Nick Johnson.

105 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:35 pm

He looked out.

106 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:35 pm

Close, but likely out ...

107 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:35 pm

Kay is a clown sometimes. Jeter did the same thing a few weeks ago and he wasn't critical of it.

108 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:38 pm

I have to say, I am enjoying reading the complaints about Kay and trying to work backwards from what is written to what he said. The advantage, I don't have to listen to him.

It reminds me of the analogy of the shadows in the cave. Or something.

109 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:41 pm

[104] No need to as the roster was full, and IIRC, Damon had no intention of DH'ing.

[107] Sometimes?

110 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:41 pm

The Pettitte news is bad.

111 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:43 pm

[109] They could have made room for Damon, and I don't recall ever seeing Damon say he wouldn't DH.

[108] He criticized the Tigers infielder for throwing the ball around on the Gardner steal.

112 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:47 pm

Nasty innning. If MK says CC strikes out the side, but doesn't say it was in order, did it really happen? ; )

113 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:48 pm

[110] One might even call it demoralizing.

114 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:48 pm

111) Cashman obviously thought that NJ would survive the year. Yes, that was a foolish gamble, but that's what he thought. So, operating from that assumption, there was no room for Damon on the roster except as the fourth OF/BUDH. They were not going to pay him what he ended up getting to be backup.

Seriously, why they didn't sign him is fairly straightforward.

115 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:49 pm

CC Rider to the rescue again..I really love that big lug!

Chyll, it's baking hot here again..tell us some more pizza stories..I want to torture myself...

116 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:50 pm

Verlander is starting to deal now, too.

117 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:50 pm

Man, he made Robbie look silly.

118 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:51 pm

(New Haven's own Frank Pepe's!)

119 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:54 pm

Run, Po, run!!

120 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:56 pm

[114] Given all the incentive clauses in his contract, I think Cashman thought that he may not make it through the entire year. Don't think he expected to get 98 AB's from him, though.

121 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:58 pm

[114] Why they should have signed him seems even more straight forward to me, but alas, we're stuck with the result.

122 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 8:59 pm

120) sure. I imagine he was aiming at something like 400 ABs.

By the time Damon signed with Detroit in late February, the Yankees had already signed Thames and, I think, Winn. There was never realisticaly a spot on the roster for johnny once NJ was signed.

123 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:00 pm

Ugly scoreboard tonight.

124 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:02 pm

On a tie like that there should be a quick rock, paper, scissor game. Best of 1.

125 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:03 pm

CC got away with one there.

126 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:03 pm

That sounded pretty good off the bat.

127 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:03 pm

He is one strong motherfucker.

128 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:04 pm

[124] Heheheheh,

129 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:07 pm

121) I disagree. It was the correct move not to sign Damon as the DH, or at least an explicable move. He's on the wrong side of 35, he can't play defense. Even this year he is hitting < .800 OPS, 110 ops+. he was asking for too much money.

No, the mistake that Cashman made was deciding to replace Johnny with NJ. And even here this boils down to him expecting NJ to get more than 100 ABs this season, because any objective individual would have figured NJ to outproduce Johnny if healthy.

130 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:11 pm

"Half an hour to get over one of those stupid questions Michael asked you."

131 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:13 pm

A double.

132 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:13 pm

Hey, Ms. O,
I meant Scherzer earlier. Check out the "cat like eyes." wild.

http://tinyurl.com/2f86gcv

133 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:14 pm

Gardner is a very strange offensive player. You can't coach broken bat doubles!!

134 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:14 pm

Nice 2b by Gardy

[130] I LOL'ed when he said that.

135 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:14 pm

[133] Can't predict 'em, either.

136 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:16 pm

Derek just looks horrible up there.

137 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:16 pm

Yay!

But he got a legitimate base hit!

138 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:16 pm

Well hell's bells. A two out ribeye.

139 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:16 pm

A non ground ball by Jeter!

140 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:16 pm

Very nice game by the Captain tonight.

141 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:17 pm

[129] I'd take his 110 OPS+ in a heart beat. Damon was good for this team and an ideal fit for Yankee Stadium. Also, if Nick Johnson was healthy, he wouldn't be Nick Johnson.

142 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:17 pm

You guys all owe Jeter hugs, kisses and apologies after last night's abominable comments..the Captain was not amused!

143 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:18 pm

"Fuck you all."

Derek Jeter to Bronxbanter, August 16, 2010.

144 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:18 pm

Jeter is closing in on Rickey's team record.

145 patrick b   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:19 pm

Wow, well that's pretty cool. According to Tigers announcers it was like 7.3 seconds from contact to Gardner sliding into second. The 1st to 2nd speed was ridiculous. Nice to get Jeter off and give CC a little breathing room.

146 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:19 pm

Hope they keep up the running the rest of the season.

147 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:20 pm

Uh, WTF was *that* strike call???

148 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:20 pm

That's NEVER called a strike. Give me a fucking break.

149 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:21 pm

141) Dead horse territory, but NJ had 400+ PAs in six of nine seasons. He was a good bet to stay healthy enough at DH. It didn't work out.

Letting Damon go bothered me not at all, and it still doesn't.

150 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:21 pm

Everybody else see this story?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/aug/17/lou-gehrig-disease-baseball-death

Gehrig, who built a heroic reputation for playing on despite injuries - he played 2,130 games over 14 years - is not named in the study. But Dr Ann McKee, the director of the neuropathology laboratory for the New England Veterans Administration Medical Centers, and the lead neuropathologist on the study, said that the implication is that he may well have died not from the disease named after him but from the repeated concussions he received on the baseball field as well as when he played American football in school and at university.

151 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:22 pm

[149] You are very stubborn to be defending NJ at this point! How many career trips to the DL for Mr. Glass??

152 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:23 pm

[149] Dead horse territory??? That puir horse was pummled into glue several months ago ...

=)

153 cult of basebaal   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:25 pm

reposted because it got caught behind the page flip.

Everybody else see this story?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/aug/17/lou-gehrig-disease-baseball-death

Gehrig, who built a heroic reputation for playing on despite injuries – he played 2,130 games over 14 years – is not named in the study. But Dr Ann McKee, the director of the neuropathology laboratory for the New England Veterans Administration Medical Centers, and the lead neuropathologist on the study, said that the implication is that he may well have died not from the disease named after him but from the repeated concussions he received on the baseball field as well as when he played American football in school and at university.

154 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:27 pm

151) I thought it waw a good gamble at the time, and I'm not going to back down from that. But it sure blew up in Cashman's face, no doubt about ot. In any case, what I am really defending is the team's decision not to keeo JD as the DH. That decision made perfect sense even if the corresponding move to sign Nj was a mistake (expected or otherwise).

155 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:28 pm

154...thought it was...

156 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:29 pm

Come on CC, get this last out.

157 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:30 pm

[149] Right, but in 2007 and 2008 he had 147 PAs combined. Even as a minor leaguer, Nick Johnson was injury prone. It was a bad gamble, IMHO. Now back to the game, which is getting a little sweaty.

158 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:31 pm

Roll on, Big Fella!

159 JeremyM   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:32 pm

[153] I saw that. Not sure what to think of it as far as Gehrig goes. Concussions are really a scary thing. Some people think they had a lot to do with the deal where the wrestler killed his family as well.

160 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:34 pm

I have tix for tomorrow's game .... nosebleed seats .... sec 434a ... anyone wanna join me?

161 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:34 pm

[150] I saw it. It's an interesting thought, but if he isn't named in the study how strong can the implication be?

162 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:35 pm

Rocket Robbie! MVP!

163 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:36 pm

Well struck, Robbie.

164 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:36 pm

[154] Quite a few reasonable moves have blown up in Cashman's face.

165 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:37 pm

[160] Aww, thanks for the offer, Diane. I was in Brooklyn the last couple of weeks and were I still there, I'd take you up on it!

Alas.

166 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:38 pm

153) i read the article...something strikes me as bogus. I mean, no one doubts that Lou Gehrig's Disease exists, right? And he was diagnosed with the disease (not yet called by that name of course) at the time by doctors, and the disease followed the predictable course with Gehrig, and there is anecdotal evidence that fits ALS.

It sounds like they are simply using shocking but entirely speculative implication---Gehrig may not have died from ALS but from bean balls!!!---to generate buzz for their paper, which may indeed have real scholarly merit otherwise.

167 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:39 pm

[166] He wasn't only diagnosed by doctors...but some of the best in the country at the time. Definitely sounds like a way to get publicity.

168 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:39 pm

164) yep. Such is the life of an MLB GM. That, and the fact that you can't predict baseball.

169 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:40 pm

The Yankees have been on a strike out tear in August.

170 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:41 pm

K'ing on 3 pitches without swinging is impressive.

171 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:41 pm

Leyland is a bit of a chessmaster himself this evening.

172 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:43 pm

so, Thames has been working with Gardner, I see?

173 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:44 pm

Jeez, Inge had more time to make that play and throw to second, since Swish had to hold up.

174 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:50 pm

Sac fly, we'll take it!

175 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:50 pm

We'll take it.

176 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 9:53 pm

And now...the Eighth Inning.

177 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:00 pm

Ball down the middle, Cabrera flies out, slider off the plate last night, finds its way to the seats.

178 JeremyM   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:02 pm

[167] Well, the theory is that the symptoms are such that they are only just now recognizing the difference, so even the best doctors could not tell the difference until now. The way I read it is that the end result (the symptoms) are the same, but it can be caused either through brain/spinal trauma or through ALS.

Did Gehrig really suffer from that many concussions though? He played football during the leather helmet era if I'm not mistaken, which many feel was safer than playing in pads and so forth. I suppose he could've been hit on the head by a pitch a few times, and I do seem to recall a pretty bad incident that nearly ended the streak.

179 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:04 pm

177) there's a famous saying that really sums up that sort of thing. Now, how does it go? That guy who announces Yankees games says it all the time, but I just can't remember it exactly.

180 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:07 pm

The Angels are 20-28 vs. Boston since 2000. I would have guessed closer to 4-44

181 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:08 pm

[180] That's only at Fenway.

182 Diane Firstman   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:08 pm

I wonder if the Yanks have to get a referral from their PCPs in order to get an MRI. :-p

183 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:09 pm

The Tigers announcers are talking about Mo, which got me thinking...I wonder if Mo is driven at all to get the all time saves record. At this stage in his career, he would probably have to play two seasons after Hoffman retires to catch him.

184 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:11 pm

Mo.

185 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:11 pm

hey just fair - saw the pic, that is freaky - he could definitely see him hissing at us.

186 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:13 pm

Damn. Just missed it.
[185] No doubt. : )

187 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:15 pm

AGGGGGHHH!

188 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:16 pm

Damn, thought Jeter had that. Mistimed his jump.

189 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:16 pm

hahhahahahah!!!

This shit just never gets old.

Did you see that?

190 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:17 pm

yep, that goodness for cc.

191 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:18 pm

189) ???

192 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:18 pm

[183] Gods don't keep records..

193 williamnyy23   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:18 pm

[178] That definitely makes sense, but it doesn't seem as if the study examined any of Gehrig's medical records, if they still exists, so it make no sense to make a broad guess.

194 Just Fair   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:19 pm

All rise. Whoo-hooo.
CC's The Man. Mo is Mo.

195 ms october   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:19 pm

nice to get back in the win column - good overall performance

196 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:20 pm

Mariano Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

(You know, it's getting to where I feel like crying every time I see the guy work--both in ever deepening appreciation for his greatness and the horrific thought that one day he'll be gone.)

197 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:21 pm

[191] (Oh, just that one pitch little dinky roller Mo got. Just so sweet.)

198 jjmerlock   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:22 pm

[180] That's amazing. Sure seemed to me like the Angels might as well crawl in backwards when they enter Fenway.

In fact, I refuse to acknowledge those stats.

My brain insists that no one rolls over like the Angels do for the Red Sox. It's one of the reasons I refuse to believe their manager is anything special. He's had ten years plus to figure it out, and they still are the Red Sox' lackeys. 20-28? Really???

199 monkeypants   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:23 pm

197) ah.

200 jjmerlock   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:26 pm

[143] I insist that our comments inspired Jeter...

also, his game last night was still awe-inducing in its awfulness

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201 JeremyM   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:31 pm

I still don't know how the Angels swept the Red Sox out of the playoffs last year. As Raf said earlier, the mind boggles.

202 Raf   ~  Aug 17, 2010 10:47 pm

[201] You just can't predict baseball

203 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Aug 17, 2010 11:06 pm

[202] THAT'S IT! That's the saying mp [179] was looking for!
Man, he owes you a beer, Raf!

204 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 17, 2010 11:06 pm

good win -- how about 8 more in a row so I can feel less depressed?

205 Chyll Will   ~  Aug 18, 2010 12:00 am

[115] Sorry, I am commencing a CPU upgrade, so I missed your request. I'll tell you about Jerome Pizza in Bedford Park and Joe's Pizzeria on 233rd in Wakefield another time. But in the meantime, rest and homemade fall-of-the-bone ribs... >;)

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