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We’re working on a new look for Banter and a beyond beta version accidentally appeared last night. We’re still trying to work out the kinks and get things back to normal. It’s completely my fault and I apologize for the disruption.

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1 Jon DeRosa   ~  Oct 1, 2010 8:48 am

Thought it had a lot of nice features Alex. Looking forward to the fully operational version.

2 williamnyy23   ~  Oct 1, 2010 8:58 am

Dressing the old place up, eh? I liked the subway silhouette and the graffiti style "Alex Belth", but you need to keep the Weaver quote. Separating the posts with tabs is also a nice idea (might keep some interesting topics “fresh”). The one thing I didn’t like was the appearance of the comments, especially the nesting and lack of numbers.

3 The Hawk   ~  Oct 1, 2010 9:05 am

I missed it, but if it didn't already have it, may I suggest something that shows which post have the most active comments section in the last 12 hours or something? There are times when there is an interesting discussion (often non-baseball-related) that gets abandoned I think because it's buried.

I mean it's good that you guys post as often as you do, but that is a sort of unfortunate side effect.

4 rbj   ~  Oct 1, 2010 9:09 am

If it's going to feature something like that dame above, I approve.

Alright, who's ready for a sweep in Bahstahn?

5 Alex Belth   ~  Oct 1, 2010 9:23 am

3) I was actually thinking about a feature where every morning we do a comment of the night, and do a seperate post for the best comment of the previous day.

Hey, this is as good a time as any to bat some ideas around. What would you guys like to see?

6 Jon DeRosa   ~  Oct 1, 2010 9:38 am

Along the lines of [3], is there a way that the most "active" thread can be displayed prominently at all times? In the same way you had the "featured post"

7 OldYanksFan   ~  Oct 1, 2010 9:41 am

Alex..... The 'feature' most used and refreshed is the COMMENTS section. In the Beta version, it was much narrower and seemed to have smaller text. Is there a way to have JUST the comments on a full width page, so scrolling up/down is easier?

Also, if the comments are HTML compatible, it would be nice if you could make a comment in a fixed width font... for showing table type info.

Please keep an eye on Text Size. Is there really a reason to make it small? One size larger doesn't take up that much room.

8 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 1, 2010 10:11 am

I'd like a wet bar .... and a pony .. (I was promised a pony).

9 Diane Firstman   ~  Oct 1, 2010 10:14 am


Can we call it "Comment Alley View"?

10 Ben   ~  Oct 1, 2010 10:28 am

Anything you can do to keep all posts active and visible would be great. I remember when Cliff stepped down, I missed the news because there were a few other entries right after that, taster's cherce and beat of the day.

I love the idea of each day having a menu of thumbnails for each day. One for beats of the day, one for taster's choice, one for breaking news, one for other baseball writings... etc. then within each category there could be a run of all the latest postings that fit therein.

Not sure if that fits with your software capabilities.

And if Diane gets a pony, I would like ... I would like a trip to Europe.

11 Mattpat11   ~  Oct 1, 2010 10:40 am

Like I said last night, I really like the idea of separate tabs up top. I also like the comment of the day idea

12 rbj   ~  Oct 1, 2010 12:15 pm

[8] I want a blue pony.

obscure Carol Burnett show reference

13 Chyll Will   ~  Oct 1, 2010 1:18 pm

[9] We!

14 The Hawk   ~  Oct 1, 2010 2:18 pm

[3] That's a fine idea too but I'd really like to know where the action is, so to speak.

It's okay when game threads abruptly halt because a wrap-up post has appeared, because usually any meaningful (*ahem*) discussion jumps to the new thread. But if it's about a movie or music, or something else not happening at the moment, more often than not they seem to die before their time. I think as [6] says, most active post. I mean, it would be helpful to just have the top few active posts in any given 12 or 24 hour period.

15 thelarmis   ~  Oct 1, 2010 3:32 pm

ugh. i hate change. if it was anything like the look of last nite, i'll be miserable...

and the timing of this right at the playoffs makes me even more uneasy...

: (

16 Alex Belth   ~  Oct 1, 2010 4:13 pm

15) Change equals Death, huh?


17 thelarmis   ~  Oct 1, 2010 4:24 pm

[16] yeah, i'm no good with it. then again, i was really worried when we moved here and i didn't like the layout at first. got used to it quick-like and i loves it. i hope the new look is *exactly* the same as it is now! : )

congrats on the new book!!!

18 cult of basebaal   ~  Oct 1, 2010 6:51 pm

It's hard to say without seeing the new look in it's entirety, but I'm sorta on the fence on what we saw last night.

The idea of subject tabs seems like it could work well to cut down on the clutter which I think would be for the better and might keep some non-baseball posts active.

I'm not sure I'm liking the nesting layout. With the current layout, you know exactly where you need to be to be with everyone else (at the end) and it's great for following the hive "mind" of the Banter crew as we all react at the same time and in the same place to events in the game.

Obviously, nested responses make it much easier to follow an individual topic within the thread, it just sorta feels to me that nested responses tend to spread people all over the page and you just don't have the same ability to follow the flow of a "banter" as it evolves over the course of a game.

I'm not sure that the software can handle it, but I like the setup that Baseball Think Factory has, where it shows the most recent comments on the 10 or so most recently commented articles/posts, so you can see what is drawing comments and it's possible to know when older threads get new life (which, again, might help sustain some of the non-game threads that can tend to get lost along the way).

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