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Cliff Lee vs. Andy Pettitte–let’s chat. No matter how Lee fares tonight, and I assume he’ll pitch well once again, I’ve got a bad feelin’ about Andy.

Am I just being dramatic? My Spidey Sense is tinglin’.

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Categories:  Bronx Banter  Game Thread  Playoffs  Yankees

Tags:  2010 alcs  Andy Pettitte  cliff lee

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27 comments

1 The Hawk   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:03 pm

I hope Andy is dandy. I certainly don't feel like watching a train wreck. Let's at least make it competitive. A Rod needs to explode I think. I can see the Yanks getting to Lee. Let's GO!!!

2 bp1   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:04 pm

I'm sick of talk radio frothing at the mouth about Cliff Lee. I say the Yankees win this one the old fashioned way. Grind out at bats and get Lee out of the game after 6, and then win it vs the bullpen.

Andy will deliver a quality start and win his 20th post season game.

(knocking on wood, etc etc)

3 Ben   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:09 pm

October baseball in the Bronx with Andy on the mound. Win or lose, everything feels right about the set up.

Eff Cliff Lee. I love him. But he's pitching for the other team so Eff that guy.

4 ironhorse   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:32 pm

I'm with 1-3 here. Let's stop listening to all the talk on the radio -- guys who have never played, playing the games for us before the players do. Nothing is guaranteed, and having Pettitte on the mound for game 3 is excellent. Cliff Lee be damned.

I like our chances just fine, so let's sit back and enjoy it. No need to get tense until the 9th inning, when the Yanks are only up by five. And even then...

5 Alex Belth   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:34 pm

4) Wow, that's waaaay too rational. But I likes it. Thanks!

6 boslaw   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:34 pm

With Andy on the mound in the postseason, although we may lose, I can just never believe it possible until it actually happens (and even then, I can't believe it happened).

7 thelarmis   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:49 pm

i have a good feeling about andy. tex & a-rod need to wake up. jeter needs to continue to set the table and his success off lee.

i'll miss most of the game. by the time i get home, i hope lee is outta the game and Andy's on his way to postseason victory #20.

i'll be tense all day, but really, there's nothing i can do. just hope hard that the yankees win.

GO ANDY!!! GO YANKS!!!

8 seamus   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:54 pm

[7] nothing you can do? nostralarmis? i don't buy that for a sec.

9 seamus   ~  Oct 18, 2010 1:59 pm

There are yankee lovers and haters in the media. The yankee haters jump on any opportunity they can to make doom seem imminently unavoidable. The others are just as quick to jump on the bandwagon. It's kind of interesting in it's own way I guess but annoying as hell otherwise.

10 thelarmis   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:05 pm

[8] i'll do my best! need to find some time between drum lessons ; )

11 Dimelo   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:11 pm

I hope it's a good game, especially now that I just found out I'm going. They have no other choice than to give me a nice showing, I won't accept anything less.

12 Will Weiss   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:20 pm

[0] As Fred Durst would say, "I'm in agreeance." I feel like the Yankees are very lucky to be coming home even at 1-1. The advantage that the Yanks might have facing Lee is that they've faced him several times, so they could employ the same strategy they used to against Pedro. The difference is that Lee doesn't get tired. I'm not surprised they chumped against Colby Lewis, because a) they hadn't faced him in a while and b) he changes speeds.

The key with Pettitte isn't so much him, it's the strike zone of the home plate umpire. If he's getting squeezed on the corners, he's effed and we could be looking at a Game 6-2001 WS scenario.

13 Just Fair   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:21 pm

It's simple to me. After getting shut down essentially by Wilson and Lewis, the Yanks will undoubtedly bomb what's his face.

14 Jon DeRosa   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:33 pm

anybody remember the atmosphere around the 1986 NLCS? i'm glad we're rejecting the casting cliff lee in the mike scott role.

well, at least we're rejecting it for now. after tonight, maybe he gets the part...

15 williamnyy23   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:35 pm

I dont expect to Andy to pitch poorly tonight, but if so, it wouldn't be the first time in October. After all, based on game score, Pettitte only has one of the top-20 postseason performances in Yankee history (#20), but owns six of the 20 worst.

Also worth noting is the Yankees aren't hitting and the Rangers are, which counts for something. If those trends hold, the Yankees are in trouble no matter whom they face. The bottom line is Tex and Arod need to start hitting.

16 williamnyy23   ~  Oct 18, 2010 2:36 pm

[14] Scott is one example when the hype was merited. Even the Mets admitted they wanted no part of Scott in a possible game 7.

17 seamus   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:04 pm

[15] Hopefully being back at the stadium does the trick.

18 thelarmis   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:06 pm

[12] good point on the ump.

this from espn stats & info:

But neither starting pitcher will be excited to have Jim Reynolds calling balls and strikes. Lee is 0-2 with a 4.34 ERA in three career starts with Reynolds behind the plate, while Pettitte has fared even worse. The Yankees hurler is 1-4 with a 6.90 ERA, and a K/BB ratio less than two, in six career starts with Reynolds behind the dish, while allowing a batting average of .354.

19 seamus   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:07 pm

[18] uh oh. I haven't liked the strike zones in this series already. Could it really get worse?

20 Just Fair   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:12 pm

[19] Did you catch game one of the Phils-Giants series? The zone was the size of a batting glove. What a joke! Lincecum and Holliday were none too pleased.

21 seamus   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:24 pm

[20] no i didn't. The strike zone thing has been really bugging me lately for whatever odd reason.

22 Horace Clarke Era   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:29 pm

[18] that's what I was hoping (?) someone would dig up when I read Will's comment ... that's bad for Andy because, unfortunately, even though a tight zone is tight for both pitchers Lee is a legend on his own mound for control, and umps are inflluenced by that as much as by batters like Bonds who 'never swing if it wasn't a strike'.

In a funny way, Alex, there is so much reason to be glum (even no rain forecast now, which might have let us skip AJ tomorrow!) I am getting zen-like and just saying that all the numbers and hype disappear, it happens on the field.

23 Alex Belth   ~  Oct 18, 2010 3:32 pm

22) Say word! LET'S GO YANKEES!

24 FreddySez   ~  Oct 18, 2010 4:35 pm

NYT City Room blog brings this nugget:

Freddy Schuman was dancing when he had his heart attack the other day. Went out dancing, with Suzie at his side, at age 85.

What a wonderful kick in the head that is.

A commenter there has a great idea: Everyone headed to the park tonight, bring a spoon and something to bang it on.

25 omarcoming   ~  Oct 18, 2010 5:45 pm

I imagine that Andy is the second coming of Whitey Ford. Let's hope that A.J. tomorrow is not a redux of Artie Ditmar in the 1960 World Series.

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