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Stand Tall or Don't Stand At All

Time for a big start from A.J. and some big hits from the Yankee hitters.

It’s an afternoon affair at Comerica and we’ll be cheerin’:

Let’s Go Yank-ees!


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1 OldYanksFan   ~  May 5, 2011 12:50 pm

Via Lohud: (ouch)
Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson CF
Jorge Posada DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez SS

2 Alex Belth   ~  May 5, 2011 12:55 pm

That's okay, Yanks will still rock today!

3 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 1:11 pm

[1] I think that's a fine lineup, OYF.

'Course, it didn't score any runs yet, but . . . lots of ballgame left!

4 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 1:16 pm

I really don't like watching AJ Burnett pitch

5 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 1:24 pm

The Yanks have played sloppy ball for a sustained period of time. I hope that's not going to be a hallmark of this team.

6 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 1:29 pm

[5] Does it matter as long as they keep winning?

I'm not trying to be flippant, BTW, I'm mostly serious. If the sloppiness leads to an 84 win season, I'll be quite upset. But if the Yanks were to win only 84 games, I think it would be due to other factors (Jeter's near-replacement level OBP getting 700 PAs, for example).

7 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 1:48 pm

A run or three would be nice here.

8 OldYanksFan   ~  May 5, 2011 1:50 pm

You could see Robbie try to pull that outside pitch... and the resultant weak grounder to 2nd base.

9 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 1:51 pm

[6] Nothing matters if they keep winning, but they are 5-5 in the last 10, which is the span of games to which I am referring. Also, those other factors are what make the errors so costly because they limit the margin for error.

Meanwhile, Cano needs to refind the strike zone or he is going to stop seeing pitches in it.

10 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 2:06 pm

The Eric Chavez experience was nice while it lasted. Too bad for him. He really would have had a great career if his body cooperated.

11 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 2:12 pm

[10] Any word on the injury?

12 ny2ca2dc   ~  May 5, 2011 2:13 pm

I've got five on a linsfranc for Chavez. 'memba those fun things. And I was really loving the rare legit bench.

13 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 2:15 pm

[11] No update, but he limped off the field and they were looking at his foot in the dugout.

14 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 5, 2011 2:18 pm

Oh, fuck, what happened to Chavez?

Fucking fuck.

That's it, we've had it.

15 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 2:23 pm

Nunez inability to make routine throws could really hold him back.

16 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 2:29 pm

At least Boston is losing (3-0 in the 3d).

17 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 2:29 pm

HUGE strikeout after falling behind (being squeezed?)!

18 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 2:38 pm

[10] the A's have always had a lot of those guys, Bobby Crosby is the first one to come to mind...even though he wasn't that good.


19 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 2:40 pm

[18] Maybe the moneyball approach needs to incorporate better genetic engineering?

20 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 2:46 pm

[19] well Ben Grieve had pretty good genes, and we all remember how that turned out

21 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 2:50 pm

Didn't the run allowed DQ Burnett's no hitter anyway?

22 thelarmis   ~  May 5, 2011 2:51 pm

of course, 20 seconds after i noticed AJ had a no-no going, it's broken up...

[18] bobby crosby's wife is almost as hot as mark kotsay's!

it was only a matter of time with chavez. let's hope he plays again late in the season...

23 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 2:52 pm

Smilin' Bob Lorenz really needs to call more games

24 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 2:53 pm

[20] He did stay relatively healthy with the Athletics and actually had a very good career. It just ended at a very young age.

25 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 2:54 pm

[21] Nope...runs have nothing to do with a no hitter...only no hits and at least 9 inning pitched.

26 thelarmis   ~  May 5, 2011 2:54 pm

crap. or, with the toaster-like comments setup, maybe i should say "carp."

27 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 2:57 pm

lousy way to lose the lead.

28 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 2:59 pm

[24] health wasn't really an issue with him, but those numbers went off a cliff once he left Oakland. Granted he ended up on a terrible Tampa Bay team, but he peaked at 24, that's never a good thing.

#youknowitsgetawaydaywhen we're having conversations about the early '00's A's outfield

29 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 3:00 pm

[21, 25] didn't Doc allow a run in his no-hitter in '96, I feel like the final in that game was 4-1. It was a cool moment, but a very sloppy no-no.

30 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 3:00 pm

6-0 Angels.

31 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:00 pm

[29] No runs, but I believe about six walks.

32 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 3:01 pm


33 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:05 pm

Said this last night, but losing 5 of 8 to teams playing as poorly as the White Sox and Tigers is not the way to go about winning a division.

34 Diane Firstman   ~  May 5, 2011 3:06 pm


and he can throw all of them for strikes (though it takes his poor catcher 7 minutes to go through a single sign) :-)

35 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 3:07 pm

[32] The Yanks have 8 hits and 2 walks. IIRC, Leyland let Verlander throw 127 pitches the other night.

The soft, chewy underbelly of the Tigers' bullpen - or their tired starter? Seems like a win-win situation to me.

Anyone hear any news about Chavez?

36 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 3:18 pm

Sheesh. AJ's wildness is really causing problems today, huh?

37 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 3:22 pm


38 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 3:24 pm

[36] Not as many as Nunez's.

39 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:24 pm

At least this should put an end to the absurd calls for Nunez to play more at SS. I really hope this his is last game at SS.

40 RagingTartabull   ~  May 5, 2011 3:24 pm

bring back Erick Almonte please

41 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:27 pm

Chavez as fractured little toe.

42 Diane Firstman   ~  May 5, 2011 3:28 pm

Free Ramiro Pena!

43 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 5, 2011 3:29 pm

Why can't this team score runs?

44 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 5, 2011 3:29 pm

[41] That's good, right?

45 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 3:33 pm

9-0 Angels in the 6th, rain moving in from the west.

46 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 3:33 pm

[42] Ugh. I'd take Nunez's throwing errors over the guy "hitting" .233/.313/.384 at AAA, with 17 strikeouts. I also believe he's hurt, perhaps significantly.

[39] OK then, who's the backup SS? C'mon, dude. Nunez has played 14 innings in the field so far. 14! You're ready to banish him over 14 innings?

47 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:36 pm

[44] Actually no...considering his history, that could be a month long recovery.

48 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:37 pm

[46] He has 5 errors in 21 innings. His error totals in the minors are very high. Yes, I am ready to banish him. If your SS can't field the ball, he isn't a SS.

49 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 3:38 pm

Nunez has 5 errors on the year according to the box score. Can that be right?

50 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 3:41 pm

[46] Doesn't Nunez have a long history of terrible throws?

51 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 3:42 pm

And the real Boone Logan is back too.

52 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 5, 2011 3:46 pm

[47] Sigh.

53 Shaun P.   ~  May 5, 2011 3:48 pm

[48] "If your SS can't field the ball, he isn't a SS."

This is not fair of me, but I feel compelled to say it anyway - sorry in advance - then again, who plays SS? Because we all know Jeter's ability with the glove . . . and by your criteria, he should have been banished from the position years ago.

[50] I don't know - but I'm not ready to cast him off just yet. Especially when the Yanks don't have a real alternative anywhere near the majors (Pena can't hit, and so doesn't count.) I also wouldn't rely on high error totals in the minors as a reason. Guys have to learn, right? Can't learn without making some mistakes.

54 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 3:50 pm

[53] He obviously hasn't learned yet.

55 williamnyy23   ~  May 5, 2011 3:51 pm

[53] Jeter plays SS as much as possible. Before the game he said the hip wasn't causing him no discomfort and wasn't a concern. On those rare occassions when a sub is needed, you use a player who you know can field the ball.

Also, my criteria doesn't banish Jeter. In fact, it elevates him. Although a SS with the range of a Feliz would be nice, Jeter's surehandedness is fine with me.

Nunez is 24. That's past the point of learning how to field and throw. Minor league error totals do mean something when a player is that advanced.

56 Marek   ~  May 5, 2011 4:06 pm

10 hits, 9 of them singles. Geez.

57 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 4:06 pm

Well, that didn't go well at all

58 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 4:24 pm

"We don't believe this is who he is"

Well, who the hell do we think he is?

59 Diane Firstman   ~  May 5, 2011 4:32 pm

I wonder, after Jeter gets his 3,000th hit this year, he might just up and retire after 2011? If he continues to hit as poorly as he has for the first 5 weeks, will his pride or stubbornness win out?

He fought for a way-over-market-value deal last off-season, but even he must realize he is losing the inevitable battle against time now.

He has all the money he could ever want ... he'll make the Hall ... does "going out on his own terms" mean walking away ... or being pushed?

60 Mattpat11   ~  May 5, 2011 4:37 pm

[59] Well, especially since the Yankees have a successor waiting in Nunez...

61 Bruce Markusen   ~  May 5, 2011 5:38 pm

The Yankees basically played today's game as if they were a Double-A team. Three errors, no offense, no clutch hitting, no power. Burnett was the best thing about the game, and even he had his rough spots in that seventh inning, with the walk and the hit-by-pitch. I'm not panicking because they are still in first, and the Red Sox got clubbed, but a game like today is one in which the front office and the fans did not get their money's worth.

62 Ken Arneson   ~  May 5, 2011 6:15 pm

Had to laugh at [14]. That's exactly my experience for the last half decade.

63 Chyll Will   ~  May 5, 2011 6:32 pm

[59] If it's anything like Bernie (and I can't imagine why not), I don't see even Girardi surviving the fallout. Joe's been extremely hesitant to mess with Jeter beyond waiting for a serendipitous moment to sit him down for a minute, and unless he decides to move Jeter out of the top of the lineup for even a little while, he's likely going to lose the clubhouse by the end of the year (that is, if Jeter continues on his current track). I say wait until the end of May or maybe into the ASB before we decide what Jeter is this year, then there's no reason to not move him if you have to. Btw, what are the odds that if he continues to be, er, poor that we see a Reyes rental by or at ASB?

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