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Setting the Table

As the trade deadline gossip heats up, the Yanks are in the mix. They split the double header yesterday dropping the the first game (ugh). Tonight, gives the return of Masahiro Tanaka, our guy!

Never mind the frontrunners:

Let’s Go Yank-ees!

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1 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 6:12 pm

Definitely need at least one SP. Tigers broadcasters seem to think Michael Fulmer is going to be traded

2 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 6:22 pm

Nice, Tanaka

3 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 6:43 pm

Masahiro Houdini

4 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 6:57 pm

Interesting article from Mike Axisa today over at RAB, entitled, "Three reasons Yankees should make Miguel Andujar available at the trade deadline"

http://riveraveblues.com/2018/07/three-reasons-yankees-make-miguel-andujar-available-trade-deadline-174411/

5 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:01 pm

really not interested in Machado, contrary to O's announcers

6 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:02 pm

How about Britton as another arm out of the pen. could drop Shreve

7 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:06 pm

[5] Especially since he's continued to insist he's a SS only ...

8 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:09 pm

[4] Saw that, I like Miggy Jr. and think he’ll get better, but Drury is here and we can’t keep running Gray out there every five days.

No to Machado ar SS. We’ve got Didi, plus he’s Dutch, just like my grandmother.

9 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:09 pm

heard owes were shopping Machado if teams were willing to take Adam Jones too.

10 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:12 pm

[8] Those defensive stats are ... something, though I'd have to do a deeper dive into other 3rd basemen to know how unusual they are.

No to Machado at SS because ... he's got potentially historically bad defensive numbers at SS this year ... well, and we've already got Didi.

11 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:16 pm

[10] yeah, though I think Mikes conclusion is simply that he has no range

12 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:18 pm

Crap

13 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:18 pm

BUGGER.

14 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:18 pm

that sucks

15 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:19 pm

[11] Andujar or Machado?

(Actually it's probably both)

16 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:20 pm

What in the world was that?

17 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:21 pm

Awwww, c'mon Kenny ... ya got to go with a "Baltimore Chop" reference there!

18 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:22 pm

[15] Miggy Jr.

19 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:25 pm

oy.

20 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:27 pm

[18] Well, yeah, I think this makes it pretty clear as to his conclusion:


That’s a long way of saying if you hit the ball at Andujar, he’s going to make the play. Hit the ball anything more than a step or two away from him in either direction, and he’s probably not going to make the play.

I'm just wondering what the "average" 3rd baseman looks like in those Inside Edge stats ...

21 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:29 pm

Finally. Yankees quite capable of scoring three plus of these Os

22 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:30 pm

[4] I still don't think any of those reasons are strong enough to part with him. You could flip it the other way and say, "what if he gets support and/or becomes better?" Look at Sevi last year; some people were calling for the Yanks to demote or trade him for value because he was promising yet inconsistent (until the playoffs where he took off), but in the offseason he spent time training with Pedro and has kicked ass this season. Andujar (or any of the young guys for that matter) could ostensibly do the same with enough incentive or encouragement. I really don't understand the impatience at this point.

23 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:31 pm

I think it is pen time.

24 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:37 pm

just a foul ball. Walk in business

25 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:38 pm

I wouldn't trade andujar unless we get a legit #2 SP with some years of control

26 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:40 pm

Bird. Word.

27 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:40 pm

Bird is the word!

28 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:42 pm

[22] I don't think Axisa's being impatient in that article at all, simply realistic. Little Miggy has some exciting aspects to his game, he's got some obvious flaws. He might get better, he might not.

Axisa isn't saying "ERMAGH, HE SUCKS, TRADE HIM" ... he's saying, "if he's the last piece your need to make a significant trade that you think will improve the club this season (and hopefully bring home it all) ... it shouldn't be off the table"

About damn time from Bird!

29 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:44 pm

RE Machado at SS ... from an article over at theringer.com:


The other chief offender is the Orioles’ best player, Manny Machado, who while enjoying his best-ever season at the plate is also en route to the worst defensive season on record. Not just his own worst defensive season—the worst for any player, at any position (positional adjustments aside). Machado has already reached negative-20 DRS this year—that’s the second-worst total at any position in 2018, on a list that also includes Jones and Mancini in the bottom five—and is thus on pace to hit nearly negative-40 for the season. Since 2003, the worst single-season DRS total is negative-33, for Matt Kemp in 2010; only six players have gone even 30 runs under.

At his current pace, Machado will likely finish the season providing six-plus wins of offensive value while taking away two-plus wins on defense. The list of previous players who completed that dual feat includes notoriously bat-rich, glove-poor shortstops Hanley Ramírez and Michael Young and then a coterie of corner sluggers largely uninterested in the demands of defense. Machado might think he’s regular-season LeBron James now (in more ways than one).

Machado moved from third base to shortstop this year, but he didn’t bring his range with him. As Mark Simon from Sports Info Solutions, the parent company that oversees DRS, wrote last month, “Most shortstops who are bad at fielding the ball in one area are average or above at fielding balls in the other direction. But Machado is far below average in both,” routinely missing balls to both his left and right.

30 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:46 pm

Sigh

31 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:46 pm

I frickin said it was pen time

32 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:47 pm

#obligatorytanakahomerun

33 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:47 pm

watch out for Trumbo in that bandbox

34 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:48 pm

Tanaka has given up 17 HRS in 14 starts.

35 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:48 pm

Oh, Tanaka is still out there?

#obligatoryhomer

36 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:49 pm

[28] Fair enough. I still would roll the dice with Andujar like they did with Didi and Hicks. Even after that muthaF--- home run by Machado... ugh.

37 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 7:53 pm

nice Hold..er

38 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:00 pm

Damn, Hicks ripped that one. Bad luck.

39 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:09 pm

Gah ... Gio should have hit that first pitch about 800 feet.

Grrrrrrrr.

40 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:12 pm

First and third, one out, time for a DP.

41 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:13 pm

rbj, don't be such a pessimist

42 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:14 pm

If Didi had busted it out of the box, that would have been a hit.

It's amusing to hear announcers still talking about Adam Jones as an above average CF ...

From the same article on the O's above:


The problems start with the outfield, which isn’t too vast an improvement upon a hypothetical trio of Adam Dunn clones. Oriole outfielders rank last in DRS as a whole, DRS’s range factor specifically, and Statcast’s outs above average measure, which uses positioning and batted-ball data to compare how many plays a fielder should have made to how many he actually converted. Individually, among 241 outfielders this season, Trey Mancini ranks 237th in OAA, Adam Jones 236th, and Mark Trumbo—despite making only 13 outfield appearances—207th.

It’s a systemic issue, but not an unexpected one given those names. Mancini and Trumbo should play at first base or in the designated hitter slot, and Jones, while carrying a Gold Glove track record and still making the occasional highlight-reel grab, has been trending downward for years. His DRS results since his last Gold Glove, in 2014, have plummeted as follows: 4, minus-10, minus-12, minus-18 (so far).

43 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:14 pm

see? Bird gets a sac fly. 4 rbi tonight

44 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:15 pm

[42] Errr, triple.

45 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:17 pm

Oof, I'd have punched him out on that.

46 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:19 pm

[41] if I’m optimistic, I get disappointed. I prefer Eeyoreism

47 rbj   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:20 pm

I’ll take that

48 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:30 pm

I think that's in ... but yeeeeeesh.

49 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:30 pm

Ugh ... nope.

50 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:41 pm

Well, this has the feeling of one of those games ...

51 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:52 pm

Didi!

52 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 10, 2018 8:59 pm

I hate the fucking o’s. Goddammit.

53 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 9:07 pm

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

54 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 9:11 pm

[50] What was I saying ...

55 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 9:15 pm

No es bueno, Dellin ...

56 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 10, 2018 9:15 pm

Too good, that baltimore.

57 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 9:16 pm

Blech

58 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 10, 2018 9:18 pm

We should be going for a 4 game sweep ... instead we're hoping for a split.

GRRRRRRR.

59 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:11 pm

It's very hard to put sonny and stopper in the same sentence

60 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:14 pm

So it’s France vs, Croatia

61 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:19 pm

Sonny is more useless than a stopper without a bottle

62 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:32 pm

Usesless as a legless man at an ass kickimg contest.

63 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:47 pm

Hooray personal catcher! Not

64 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:49 pm

useless as teats on breast plate ...

65 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 6:50 pm

Phew!

66 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:00 pm

You have got to be FUCKING kidding me.

#NYYRISPFAIL

67 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:03 pm

Hey! A hit with #RISP!

68 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:07 pm

A run

69 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:09 pm

Four more! Greg flipped the Bird at the Orioles

70 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:11 pm

[68] 4 more!

71 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:20 pm

Nice from Sonny!

72 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:22 pm

Surprised no ones moving in the Os pen

73 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:24 pm

T WADE!

74 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:25 pm

Not what was needed GGBG.

Not. At. All.

75 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:26 pm

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?

GET THE FUCKING RUN IN!

76 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:26 pm

Well that was . . . underwhelming

77 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:28 pm

#NYYRISPFAIL.

78 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Wow. Great play, Sonny.

79 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Well, HELL, give Sonny a hand!

80 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:47 pm

Damn, fine catch. Tip your cap

81 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:53 pm

Bird with the stretch. My groin is hurting now

82 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:55 pm

Hmm, they’ve secretly replaced Sonny Gray with Folgers Crystals. And I like it

83 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 11, 2018 7:59 pm

Atta boy, Tyler!

84 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:01 pm

T WADE!

Great silent treatment on that homer!

85 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:10 pm

Get that ball back

86 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:19 pm

#obligatormachadohit

87 Boatzilla   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:41 pm

[82] HA! Good one. If Gray was a coffee, he'd definitely be instant. Only drinkable when there's nothing else.

88 Boatzilla   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:43 pm

My MLB Yankees feed says they made a serious offer for Manny. Sheffield's name has come up.

89 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:52 pm

If I were on the field against Stanton and I were:

A Pitcher - I would soil myself

An Infielder - I would wet myself

An Outfielder - I would run and hide

90 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:56 pm

[88] No. Didi is good enough. Where does Didi play? Miggy Jr. is in the running for ROY. Starting pitching only.

91 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 8:58 pm

[88] I hope not, that just seems the wrong thing to do.

If we trade Sheffield, it needs to be for a starter ...

92 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:04 pm

[90] Hah! Beat me to it!

:)

93 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:12 pm

Nicely done Syndrome!

94 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:13 pm

I’d trade one of Miggy Jr. or Brandon Drury and one of Lasagna or German for Michael Fulmer. Down year, but former ROY as a pitcher. Just spitballing here. Tigers are in sell mode

95 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:19 pm

Can we get double digits

96 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:20 pm

[89] Yeah, like I said ...

97 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:21 pm

It's nice to see Stanton with 4 hard non homer hits. Huzzah.

98 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:22 pm

Indians up 19-2. Just hope their hitting shoes are tired tomorrow

99 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:26 pm

Didi is sick.

100 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:27 pm

Why is my comment awaiting moderation? The Cleveland baseball team is up 19-2, er, now 4.

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101 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:27 pm

One down

102 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:29 pm

There’s two

103 rbj   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:32 pm

And three!
Nice win from Gray, who apparently isn’t useless and an assist from Shreve. And a second hitterish game from Bird.

Night all.

104 Boatzilla   ~  Jul 11, 2018 9:33 pm

Well. That's done. Next up, a starting pitcher?

105 GaryfromChevyChase   ~  Jul 11, 2018 10:29 pm

Baltimore rado says Yanjs made a serious offer for Machado, and that the Sawks made one too. I agree that if we give up assets it's for a SP.

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