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Over at SI.com, Joe Sheehan thinks the Angels did a great job getting Dan Haren:

Striking out of the blue, Angels GM Tony Reagins completed a trade that not only makes his team better over the next 10 weeks, but better over the next three seasons. By acquiring Dan Haren from the Diamondbacks without giving up any top prospects, Reagins set a high bar for his fellow GMs in the runup to the trade deadline, buying low on one of the game’s top starting pitchers.

…Based on their underlying skills, Haren should allow about 20-23 fewer runs down the stretch than Saunders would have, while also taking a handful of innings away from the bullpen. At the standard estimate of 10 runs gained or saved equalling one win, he makes the Angels two wins better. Essentially, this trade matches what the Rangers did in adding Cliff Lee; and in a race that could well be decided on the season’s final weekend, adding two to three wins is a huge improvement.

The Yanks are still in the market for bullpen help as well as a hitter to come off the bench.

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1 rbj   ~  Jul 26, 2010 8:39 am

Can't figure out that trade. Doesn't seem like AZ got much from the trade, just a gamble that someone might work out in the future.

2 williamnyy23   ~  Jul 26, 2010 9:36 am

We need to know the identity of the PTBNL before we can really assess this deal, but unless it is one of the Angels best prospects, it does make you wonder about the Dbacks motivation.

3 ms october   ~  Jul 26, 2010 9:41 am

was this basically just a salary dump?

booby valentine (who is a much more positive person than i thought he would be on tv) said he thought the angels would flip haren for offense - i thought that to be a bit weird.

4 RagingTartabull   ~  Jul 26, 2010 9:55 am

[3] Bobby also thinks of himself as in the running for the Cubs job, so yeah...grain of salt.

this is good old fashioned salary dump. Which is totally fine, lets just not give Reagins props for laying in the weeds and making some kind of brilliant strike...his brilliance was in picking up the tab.

5 Paul   ~  Jul 26, 2010 10:50 am

Here's hoping the Yanks get Soria. Send Joba on his way with two other arms and call it a deadline.

6 JohnnyC   ~  Jul 26, 2010 1:26 pm

Also, as has been noted in the media, Haren absolutely preferred playing on the West Coast. Saunders, Skaggs, and Corbin are all lefties...so there's that. But DiPoto's press conf comments centered on wins. Saunders second to Halladay in AL wins, Corbin leading the minors in wins... Yeah, this is a real fleece job.

7 RagingTartabull   ~  Jul 26, 2010 1:29 pm

Stark is reporting that at one point in negotiations the Yanks "dangled" Montero.

I was ok with giving up Montero for Lee, legitimate aces don't grow on trees. Giving him up for a reliever however, even one as good as Soria, I am totally against.

8 RagingTartabull   ~  Jul 26, 2010 1:29 pm

[7] negotiations with KC for Soria I meant to say

9 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 26, 2010 3:27 pm

[8] If the Cashman actually offered Montero for Soria and Dayton Moore actually turned it down, that would have been the biggest collection of stupidity on both sides of a trade that never happened that I've ever heard about.

10 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 26, 2010 3:34 pm

[2] From Goldstein over at BP

The best prospect of the lot is the PTBNL, or the guy expected to be named later: supplemental '09 first-rounder Tyler Skaggs. The reason he's not named yet is he hasn't put in a full pro season since signing, but he's generally assumed to be the player getting named later in this deal. Just 19 years old after getting selected out fo Santa Monica High School last summer, he's very long-bodied, standing 6'4" to 6'5", with a long arm as well as what I'd call long arm action. Currently, he's throwing 88-91 with his fastball, but it's expected that he'll touch 92 more consistently as he matures. That's decent for a lefty, but the key pitch in his curve, a true 12-to-6 pitch with a lot of late down break. He's got outstanding command and control for his age. It's the curveball that makes you say he could be a solid No. 3 in a big-league rotation—if everything works out—as it was one of the better breaking balls in the Midwest League this year.

Seems like a terrible, terrible deal for the Diamondbacks ...

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