"A New York Treasure" --Village Voice

Aces High

Yanks are in California for three games. Must-win time for the Angels who are chasing the Rangers for first place in the AL West. Tonight gives Jered Weaver.

Cliff’s got the preview.

Never mind the beautiful setting:

Let’s Go Yank-ees!

[Photo Credit: The Epiphanist]


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1 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 9:12 pm

Meanwhile, Rays are up 7-2 over the Sox. Some Massholes are going to be clenching a little tighter after tonite ...

Also, Swisher's out with arm soreness, so it seems like there was an underlying cause for his stretching and grimacing in between plays in the outfield last night.

2 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 9:13 pm

From LoHud:

Nick Swisher’s left elbow has bothered him from time to time, but not quite like it did on his first throw from the outfield yesterday.

“I threw it and said, ‘Wow, that didn’t’ feel right,’” Swisher said. “… I know what feels right, I know what doesn’t feel right. After yesterday’s game, I was like man, I’ve got to check this thing out. I don’t like going to the training room man, it’s not my thing. But there are some times. You can’t be a hard head all the time, man, and you actually have to go in there. We’ll just see what they say and figure it out from there.”

Swisher will see the Angels team doctor at some point, probably today. He’s expecting to play tomorrow, but it’s hard to know anything for certain at this point. Joe Girardi called Swisher day-to-day.

During these past three days — when the Yankees had that long rain delay, followed by the four-hour-plus game, followed by extra innings in Baltimore — Swisher actually played all three days, but that’s only after he’d been off on Monday. Girardi said he didn’t believe playing those three games had a real impact on the elbow.

“I think it’s just one throw, really, more than anything,” Swisher said. “I don’t know what it is, so I’m going to see the doctor and find out. So, we’ll see. I’m not nervous about it but I’d feel a lot better if the doctor said ‘hey man, this is what you’ve got. It’s going to be OK.’ Because I’ve never had something like this before. (This is) more sharp pains. Hopefully, it’s just a day-to-day thing.”

3 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 9, 2011 9:36 pm

Is that green triangle in the picture from Battlezone?

4 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 9, 2011 9:40 pm

The Red Sox making our lives a bit easier. They better hope Beckett's ankle is not in bad shape. He would be their 3rd Ace to go down....

5 RIYank   ~  Sep 9, 2011 9:47 pm

I swear I would rather have AJ than Lackey.

Also, there is a rather surreal highlight up on mlb.com of Joe Maddon being interviewed with Blue Man Group standing around in the background. Well, background and foreground.

6 RIYank   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:00 pm

Goodnight, Boston -- Papi whiffs to end it.
Unfortunately I'm heading out for the night and the place I'm going will definitely not have a tv. Still, I can relax knowing that the Yankees will have at least their 2 1/2 game lead. Mo is in his heaven and Jesus is here, amen.

7 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:15 pm

[5] That's not really debatable.

I think Paplebon's the only ML player I'd want on my team LESS than John Lackey.

Fuck that slack-jawed, mouth-breathing mope.

8 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:16 pm

Ten ME-109's out of the sun!

anyone? cult - you oughtta get that, bro!

9 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:17 pm

damn. i still love boBBy, but i'd really like him to suck this weekend.

10 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:19 pm

[6] ah, wish you were gonna be here...

have fun!

11 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:24 pm

Those are some dumb fucking hats the Angels are wearing.

12 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:26 pm

[8] Ascending and turning our spitfires to face them
heading straight for them I press down my guns!

13 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:27 pm

how in the world does this sound right to a speaker?! makes my skin crawl...

[emphasis mine]

Girardi said: “Soriano’s went a bunch of days in a row, Ayala’s went a bunch of days, Wade’s went a bunch of days, Logan’s went a bunch of days.”

14 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:29 pm

[12] my buddy!!! you ROCK!!!

how fucking *amazing* is that song. and album. and band!!!

15 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:30 pm

Fun interview with Reggie going on in the Angels booth right now ...

16 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:32 pm

[14] Yeah, great song, album and band.

It's a toss-up between that and Piece of Mind for my favorite Maiden album ...

17 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:34 pm

[15] ooh, nice!

[16] it's a tough call about which album, but "Hallowed Be Thy Name" is a pretty easy choice for favorite song...

18 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:40 pm


19 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:41 pm


20 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:41 pm

he hit the beJesus outta that thing!

21 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:41 pm

Jesus saves!

22 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:41 pm

Motherfucker can HIT!


23 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:42 pm

Can you say 'Off the Bat'?

24 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:42 pm

Turned on Gameday, first pitch I saw was a Jesus tater!! Preach it!!!

25 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:43 pm

Obviously, as he may not be able to be a starting Catcher, there is just no room on this team for Jesus.

26 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:46 pm

[17] Interesting.

Favorite album is a much easier choice for me than favorite song: Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, Powerslave, Flight of Icarus, Revelations, Drifter ... depends on my mood I guess.

27 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:46 pm

Player A: 18 AB, 3HR, 6 RBI, .389 .476 .889 1.365
GUESS WHO?!??!??!?!?!

28 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:47 pm

It's good to see him go yard on the inside pitch, he obviously is willing to go with the outside, but if he can turn on it as well, kid could be really something ...

29 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:48 pm


30 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:48 pm

Favorite album WAY ahaead of it's time.
Child is Father to the Man
Blood, Sweat and Tears w/Al Kooper

31 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:49 pm

How much is Scioscia hurting the team by playing Mathis every day? Such an over-rated manager.

32 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:54 pm

[30] we're talking specifically about Iron Maiden, 'coz the title of this here post, is "Aces High", which is a very famous Maiden tune...

[31] a lot. mathis is killin' it with the stick in tex-ass...

listenin' to kenny burrell live at the vanguard, 1986. blue note records. 2 cd's were released from this show. crazy that was a quarter century ago!

33 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 10:54 pm


34 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:00 pm

[32] Kenny Burrell is the Ken Singleton of jazz musicians. Under-rated, always brings the goods!

35 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:03 pm

[34] good analogy!

36 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:04 pm


37 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:05 pm

[35] Yeah, always so smooth (the good kind of smooth!) and swinging. And he's still out there gigging, right?

38 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:08 pm

Reggie looks old. :( Will always be my favorite though!

39 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:12 pm

The 'Tolo.

40 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:12 pm

Jesus went yard against the Angels? Who is the Anabaptist?

Michael Kay made the trip to the West Coast? Isn't that a first?

Colon through 4, has he been as good as the score would lead one to believe?

41 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:14 pm

If Kenny Burrell = Ken Singleton, who does Clifford Brown =?

42 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:14 pm

If Kenny Burrell = Ken Singleton, who does Clifford Brown =?

43 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:14 pm

OOOH. The Double post. How do I do this?

44 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:16 pm

[37] i think so. i have his 75th birthday concert cd. blue note released it a few years back. i think he's 80 now, and still going...

i just happened on these 2 discs. a lot of the old school cats came back in '85/'86, when BN was resurrected. most of those records are really good. like the 2cd Joe Henderson w/ ron carter & al foster, live at the vanguard. joe was blowin' his brains out in a trio setting! of course, the Tony band was the best. then, there were crappy 80's type of releases, like Stanley Turrentine and a coupla Freddie Hubbard. that said, Hub had some killer shit around then, too. esp an album with Woody Shaw.

anyway, i've been on a Yes kick lately! : )

45 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:16 pm

Damn, hit that well.

At 'em ball.

46 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:17 pm

i think Andruw's gonna have a coupla "clutch" moments in the postseason.

47 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:17 pm

[43] ah, just blame ken boyer!

48 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:18 pm

[44] You ever heard any of the stuff from when McLaughlin toured with Santana back in '73?

49 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:21 pm

[44] That Joe Henderson is superb.
[48] Never the live stuff, only the album they did together (Love, Devotion, Surrender). I imagine the live stuff is LOUD&FAST.
[42] Clifford Brown..dead at 25. Who's a comparable ballplayer?

50 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:21 pm

[40] He wanted to get away from the rain. I bet his wife is with him.

51 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:21 pm

[48] i know of that record on columbia. don't own it. may have heard something from it. i'm not a huge santana guy. i like some of it, don't have any though. (i know you'll wanna kill me for this. don't!)

52 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:22 pm

Man, I love the way Alex fires the ball over to first.

53 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:24 pm

weak, dj.

54 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:25 pm

[52] he's got a friggin' cannon!

55 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:27 pm

[53] Colon deserves better.

56 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:29 pm

"I"ve seen it [i.e., "the old Jeff Nelson"] work, I'm a changed man."

Kay is funny sometimes.

57 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:30 pm

[40] He was in Toronto, too!

58 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:31 pm

Bunt. Error. FC. Hit. Fuckin' Angels' baseball.

59 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:31 pm


60 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:32 pm

[49] The album is very, Very, VERY different than the live stuff.

Here's the lineup:

John McLaughlin - Guitar (double-neck)
Carlos Santana - Guitar
Khalid Yasin (aka Larry Young) - Organ, Keyboards
Doug Rauch - Bass
Billy Cobham - Drums
Armando Peraza - Percussions

Here they are covering "A Love Supreme":


[51] I just figured between the top-notch percussion and the stellar drumming (especially when Mike Shrieve was in the band) you'd be a fan, technically speaking ...

61 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:33 pm

[57] Maybe he's trying to get away from his wife.

62 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:33 pm

Nice pitch, Fat Bastard!

63 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:35 pm

{49} Thurman Munson?

I have the complete Brownie EmArcy Recordings box set, and have been listening lately. Truly breathtaking.

Nice that Tolo comes back with the SO of Abreu. He is a pro, and probably should be the Yankees #2 in the PS.

64 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:40 pm

Weaver held serve.

Time for Bar-to-lo to do his thing again ...

65 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:40 pm

Can you imagine the Weaver household when Jeff and Jarrod were kids? Whine with Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

66 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:41 pm

[60] Ooh, got to save that link. Cleaning up here and heading out with the jazz kids soon to the park (Sri Lanka festvial!) Anything with Billy Cobham I'll check out. And Johnny Mac in contention for best axe of all time!

[63] Hmm..by all accounts Clifford Brown was a quiet, kind guy that everybody loved..not much like Thurman..

67 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:41 pm

[60] that's some lineup! i don't think i realized cobham was in there. he's a hero of mine! yeah, peraza's no joke, man. i'll have to check it out sometime.

shrieve's on the cover of a small drum magazine right now. i just contacted them about possibly reviewing my cd.

68 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:41 pm

the younger weaver is good at pitching.

69 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:43 pm

[66] True dat. I was just thinking of someone who died young at their height of production.

70 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:45 pm

[66] yeah, i need to save that link, too. i wasn't familiar with that name for larry young. oh, and please don't call mclaughlin that, it's dreadful!!!

the guitarist from my jazz trio went to see Return to Forever last nite. Zappa Plays Zappa opened up. an old friend of mine sat in and played guitar w/ RTF. pretty cool. i was teaching, so i didn't go...

[63] i was just looking at my clifford brown memorial album on blue note. it happens to be right before the burrell stuff. (i keep my cd's in alphabetical/chronological order)

71 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:46 pm

[66] have fun with the jazz kids! i'll let you know if i get the fusion cd's tomorrow. if so, i'll send a copy along with my disc...

72 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:47 pm

the 'tolo is a lotta fun when he's on...

73 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:50 pm

[66] Yeah, one of my favorite and most memorable live music moments involved Johnny Mac.

Back in '95, the Bumbershoot Music Festival in Seattle hosted a Hendrix Memorial Tribute Concert with a ton of great guitarists, as well as Buddy Miles, Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding.

Anyways, the stage had a couple of total hotties go-go dancing on either side and when McLaughlin got his turn to play and then ripped into his solo during his cover of Fire, he locked into a total call-and-response solo back-and-forth with the smoking hot blonde go-go girl on his side of the stage.

It was both mind-blowingly awesome ... AND ... completely surreal ...

74 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:52 pm

weaver is not a lotta fun when he's on...

75 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:52 pm

Sack attack?

76 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:53 pm

[73] Now that's some REAL "Shakti" right there!

77 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:53 pm

[73] mmm, hot blonde go-go girl. mmm...

78 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:54 pm

[76] Shakti!!! omg, easily one of the *greatest* musical ensembles in the history of history!!! holy wow!!!

79 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:54 pm

damn. kimbrel blew a save. 2 bb's, 2 hits, 2 runs. braves just lost in extras. oh well...

80 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:56 pm

full sail amber ale, out of oregon is really really really good.

like...really good.

their pale ale is good too, but the amber ale...

really good : )

81 thelarmis   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:57 pm

cult - you on email right now?

82 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:58 pm

[78] Incredible. Listening to McLaughlin with those guys..and when he starts riffing with Zakir Hussein and Vikku it's just too crazy!

83 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:59 pm

[81] swhedges47 ... at ... gmail.com

84 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 9, 2011 11:59 pm

Jesus, Kay..you were a print journalist once! Anagram?!?!

85 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:00 am

[82] McLaughlin is great on A Tribute to Jack Johnson ... which also has an uncredited turn from Sonny Sharrock ... top notch Miles!

Mmmmmm ... Sonny Sharrock.

86 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:02 am

Is this a jazz blog or a baseball blog. You guys watching the game?

87 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:03 am

Sonny Sharrock & Pharoah Sanders: Many Mansions


88 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:04 am

[86] What? You can't multi-task?


Don't make me and Nostra get started on the metal!

89 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:05 am

[87] Ask the Ages!!! top-10 album for me!!
I'm delaying the Sri Lanka festival for this game.
[85] Love that album too, what a groove!

90 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:05 am



Montero smoked that one too ...

91 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:06 am

[83] ok, cool. i have the old yahoo addy...

[85] i think bill connors might also be uncredited on that... i just have the regular cd version, not the cool-ass box set.

that amazing mclaughlin riff in there, was taken by Fuze (dave fiuczynski) and turned into one of the coolest tunes ever, by one of the coolest bands ever - "smile in a wave" by screaming headless torsos.

holy crap - burrell just soloed on a 6-string banjo. ha! cool.

92 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:06 am

Gritner is *struggling* right now ...


93 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:07 am

well, Tolo kicked ass.

binder better say: Hamma...(to the) God.

94 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:08 am

[88] METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


95 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:08 am

C'mon Jeter, redeem your error, and help make Tolo a winner.

96 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:09 am


97 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:09 am

[88] Sure, let's talk about Stieg Larsson. I'm nearly done with the 2nd in the Millennium trilogy and it's knocking me out.

Jazz, go to the park already!

98 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:10 am

curtis is due.

99 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:11 am

curtis is now overdue...

100 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:11 am

SHITE. Let's get their bullpen.

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101 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:11 am


Fucking Angels brought their gloves to the park tonite.


102 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:13 am

[97] We could talk about Sons of Anarchy ... I just finished the 2nd season and am scrambling to finish the 3rd so I can get started on the new season that started on Tuesday!

103 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:13 am

Apparently, Trumbo is the real deal. AL ROY?

104 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:13 am

great pitchers duel bet SF & LA. kershaw is even doing a bit better than lincecum, but losing 1-0, on an unearned run...

105 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:17 am

[102] I'm not familiar with that one. What's it all about?

106 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:17 am

[105] what kinda blog is this anyway? aren't you watching the game?! ; )

107 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:19 am

[106] Touché. But I'm multitasking...

108 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:19 am

I"m even making coffee, too.

109 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:20 am


now - score some motherfucking runs!!!

110 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:20 am

Suck on on that Sciocia, you fat fukcing pig!

111 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:20 am

[107] i play drums for a living, all i do is multi-task.

[108] though i've never tasted coffee before...

112 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:21 am

Wait, my comment is in moderation? I can't call Sciocia a fat fucking pig?

113 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:21 am

[105] If you'd described it to me beforehand, I'd never had interest in watching.

I guess I'd call it a Biker Gang Soap Opera, that's as addictive as crack-flavored popcorn.

It's ridiculously over the top, and completely engrossing; every time you think they can't go further, they go further.

In other words, "this one goes to eleven" ...

114 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:21 am

[108: Just getting up, Boat? I'm out to the park soon as this game is over. Jazz Jr getting real antsy though! Had to promise him we'll get that nama coconut juice at the festival he loved last year :)

115 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:22 am

Uh, wait ... their closer is in the game ... I didn't think that was possible if it wasn't a "SAVE SITUATION"!!!

116 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:22 am

[66] Jazz, I think KB's Munson comparison is fair simply because of the impact he had on those around him versus the length of his career. There exists a list of players of various sports who died during their careers, and indeed there are some on that list who died at the same age as Clifford Brown, but few of those had the impact on his game that Munson had, comparable to their passing if you will. (I wish I could figure out a better way of stating it, but it's late...)

That is unless you believe Clifford Brown's impact on jazz is comparable to Roberto Clemente, and I wouldn't necessarily argue the point. Brown was tremendous in so short a period of time.

I won't link that list, since my response was more provoked from morbid curiosity which I don't wish to spread... but it's easy to wiki if you wish to find it.

117 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:23 am

C'mon Loaf Pincher!

118 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:24 am


119 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:24 am






120 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:24 am

a-rod's about to hit a 99mph into the rocks.

121 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:25 am

[112] Good watching, the new season gets very favorable reviews.

122 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:26 am

[114] I got up for the game, bitch!

123 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:26 am

[118] I'm guessing you'll need it... [120]

124 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:27 am

[118] are they warming in the 'pen?! good grief.

at least it's not proctor...

125 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:27 am

[115] Nice Chyll, will check that out.
A-Rod 38 taters in 95 games in Anaheim! Too bad he couldn't jack one there.

126 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:27 am

114] Nama? So it's right from the coconut? No sugar?

127 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:27 am

[121] Lucky was an 11am start here!

128 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:27 am

Oh Christ, pinch stand there.

129 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:29 am

It's nuts to pull ARod in a tied game on the road.

130 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:31 am

I hate this team.

131 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:31 am

[127] Happy?

132 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:31 am

Fucking stupid.

133 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:31 am

[127] I woke up at 10:15 and laid back down for 45 minutes.


134 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:32 am

What the fuck is Robbie swinging at?

135 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:33 am

[129] Good point. But doesn't Girardi always pull shit like that.

136 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:33 am

girardi is a fucking tool.

137 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:34 am

Aaron Laffey.


138 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:34 am

Wow. Lose ARod and use up 2 bench players for nothing.

139 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:35 am

[130] NO. Leave A-Rod in the GD game. Especially if we're going to stand around for an 0-2 count and THEN run. Thats worse than just standing there.

140 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:35 am

wow. GI Joe has really spit the bit this past week or two.

fucking cocksucker.

141 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:36 am

[138] Yep.

This game has loss written all over it..time to start getting the jazz kids ready..

142 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:36 am

Not feeling very confident right about now.

143 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:36 am

[138] Rhetorical question, son, rhetorical ...

144 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:36 am

doesn't tony pena have ANY say as the bench coach. zim was like the anti-torre and could sometimes talk him outta dumb shit. pena seems like he should be able to do the same. this is ridiculous!

145 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:37 am

This is Joe Girardi giving Bud Selig the middle finger right? You think I tried to lose games *last year?* Here's Aaron Laffey in the ninth inning!

146 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:37 am

[140] ready...to listen to METAL!!! : )

147 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:38 am

[141] No have faith. Jesus is gonna save us. Praise the lord.

148 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:38 am

here we go...

149 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:39 am

[139] Plus we end up with subpar D at 3rd. A-Rod has been a vacuum all night....grrrrrrrr

150 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:39 am

Yes, we desperately needed a second crappy lefty

151 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:41 am

[148] I really think he has like an egg timer in the dugout. When it dings, its time to MAKE A MOVE. That's when we make a nonsense replacement, bunt or IBB for no apparent reason.

152 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:41 am

d-rob only threw 13 frickin' pitches.

he could've started this goddamn inning...

153 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:41 am



My LEAST favorite Yankee of this entire year.

Yes, even less than AJ.

Shrug, it isn't *entirely* deserved, but what can I say ... he's my modern day Miguel Cairo ...

154 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:42 am

[150] You *HAVE* heard of The Binder, yah?

155 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:42 am

I HATE JoeyJoeJoe Girardi.


156 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:42 am

alright ayala. i'm all for you getting another DP, like the other night...

157 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:43 am

fuck you, ayala.

fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, GI Joe.

[152] do you believe cairo has SEVEN homeruns this season? 7.

158 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:44 am

Awful. And Mrs. Jazz is off at a wedding so I can't even get drunk at the festival...oh well.

159 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:44 am

You know, I really want to be in a pennant race next year. Never thought I'd say that, but I can't take another September like this.

160 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:44 am

Pena looks like the actor Darren E. Burrows who played Ed in the TV show Northern Exposure.

I will not lose sleep tonight over what is happening here. The Sox lost.

I just worry that the Angels will overtake Texas, and the Yankees will have to travel to Anaheim for the first round of the playoffs.

161 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:44 am

this sucks.

d-rob could've started this. if not, Mo.

this proctor, laffey, ayala shit in tight games in Sept is beyond ludicrous. he has to be stopped.

we could be running away with the fucking division. instead...this.

162 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:45 am

[153] Even I have a hard time believing The Binder says "Pinch Run Chris Dickerson for no reason"

163 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:45 am


fuck off, ayala.

164 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:46 am

i better start drinking faster...

165 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:47 am

oh, shit. *still* ayala????????????

166 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:47 am

Go Red Sox!

167 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:47 am

[161] You just have trouble with the definition of "no reason".

It's okay, we have logic classes for that ...

168 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:47 am

Good night. The Yankees should have won this game 1-0

169 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:47 am

joe girardi:



170 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:47 am

That's 3 losses in a row.

171 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:48 am

[158] You're gonna hafta get drunk now. The kids will be alright.

172 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:48 am

awful. just awful.

terrible, very bad and no good, too...

173 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:48 am

Well, THAT sucked.

At least Fat Bastard pitched a good game and JESUS!!! had a good game at the plate (even with the outs).

174 Boatzilla   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:50 am

Another morning turned to shit. And it's 85 degrees already.

175 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:51 am

What the FUCK is he doing?

Can someone please explain the merits of capitulation to me?

Why the FUCK do you bother to play all those innings if you're going to have Aaron Motherfucking Laffey on the mound with the game on the line? Why?

I'm sure he's a nice guy, but once again: NOT A MAJOR LEAGUE PITCHER.

There is a reason that he is refuse.

Wayne Franklin'ed again??????

Why do you bother?

And could we please get the heads up to not bother watching/following the game, if Joe G. doesn't give a fig?

You know, it's not a given that you'll be in the position to win the next game in the series.

You have a chance to WIN THE GAME.

You pitch Aaron Fucking Laffey. What the hell?

Please explain.

176 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:51 am

[166] Yes, I know, if Teixeira hit a ball to the wall and Nick Markakis was struck by lightning Chris Dickerson stood a better chance of scoring from first flatfooted than Jesus Montero.

177 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:53 am

[175] And that's why I mentioned the logic classes ...

178 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:54 am

[174] Joe's total lack of interest in winning the division last year was enough to make baseball add an extra playoff team. Maybe he's trying to see what they will do when he stops trying this year

179 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:55 am

[176] But you just keep on "plucking" that chicken, right?

180 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:55 am

[176] And I think that the idea that Chris Dickerson is going to score from first completely flatfooted on ANYTHING is illogical.

181 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:56 am

[179] Besides a HR. But I *think* Montero can do that too.

182 thelarmis   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:57 am

don't we have like 18 pitchers? there's a bajillion throwers in the pen. pick somebody other than proctor, laffey or ayala. even if they're young and new and it's a tight game. obviously, the games mean nothing to joe, so just choose anyone.

the braves throw young guys out all the time. 2 did great tonight. the 1 who didn't has been beyond awesome this year. 1 of the kids who did well was aroydis vizcaino, who we traded for jome-run javy...

any of the kids are better than laffey. doesn't even matter which hand they use to throw! fuck it, get pat vindette up here. quick.

183 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:57 am

[177] Is that really happening?

They should just threaten to take away Joe G.'s supplements if he's going to manage that fecklessly. That would be more simple.

184 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 12:59 am

[179] Wow, once again, over your head with a whee and a plop.

Montero is one of the SLOWEST guys on the team. No, really, he's not average, or anything close.


Dickerson is not.

In FACT, Dickerson is FAST.

Imagine that.

Dickerson is probably 2-3 seconds, at the least, faster from 1st to 3rd than Montero.

I'm not quite sure WHY you've decided to get bent out of shape about making an OBVIOUS move, but, logically speaking, it IS the logical move ...

185 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:00 am

[183] Bah, meant 1st to Home in the above ...

186 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:00 am

[181] I'm coming around to the idea that Ayala just sucks, but I KNOW Laffey and Proctor cannot get out Major League hitters. They can throw a pitch, and a hitter may happen to get HIMSELF out, but that's the only positive outcome they have available. They have no out pitches, no nasty pitches, no nothing, except below mediocre shit balls that look like snack time to any lineup moderately above suck.

I have, on the other hand, seen Ayala get guys out, but he has sucked hard recently.

I'm with you on the trying of someone who MIGHT have a pulse. Throwing a corpse on the mound, though, this shit must stop.

187 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:02 am

[181] And by that, I mean try some kid, etc.

Just not someone who has confirmed beyond all possible doubt that absolute suck is the hard and fast ceiling.

I'm a little frustrated right now.

188 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:03 am

[185] Against the Angels, there's a particular sting.

The Angels wouldn't have beat us in 2002 without giving K-Rod a chance, as a TOTALLY untested rookie.

This bizarre fucking obsession we have of always choosing someone else's garbage before giving our minor leaguers a chance is driving me MAD.

189 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:05 am

Back to [177], I know that they're "planning" the 10-team thing - is it definite that it is going to happen, assigning punishment to anyone shooting as many blanks as Joe G. does in September?

I can't see this shit being good for the team. I just hate it.

Winning is GOOD. Aaron Fucking Laffey with the game on the line. After Robertson tore through his inning.

190 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:07 am

[183] Because if the man isn't allowed to run, I'm not sure what the hell difference speed makes. I've seen zero indication that Chris Dickerson is the kind of fast that he can score from first from a stand still. He's not breaking with the pitch. He's not getting a running start. He's standing there. Short of someone falling down, I'm not sure what's going to get him 270 feet on one play.

The entire philosophy rests on the idea that someone will eventually hit a two out gapper and he can run with the pitch t

191 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:08 am

I mean seriously. Is our plan *really* "Hopefully Tampa loses 12 times before the years ends?"

192 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:09 am

[187] Show me a Yankee fan who doesn't feel that sting, and they're wearing some kind of other shirt underneath.

Yes, with this garbage thing. Garbage is generally garbage for a good reason.

But there are legitimately two types of garbage.

There's garbage that shows some higher-ceiling possibility, like a Bruney, who was picked up garbage.

And then there's garbage that will always be garbage. That shows no signs of ever not being garbage.

Now I don't understand some things in this game, like I never saw a 19 win IPK season coming, and I still can't fathom it, but I'm pretty sure current Proctor and always Laffey will never, ever, ever be anything other than shitty.

193 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:21 am

[191] I don't know. To me, there's a complete and distinct gulf between a Laffey or Proctor and an IPK.

IPK was always going to be much, MUCH more likely to turn into an above-average pitcher than the other two were.

I'd never say I saw 19+ wins coming, but it was pretty clear he had the potential to be a good+ pitched, if given a legit chance (which the Yankees never did) ...

194 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:29 am

[189] Well, let's think about this.

Dickerson has stolen 30+ bases several times in his professional career, while Montero, on the occasion of his 1st ML run scored, prompted this observation: "The ball found the wall and Jesus Montero chugged all the way from first to score. The young man be many things in his career, but fast is not going to be one of them."

The idea that someone like Dickerson would CLEARLY score on a number of plays ABOVE the number that Montero would, seems, hopefully, SO obvious that we don't need to establish it, and yet, stunningly, you seem to need to argue THAT very point, to argue that there isn't a reason to increase the chances of a positive run value event, with essentially no negative cost.

Consider me perplexed ...

195 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:46 am

[193] I have little doubt that Chris Dickerson, if allowed to run, is faster than Jesus Montero, and would score from first, on say, a hit and run that reached the wall.

I think when he's not allowed to run, its going to take two hits to score either one of them. I just don't see the 0 out or one out play that is going to score an anchored Dickerson from first without some kind of misplay. Which, as we saw in Boston, will score Montero too.

196 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 10, 2011 1:49 am

Oh, [192], don't mix the thoughts together, even though I put them together into post salad.

I mention IPK just to say that certain things surprise me, and sometimes things I don't see coming do occur, but he has nothing to do with those two crap ballers.

Tonight I've just thrown out a few questions to go along with the murderous anger part of things.

197 cult of basebaal   ~  Sep 10, 2011 2:11 am

[194] Well, we're just going to have to agree that *your* analysis is lacking.

Dickerson easily scores from 1st on MANY number of hits that Montero would be lucky to end up at 3rd on.

A hit that scores Montero will, essentially, score 90%+ of ALL base runners in MLB.

At least.

If you think that's the same for Dickerson, well, I'm not exactly sure what to say ...

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