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Better Late…

jimmy smith

Just got in the door from Vermont, lugging bags up from the car, schvitzin’, hungry, cranky.

But just in time to put up a game thread, relax and watch the Yanks.

Heard something about a visit to Dr. J. Andrews for David Robertson which is not a good sign.

Otherwise, life is good and Let’s Go Yan-Kees!

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1 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:12 pm

JD... Oh no!

2 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:13 pm

ARod... oh Yes!

3 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:29 pm

here is petey's update on robertson:

UPDATE, 6:36 p.m.: Spoke to Robertson. He said he’s been pitching with it for two weeks now. There has been no drop in velocity or command, just tightness after he’s done pitching. He had an MRI and said no injury was apparent.

“I’m confident it’s not going to be anything,” he said.

Robertson has never had elbow issues before.

4 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:31 pm

Swish shot !!!!!!

5 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:32 pm

damn swish smashed that ball - funny that it was rh

6 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:33 pm

Just you and me Ms. O. Does this mean we're dating?

7 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:34 pm

[3] Now if Girardi says it's nothing, then it's probably terminal for Robertson.

8 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:35 pm

Evening, Team.

Nick Swisher sure did hit that baseball, no?

9 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:35 pm

[8] Hey! I saw her first!

10 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:36 pm

(Oops... should be [7]. So much for feeble attempts at humor.)

11 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:37 pm

Damn it!

They forgot to go to commercials so we had about ten seconds of just baseball. I wish we could just get a live feed that never left the field with the option for just listening to natural sound.

Wouldn't that be nice?

12 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:37 pm

[9] Heh heh.

13 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:39 pm

[11] indeed

[9] we'll always have the first 20 minutes of game 140

14 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:39 pm

I didn't expect it but Abreu with a .836 OPS, Swisher with an .875+ OPS. And for all his blunders, I'll take Swisher's glove over Bobby's anytime.

15 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:42 pm

Is this guy's name really Gaugin?

16 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:43 pm

[11] It would be great. I wonder, seriously, how much any of us would be willing to pay for it, since that is about the only way we will enjoy unused potential ad time.

17 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:44 pm

[14] You really think so? I don't know. Aside from the wall, I always found him solid. He always seemed to know where the ball was going.

18 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:46 pm

[16] I know. How much could they charge?

Actually, never mind. If there existed such an option, mlb would probably start mandating league-wide commercials over the stadium PA so we'd have to hear it anyway.

I guess we could always have a Leninist revolution.

19 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:47 pm

[17] He may have known where it was going, but he didn't seem to get there himself, at least according to all of the advanced defensive metrics (which placed him among the worst RFs in all of baseball at the end of his Yankee tenure).

Swish looks ugly with the glove, but he actually has decent range.

20 randym77   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:48 pm

[11] MiLB.TV used to be like that. I really liked it. During commercials, you got to watch the grounds crew working, heard all the stadium noise, the announcers chit-chatting, etc.

21 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:48 pm

[18] I disagree. MLB would have NO problem allowing us to hear just baseball, so long as someone (us) pay for it. There is a potential market solution.

Meanwhile, when the Leninist solution comes along, we'll probably have to here re-education messages instead. : )

22 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:49 pm

[20] Yeah, fair enough, I can see that. Swish does have decent range, that is true. He does seem to range farther than Abreu did.

23 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:50 pm

[21] :)

24 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:52 pm

Derek has some quick hands, actually.

25 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:53 pm

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/abreu-overload/
UZR ......... Over the last three years
Dewan has Abreu at -14 (32nd), -14 (32nd), and -24 (34th)

26 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:53 pm

Ohh! That was a nice pitch.

27 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:54 pm

[21] we won't have to here anything it will be mute :}

28 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 7:57 pm

[27] Touché.

29 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:01 pm

Jesus, you see that swing? Dude almost drilled himself to China.

30 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:01 pm

mk making fun of sterling is usually funny

31 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:02 pm

And the pitcher thinks you can pick a guy off if you throw super fast, like a striking cobra.

32 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:03 pm

Oooh, well done, boys.

33 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:03 pm

nice play team

is this gaudin's best outing ever?

34 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:03 pm

Missed sign?

35 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:03 pm

Wow.... perfect throw by Posada.

36 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:05 pm

Hey-hey. Michelle Oudin obvisouly called up Chad Gaudin and told him to win one for the folks with last names that are not pronounced how you think they'd be. Or something like that. : /

37 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:06 pm

[33] Probably not. Look at his 2007 season, which included a 7.0 /1 /0 /0 /3 /4 against the Yankees.

38 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:07 pm

Awesome, the YES feed on Rogers Sports Net just lost sound. Mute!

39 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:08 pm

Nice hustle, Teix.

40 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:11 pm

Time for an A-Bomb!

41 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:11 pm

Good eye, Alex.

42 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:12 pm

Good hustle, Alex, just don't hurt yourself.

43 OldYanksFan   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:12 pm

Ouch. ARod beats that on a good hip.

44 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:12 pm

no infield hits for the yankees

those crazy rays - how dare they put one of their best pitchers in the rotation - in fact it is proof positive they are crazy

45 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:16 pm

If it didn't before, this lead suddenly seems very precarious.

46 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:17 pm

good go sit down - i can't stand looking at greg zaun for one second longer than i have to

47 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:19 pm

Man, what a snare!

48 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:19 pm

[45] well once they announced tonight's pitcher this lead was precarious, but this has been about when gaudin starts giving it up

but hey tonight is looking pretty good for ole chad

49 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:19 pm

Everything's coming up roses.

50 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:19 pm

But a little luck doesn't hurt. That could have been Mitre 2.0.

51 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:20 pm

[48] Heh heh heh heh.

52 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:21 pm

[49] Knock on wood, if you please.

53 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:25 pm

Wow, I forgot that Price wasn't just the 8th inning guy, he was the closer (at least part of the time). His move to the rotation obviously explains the Rays' woes this year.

54 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:26 pm

i know this is slightly old and random, but i am amazed that aaron boone was able to play baseball this year

55 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:26 pm

I'm glad Kay and O'Neill have taken the opportunity to debate whether Joba should be a reliever. It moves the focus off whether Hughes should be a reliever.

56 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:28 pm

Very unselfish ground out by Cano.

57 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:29 pm

[55] They both seem to think that one of those guys should be in the bullpen.

Oh, and, good evening, all.

58 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:29 pm

[54] Who?

59 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:30 pm

Evening, RI.

60 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:30 pm

[56] That reminds me, did you see that hideously selfish, stat-padding homer by Teixeira yesterday evening? I was furious. He killed the rally -- you will remember that they were on their way to a really big inning, and they only managed three runs after the blast.

61 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:30 pm

[57] The best line, from O'Neill: "I said from day 1 that Joba should be a reliever, because he had done it before."

Of course, on Day 1 he had never been a reliever before...

62 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:31 pm

[60] No, luckily I missed the game...so I didn't have to witness such fundamentally unsound baseball.

63 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:33 pm

[61] Well, technically, yes. But you're relying on an excessively mathematical, geeky definition of "1'.

64 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:33 pm

[60] :)

65 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:33 pm

[61] wait mk's companion tonight is flash

but yeah it is too much to waste BOTH of them in the rotation - 1 has to be in the pen

66 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:35 pm

[66] His companion. That's cute.

67 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:37 pm

OK, so now Gaudin is heading into "best game for him ever" territory. If he pitches really well, and if history holds, he should be pulled from the rotation, for Mitre or possible JOsh Towers.

68 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:38 pm

[65] Oh, is that Flash? I'm glad, because other wise O'Neill would have been the one sounding like an idiot.

To be honest, I have a hard time telling the various YES/MY9 former players apart--probably because I don't too many games.

69 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:39 pm

wow - the yankees?!? picking off crawford?!??

70 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:40 pm

Holy smokes. Go on with your Chad self. Sorry. (ducking)

71 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:40 pm

Got to head out on a boring job, will miss the rest of the game. Go team!!

[0] Alex, that is a fantastic album with one of Blue Note's best ever covers. thelarmis will no doubt chime in about it later!

About the earlier discussion, on my tv here in Japan I can swtich the audio track between the English announcers (YES on the Yankee games) or the Japanese announcers...in the evening when it's a Japanese game, the English-language track is just silent..it's really fun watching the game like that! Shame about the awful camera work here, but that's another story...

72 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:41 pm

[68] "...don't see too many games."

73 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:42 pm

I think O'Neill and Flash are the toughest to distinguish, at least by voice quality.

74 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:42 pm

[68] yeah when i didn't get yes regularly i had a hard time distinguishing them too (well not so much mk and kenny - but all the former yankee players)

75 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:43 pm

[73] i agree - the most distinguishable thing to me is flash has a slight lisp and o'neill's cincy twang comes out when he is excited

76 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:44 pm

[74] I find Cone very easy. I think he has a western Penn. accent, is that right? I don't know where he's from. Kenny has a melodious quality, musical.

77 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:44 pm

Wow.
I wonder if he's thinking about Gehrig.

78 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:45 pm

A wee slump, no?

79 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:45 pm

the rays do not want to see derek get the record

[76] he's from kansas city - yeah coney is pretty distinguishable

80 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:46 pm

[75 Interesting! Yes, Paul has that southern midlands accent, but to me it's subtle and I have to listen for a while to be sure. I hadn't noticed Flash's lisp. For me the content and style is what distinguishes Flaherty.

81 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:48 pm

Flash: "Prce is a young pitcher...they won't let him go more than 100 or 110 pitches."

As opposed to all the veteran pitchers who regular go past 110.

82 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:50 pm

Instead of Joba Rules, do the Rays have Price Controls?

83 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:50 pm

The sooner Price is out of there the better.

84 BuckFoston   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:51 pm

82 Nice.

85 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:52 pm

i believe that is what is called a nice piece of hitting

86 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:53 pm

Good Lord, that was a beautiful hit.

87 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:53 pm

Comfy-Rod. Whatever Kevin Long told him is good by me. : D

88 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:53 pm

[85] He's good at hitting.
Good at baseball.

89 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:53 pm

You see, that's clear evidence that Price should be in the pen. He pitched a god game, but he's losing, so it's been a waste. If he was in the pen, they could use him to preserve a win. Which do you think is more valuable?

90 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:53 pm

That really was beautiful. Nice pulling in of the hands.

91 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:54 pm

[86] Yep..well struck, but not too selfish. And, it moved Teix to third, so the bases are not clogged.

92 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:54 pm

[89] Well, it's mute, isn't it? You could just argue about this forever. It's so subjective.

93 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:57 pm

It was very unselfish of him.

94 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:58 pm

[92] Yeah, probably. But one thing that is not subjective: Price just didn't want it enough to get a win tonight.

95 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:58 pm

Agggggghhh!

96 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:58 pm

Wow, Flash was right! I'm impressed.

97 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:59 pm

Well, maybe Gaudin just left "best game ever" territory.

98 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 8:59 pm

paging the short leash - short leash please pick-up the courtesy phone

99 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:00 pm

Fun''s over. Get him outta there.

100 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:00 pm

If he gets an out, could Hughes pitch five outs?

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101 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:02 pm

[100] If.

102 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:02 pm

And the Hughes situation tonight is...?

Anyone?

103 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:03 pm

[100] Only if the first out came in the eighth.

104 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:03 pm

[102] Eighth inning guy.

105 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:04 pm

Of course. Eighth Inning Guy.
If only it were said eighth.

106 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:06 pm

Ha ha. Shoulda bunted, small ball boys.

107 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:06 pm

Funky platoon, I love that song!

108 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:06 pm

Navarro PH for anyone? It's good to see that overmanaging is not restricted to pinstripes.

109 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:07 pm

BB. I wonder what's going to happen next.

110 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:07 pm

Take that! Girardi won't let Navarro beat him, so here comes Bruney!!

111 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:08 pm

[108] joe maddon has shown himself to be quite the over-manager this series

112 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:08 pm

Oh, lord. Girardi and Maddon with the September rosters. This chess match could last for hours.

113 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:09 pm

[109] Oh, man, I could actually hear your eyes rolling!

114 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:10 pm

[112] We seem to have settled on Bruney v. Navarro--a perverse form of immovable object v. irrepressible force.

115 JeremyM   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:10 pm

Talk about over-managing. Mixing and matching for Navarro?

116 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:10 pm

nice play alex

117 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:11 pm

5 unassisted. Not exactly what I had in mind. And the wheels in the sky keep on turning. Cripes. MK just read my mind.

118 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:11 pm

[112] Earlier in the evening, they had some sort of poll question: if you could change one rule in baseball., which would you choose.

My initial reaction was to get rid of the DH. Upon reflection, I would abolish September rosters.

119 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:12 pm

i hope no one is scoring this thing tonight either - pencilling in these moves might be dangerous to your health

120 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:12 pm

Next inning Maddon will have Brian Shouse pinch hit, so Girardi will call on Albaladejo, who has good numbers against pitchers. This will take 12 minutes, and Albaladejo will walk Shouse on a questionable call.

121 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:12 pm

[115] On both sides: mixing and matching FOR Navarro, in response to mixing and matching WITH Navarro.

122 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:14 pm

Is Bruney now the designated Rongy?

123 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:14 pm

what has gotten into jorgie with these snap throws?

124 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:15 pm

[122] There's no such thing. That wouldn't make sense, to have someone designated to get one right handed batter. Don't be foolish. What a waste that would be.

125 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:16 pm

Let's see what Genius comes up with next.

126 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:16 pm

[120] I'm still wondering why Maddon didn't properly motivate Price to throw a shutout. : ) Atta boy, Cokey. Make it interesting.

127 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:16 pm

Must...get...to...eighth...inning...

128 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:17 pm

Ah, leaving Coke in. Interesting. Radical. This may work out.

129 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:17 pm

nice play jh jr

130 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:17 pm

[124] Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Righ-handed One Navarro Guy.

131 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:18 pm

Michael Kay! Awesome. "The mixing and matching pays off beautifully"! Amazing.

132 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:18 pm

christ, not surprisingly mk fully endorsed "the duel" and how girardi "out-manuvered" maddon

133 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:18 pm

[128] Well, he was facing another lefty.

In the end, Joe G. checkmated Joe M.

Girardi, you magnificent bastard!

134 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:19 pm

[130] Well, now, that's not really fair, because your penchant and reputation for typos led me to believe that you had intended to type "ROOGIE".

In any case, I believe Girardi is right now on the phone to Cashman demanding a raise. See if they show Cash on his cell phone.

135 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:20 pm

[134] because your penchant and reputation for typos

Be nice, now.

136 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:23 pm

Lance Cormier.

He gets an automatic spot in my all-time awesome baseball names roster.

137 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:27 pm

Out.

138 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:28 pm

yeah he was out

no one can accuse maddon of sitting in the dugout and picking his nose all night

139 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:29 pm

this is turning into a college basketball game

140 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:29 pm

...and the chess match is rejoined. Your move, Girardi.

141 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:32 pm

Ah, Godzilla. Very clever, Mr. Girardi, very clever.
BUT NOT CLEVER ENOUGH! {throws Randy Choate onto the board}

142 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:32 pm

Checkmate.

143 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:32 pm

round 3 (?) - maddon

144 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:33 pm

BWAH HA HA HA! {tosses head back, laughing fiendishly}

145 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:34 pm

hi all. i heard most of the top of the 7th on fuzzy radio in the car. talk about over-managing. i heard all but the Aki at-bat. i'm glad Cokey got out of it!

sounds like Go-Dan did rather well.

ooh, i hope Robertson's okay!!! sounds like he should be. i sure hope so...

did Robbie hustle on the infield single or was it a sure base hit up the middle that was blocked from reaching the outfield?

Hughes for the 8th, Mo for the 9th?!

146 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:34 pm

[141] CHOATE!!!

147 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:35 pm

i presume hughesy will get the full 8th - take that maddon

148 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:35 pm

holy shit that wasn't supposed to happen

149 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:36 pm

And now it's YOUR move, Mr. Girardi.

150 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:37 pm

[145] did Robbie hustle on the infield single...

Hard to tell.

or was it a sure base hit up the middle that was blocked from reaching the outfield?

Yes.

151 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:37 pm

So, what did I miss?

152 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:38 pm

[148] Yes. Saving Hughes for the eighth is supposed to guarantee a win. My universe is rocked right now.

153 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:38 pm

Cripes, I go to the kitchen to get some ice cream and heat up chocolate sauce (no scotch tonight), and look what happens.

154 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:39 pm

shit. well, that sucks.

boston's up big, but texas won game 1 and is winning game 2.

155 BuckFoston   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:40 pm

Hughes can't handle the eigth inning. Make him a starter.

156 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:40 pm

[155] : )

157 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:41 pm

[152] On the bright side maybe he'll pitch the 9th, too. If the Yanks don't score in the 8th of course.

158 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:41 pm

[151] gaudin pitched pretty well, price did okay but yanks got 2 runs off him, somehow bartlett cranked a 1st pitch hr off hughes, and derek can't buy a hit - plus a lot of over-managing for the last inning and a half

159 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:41 pm

I can handle Hughes blowing a lead.

Bruney and Coke, not so much

160 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:41 pm

[155] i loves it!

161 BuckFoston   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:41 pm

BTW Bucholz is looking good lately, granted it was the Orioles today but still.

162 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:42 pm

Okay. Here's where Jeter cranks one out

163 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:42 pm

damn robbie turns a beautiful double play

164 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:42 pm

Good D tonight.

165 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:42 pm

Cano is godlike out there.

166 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:43 pm

[152] i think i am still a bit stunned

167 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:43 pm

[162] He and Hughes planned it. This way Phil gets the W.

168 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:43 pm

okay, well...we're not losing.

Phil only threw 11 pitches. i say send him out for the 9th and save Mo, for the...you know - save.

169 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:44 pm

[162] i was just thinking that. or, at least, a single, stolen base, run scored...

170 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:45 pm

Just a bit outside

171 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:45 pm

[157] Well of course, because it's not a Save Situation ®.

172 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:45 pm

[161] i like to call him Fuckholz. though "Laptop" will do just fine! : )

173 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:46 pm

Perhaps Jeter is unaware that this is Randy Choate

174 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:47 pm

i'll be very disappointed if we don't beat CHOATE!!!

175 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:48 pm

one of the best moments of the season was when o'neill was absolutely stunned that randy choate was tampa's closer

176 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:48 pm

Jesus christ

177 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:49 pm

This series sucks.

178 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:49 pm

O fer crying out loud.

179 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:49 pm

jeter can't buy a hit. but if he could, he can certainly afford it!

180 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:49 pm

fucking shit

181 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:49 pm

Great bunt...better defensive play.

182 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:49 pm

The Yankees can't hit Randy Choate

183 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:50 pm

Astounding.

184 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:51 pm

[175] Randy Choate is the closer even though no one knows it. He is...the most interesting man in the world.

185 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:51 pm

[0] Alex used this album cover somewhat recently. i've got a stack of about 30 Jimmy Smith CD's on Blue Note Records on my kitchen table (yes, i've completely run out of room) and this one is on top, 'coz i LOVE the album cover soooo much. a total classic - aesthetically and musically!!!

why is Johnny bunting?!?!?! : /

186 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:52 pm

[182][183] I imagine Sterling would have something to say about this.

187 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:52 pm

CHOAD!!!!! I mean CHOATE!!! : )

188 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:52 pm

Well, that was embarrassing

189 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:54 pm

This would be a blood boiling game if we were in some kind of race. Instead it's just kind of amusing.

190 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:54 pm

Feh.

Phils have 4 batters w/ 30 or more homeruns: Werth, Ibanez, Utley & Howard

Javy Vazquez has as many hits tonight as he's given up: 2

191 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:54 pm

[188] A bullet that to the RF that was caught and a brilliant defensive play, on the first two batters. Hardly embarrassing.

192 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:54 pm

Is 13 the real number or does Kay still refuse to count the Castillo game as a walk off win?

193 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:55 pm

[191] Randy Choate got through the Yankees DH and top of their order without allowing a run. Or a baserunner of any sort.

194 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:56 pm

Damn, no more Phil.

195 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:57 pm

Oh, right, I just remembered one of the Rulz: at home, you can use your closer in a tie game.

196 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:57 pm

Does anyone think Joey Joe Joe would have done anything different in the 8th and 9th tonight if this was game one of the ALCS?

197 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:57 pm

Oooh, Rivera for the ninth in a tie. The chess game continues...

Girardi: "Mais oui, but we are all pawns on the chessboard of life."

Maddon, Biensûr, mon ami.."

198 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:59 pm

[196] probably not - possibly pull hughes after the hr in a panic, but i think he "trusts" hughes

199 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 9:59 pm

[193] I somehow doubt that Jeter is embarrassed by working nine pitches and driving the ball.

200 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:00 pm

[164] Yes, good D tonight.

And Mo.

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201 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:00 pm

Remember when Maddon tried to lose the ALCS last year? I hope he does that again. This game bores me.

202 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:00 pm

Mariano Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

203 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:00 pm

mo

204 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:01 pm

Yum.

205 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:01 pm

i know it's a tie game at home and all, but Phil threw 11 freaking pitches, we used 3 relief pitchers in the 7th and we're not assured of scoring in the bottom of the 9th. i dislike this move greatly. i love Mo dearly, but Hughes should be on the mound right now.

206 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:02 pm

oh, and of course, robertson is not around.

207 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:02 pm

"Mr. Girardi, do you expect me to pinch hit?"
No, Mr. Maddon, I expect you to die."

208 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:02 pm

[189] As if from Olympian heights.

209 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:03 pm

whew, no more choate

210 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:03 pm

[207] F'ing brilliant!

211 BuckFoston   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:03 pm

207 Man you are on fire today.

212 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:03 pm

Come on, Alex. Right here, right now.

213 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:04 pm

wow, Mo is amazing!

214 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:04 pm

Wheeler's given up more HR than BB this year.

215 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

swisherooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

216 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

ZUT ALORS!!!!!!!

217 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

WHOO!

218 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!

219 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

Swisher: "Excellent, excellent...but now I grow fatigued with this this game."

220 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

Swishalicious!!!

221 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:06 pm

What swagger.

222 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:07 pm

Whoa, I only just noticed that my mlb.com feed is well behind you guys.

[219] Yes, precisely. Precisely.

Curtain.

223 ms october   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:07 pm

man he is a nut - the lovable kind, but nevertheless a wacko

224 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:07 pm

I guess Swisher is trying to make up for that Home/Road split all in one night.

225 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:08 pm

That's a real nice souvenir she got there.

226 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:08 pm

SWISH-A-LICIOUS!!!!

227 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:08 pm

So I'm going to the game on Friday. Looks like I have a real shot at seeing the record.

228 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:09 pm

Hey, a rare W for Mo!

229 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:10 pm

Russ Salzberg gives me a headache. Tell me if anything of note happens in the post game

230 JeremyM   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:10 pm

[214] Very prescient.

231 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:10 pm

90 wins.

90-50.

232 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:10 pm

Oh, hey, check it out [214]. That must have exerted some kind of magical momentum effect, no?

233 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:11 pm

[216] hey, what does that mean? Zappa has a record called "Zoot Allures". i don't get it...

234 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:11 pm

[230] Oh, right, thanks. Now I wish I hadn't tooted my own horn there. Oh well.

235 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:13 pm

[233] It's French for "Whoa, dude!"

236 The Hawk   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:13 pm

On the one hand, the Yanks are going to the post-season. On the other hand, I have at least another year of watching Girardi "outwit" his "opponents", and his attendant "I'm outwitting you" face.

Well, at least Swisher will (most likely) be there to balance that sourpuss karmically.

237 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:15 pm

39-13 since the break. .750%

238 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:15 pm

[235] really?!

239 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:17 pm

[233] I was channeling my 6th grade French due to MP's bit of French speaking. The best I can gather is it means a mild French expletive. That's all. : ) I'll stick with Holy Fuck! Another Walkoff. In the future. : D Damn French.

240 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:19 pm

[236] Well, usually when Girardi tries to outsmart someone, its a miserable failure, and usually involves people like Wilson Betemit and Phil Coke, so when he actually succeeds, give him his due.

241 Yankster   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:20 pm

pretty solid move there by the swish. Anyone think he won't make next year's roster? (as a bench player)

242 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:21 pm

[239] coolio. i love "holy fuck"! zappa hates the french! his song "In France", is pretty hilarious!

243 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:22 pm

[238] Here's a stupid-funny video of it in action. Kenan Thomspon makes me laugh.
http://tinyurl.com/n8gjra

244 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:22 pm

Wow!

Now if Hughes had gotten the W, that would have been a true Vulture win!

Man, that was fun. Swish is so hilarious.

Feel bad for Gaudin, feel great otherwise!

245 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:23 pm

Holy crap - Sterling can't remember what the plays of the game are and is randomly clearing his throat. Classic Sterling.

246 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:23 pm

[240] But this one did involve Coke. He brought in Cokey to walk the lefty. Worked, too.

247 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:25 pm

[241] pretty solid move there by the swish. Anyone think he won’t make next year’s roster? (as a bench player)

I think there's a pretty good chance he is a starter next year, after Damon and Matsui depart, and only one of Melky/Gardner/A-Jax start.

248 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:25 pm

[240] Also, in an odd way this victory did involve WIlson Betemit. Only Wilson has been touched by a fairy godmother and turned into Nick Swisher.

249 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:26 pm

[243] cool. not my kinda humor, but i watched it...

250 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:27 pm

[247] i'm not so sure Damon's going anywhere...

251 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:27 pm

[241] What?

[240] I continue to like Coke more than most other people. His inherited runners stats say I'm not out of line with that. He's had a few very bad outings, but I tend to feel pretty good about him when they bring him in for a lefty-lefty. I don't think he's terrible in normal situations, either, but I like him a lot in lefty-lefty spots.

252 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:29 pm

Wow, Sterling with an actual interesting point. The Yanks are 52-18 over the last seventy. That is ill.

253 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:30 pm

[249] My wife and I should have stopped watching SNL long ago, but alas, we still watch.
I'll try sticking to my native tongue in the future. : )

254 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:30 pm

[251] He has the worst home run rate of any reliever in the league.

255 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:30 pm

One more from the radio - that NYY Steak "take your chance at the plate" is such an hilariously bad tag line. "Take your cuts at the plate" or "Take your licks at the plate" would make so much more sense.

256 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:32 pm

[250] I'm not sure he is, either. But if he stays, there is a decent chance that he will DH a lot, and that still leaves room for Swisher to start. Unless the Yankees sign a big OF bopper and keep one of Damon/Matsui, Swish will be back and will be in the starting lineup most nights.

257 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:32 pm

[254] Isolate the really bad outing he throws up once a month and that number looks a lot different - the guy has gotten *a lot* of big outs this season.

258 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:32 pm

RI - if you're still here, your boy Marquis is throwing a gem tonight for the Rox.

259 The Hawk   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:32 pm

[255] LOL, I never heard that one. Nice.

260 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:34 pm

[253] would you believe i've never actually watched an entire episode of SNL in my life. i mean, i watched when Jeter & Cone were on, but never a full episode. i find it well more stoopid than funny, but that's just me...

261 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:35 pm

[258] Sweet. I'll tune in for a little while (I do have to be up early tomorrow). Thanks.

262 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:35 pm

[250] and [256] He's perfect for what the Yankees try to do - a high OBP man with pop who sees a ridiculous number of pitches and people can sneeze at chemistry all they want - Swisher has got to be very very good for this team's chemistry and esprit de corps. He's signed for a little over 7 million per for the next three years, with an option for a fourth. He turned around last year's unusually bad season with an excellent season this year - I can hardly imagine a scenario where he's not back.

263 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:35 pm

[260] You are very strange. There are many, many things you have never done that are just shocking.

264 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:36 pm

[259] It amazes me every time. What happens if I get unlucky? Mad cow?

265 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:37 pm

[254] That's actually not true, though his HR rate is pretty bad.

266 Just Fair   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:37 pm

[260] It's all good. There's always beers and blondes. : D

267 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:39 pm

[257] I'm not sure how you want to define his monthly really bad outing that bloats his HR rate. He doesn't have a two HR outing all year. So the absurd 10 HR in 54 innings has to come from somewhere, and if you look at his HR log, they're spread out pretty evenly and almost always in close games.

268 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:40 pm

I hope the Rangers don't cough this one up.

269 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:41 pm

[263] HA!!! i know! ; )

oh well. nothing i can do. i guess i have my "quirks". it's just how i'm wired.

[266] you are speaking my speed! though i haven't been much for beer the last month-plus...

270 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:42 pm

[261] you might wanna just hit the hay - marquis in trouble in the 8th. well, he just got an out.

271 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:43 pm

[268] oh god, me too...

272 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:43 pm

[265] Who overtook him? He had it for a while and I just assumed he's held on to it

273 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:44 pm

Dang, thelarmis, as soon as I tune in our Tribesman he gives up a couple of base runners to the Tribe, and a gritty ground out puts two in scoring position. And that's it for Marquis.

274 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:45 pm

[267] You may be right about HR's being spaced out, but check out his game log. It's a lot of very good with a few islands of very bad - and those are around once a month. Even looking at his stats using FIPpish variables, it's a limited handful (or two handfuls) that seem to skew his numbers.

275 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:45 pm

[274] So you're saying if Girardi gets a tide chart and a good astrologer, Coke can be successful?

276 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:46 pm

[263] then again, not trying drugs, not liking many desserts and not watching SNL isn't all that strange! ; )

277 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:46 pm

[267] True. But he also has 62 appearances, and he is often (but not always) called on to get only one or two LH batters. One could look at it from this perspective: he has only given up 10 HRs in 62 outings, or one out of only every six appearances. Also, if you look at his splits, he has given up 6 HRs in 124 plate appearances v. LH batters, or about one every 20 batters (he has 30 Ks in those 124 PAs against).

I'm not sure if those are good numbers or not, but when depolyed properly it does not appear that Coke is a complete HR machine.

278 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:47 pm

[273] i tried to warn you in [270]. sorry, man.

279 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:48 pm

[276] No, no it's not. That's true. It's not particularly strange at all.

{backs quietly and unobtrusively out of the room}

280 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:50 pm

[279] hysterically laughing over here!!!! ah, fuck it, i've got my quirks. oh well, whachya gonna do?! : )

i think i'm gonna listen to FZ's Zoot Allures when BBTN ends.

then, i'm gonna go compose STRANGE musik, late night at my drum studio.

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

281 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:50 pm

[275] Something like that. Or maybe just as a LOOGY. Or I like enough of what I see that I think when he's not this callow, he may be worth something. It does mean that I've seen way more good out of the kid than bad. Those outs he's gotten are tough outs to get. Some guys couldn't get one of those outs if you gave them try after try. Kid's got balls, reasonably good stuff, and a respectable fastball.

I know liking him is not a popular sentiment, but dammit, I like the kid.

282 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:53 pm

[272] Quick scan of the AL relievers (looking only at guys have been used consistently--like 30 0r 40 or more appearances): Linebrink, Shawn Kelley, Mahay, Jensen Lewis, Guardado.

283 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:53 pm

[281] Actually, I like him too. Ever since that interview on mlb.com. I can't help it, he was so completely disarming.

284 Mattpat11   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:54 pm

[277] Six HR in 124 PA works out to 31 over a hypothetical full season. That seems awful.

I'm also just not a fan of the LOOGY period, so I'm probably going to be a harder sell than most people.

285 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:54 pm

[275] The question is not where the island is, but when it is.

/Lost reference.

286 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:56 pm

[283] that was a great interview. didn't he shave his head after that? Coke is also a big Rock 'N Roll fan and digs musik.

Marquis is still the pitcher of record...

287 The Hawk   ~  Sep 8, 2009 10:56 pm

[281] I wasn't confident in Coke for a while but now that I kind of "get" his game, I don't mind him on the team. He's blown it a few times but he's done a good job most of the time.

It's the same sort of thing with Burnett. Now that I understand him, I don't get mad when he has meltdown. He's just a terrifically inconsistent pitcher, because he has wild stuff, and he's kind of stupid. (He's also the type of pitcher for whom ERA may be misleading.)

And here I am talking about AJ Burnett. Pshaw!

288 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:00 pm

[285] At first I thought you were making a lost reference that was lost on me. But then I realized you were making a reference to Lost, and now I get it...

[283] Yeah, that's part of it. Although I'm thinking of his interview after his first save - is that the same interview you mean?

I also just realized he's already 27. I'd forgotten he'd been around that long. I still think that I'd like to see how he does with more time in the majors.

289 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:05 pm

[284] Yes, but reliever numbers tend to be skewed, both good and bad. If he is brought in to face ne batter and gives up a jack, he is pulled, whereas the starter gets to face more batters. It's thus hard to evaluate relievers on what the would do if their numbers were extrapolated to a full season of starting.

He has allowed only 10 out of 45 inherited runnersto score (22%), well below the league average for relievers (35%). LH batters are only hitting .608 OPS against him. By and large, Coke has done the job when called upon, in most but not all appearances.

290 RIYank   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:09 pm

[288] Yes, the interview after his first save, when he repeatedly said that it would be fine if Mariano wanted to keep the closer job because it was a little harder than he expected.

Darren O'Day
Faces Andy Marte
And puts him away,
Saving the day.

At least until the ninth inning.

291 Chyll Will   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:12 pm

[0] Dang, you're recycling pictures already? >;)

292 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:12 pm

Javy Vazquez has a rather impressive strikeout to walk career ratio:

2,220 K's 644 BB's

293 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:14 pm

[290] Jose Veras is pitching for the Tribe! haha!!!

[291] i thought the same thing. but that album art is soooo good, it's okay! : )

294 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:14 pm

i like how Pete Abe has used retired #'s for the last 2 games, in regards to the Magic Number. quite clever!

295 thelarmis   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:15 pm

new thread...

296 monkeypants   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:15 pm

[289] To continue...

The average AL reliever in 2009 comes into the game with the bases empty 67% of the time, with runners 33% of the time. He faces High Leverage situations 22% of the time and Low Leverage 47% of the time.

Coke has come in with runners on 44% of his appearances, and he has faced 49% High Leverage situations and only 23% Low Leverage.

In other words, Coke has been called on to face tougher situations than the average reliever (men on base, high leverage situations) and he has succeeded most (but not all) of the time.

297 jjmerlock   ~  Sep 8, 2009 11:22 pm

[290] For some insane reason only I can fathom, my brain plays a trick on me every time I hear the name Andy Marte and I convince myself that he's Andy Morales, that he somehow made the major leagues, and that he had an actual career. Some sort of synaptic misfire.

[289] and [296] Thanks for the numbers. Looks like liking Coke isn't quite the painful proposition around here that I thought it might be...

298 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Sep 9, 2009 12:39 am

what a great win to come back to! And the game thread tonight..Captial old boys, just Capital!

.750 ball since the break..amazing..

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