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How Greene Was My Valley?

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Shane Greene is tonight’s starter for the Yanks as they play the first of 4 games against the Indians in Cleveland.

Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Brian McCann DH
Brian Roberts 2B
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Kelly Johnson 3B
Francisco Cervelli C

Never mind nuthin’:

Let’s Go Yank-ees!

[Photo Credit: Patrick Joust]

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1 MSM35   ~  Jul 7, 2014 4:39 pm

Hope the performance is as good as the movie.

2 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:12 pm

Good start.

3 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:17 pm

Blergh

4 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:25 pm

Hot damn, Frankie!

5 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:26 pm

Was Asdrubal Cabrera running under water?

6 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:29 pm

[5] it's part of his Yankee audition.

7 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:31 pm

Hey, look at that.

Brian Roberts is our new slugger. Extra-base hits galore.

8 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:31 pm

Belly to belly doubles!

9 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:32 pm

So Shane Greene is the call-up filling Soriano's slot?

10 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:33 pm

Gosh.
Base running. It's hard.

11 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:33 pm

7-2-4-3.

12 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:34 pm

I left the room. What in hell happened?

13 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:37 pm

Yeah, that fucking hurt

14 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:37 pm

Booo Cleveland!

15 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:37 pm

My god.
I would hate to be Frankie's health insurance provider.

16 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:38 pm

FFS! Could the baseball Gods leave Cervelli alone for a few weeks?

17 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:39 pm

[12] Short version: Ichiro singled, Roberts fell down between third and home, so Ichiro headed for second to draw the throw and save Brian's butt.

Yes. He fell down.

18 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:40 pm

Note to Joe: might not be wise to have your starting catcher DH.

19 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:40 pm

[17] Hmm.

Guy in Detroit just splatted about thirty feet from home last night. That may be worse

20 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:40 pm

[17] they said it had rained earlier, assume grass is wet

21 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:42 pm

Free run. Thank you.

22 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:42 pm

Jeez, Masterson used to be good

23 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:44 pm

Well fuck a duck. : (

24 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:44 pm

I'll take that, but wish we got more.

25 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:44 pm

Oh, man, great play. Great play.

Jeez, we could have had six runs that inning.

26 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:46 pm

Hey, I've just discovered another weirdo spam filter trigger. The things you wear on your feet. Not socks, the things you wear outside your socks.

27 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:48 pm

[22] I always thought he was a bit overrated.

28 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:49 pm

Hey, Nick Swisher, I forgot about him!

29 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:59 pm

Damn, I was praying Tito would let Masterson pitch to a few more batters.

30 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 6:59 pm

Gosh. These Yankees are starting to hit.

31 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:01 pm

aw leave Justin in.

32 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:04 pm

Why didn't Santana throw home?
Not that I'm complaining.

33 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:04 pm

Vintage Ichiro

34 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:05 pm

Balk!

35 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:06 pm

Ouch. WTF is it with these Indian pitchers? Did Tito bring the Boston Bean(ball)s with him?

36 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:08 pm

Sweep the leg, Frankie Brains!

37 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:08 pm

Cano would've had that foul

38 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:09 pm

Kyle Crockett? Seriously that's his name? CLE needs to sign catcher Jermaine Tubbs

39 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:09 pm

Another gift. If I say "Indian givers" is that offensive?

40 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:09 pm

I didn't realize we were playing a little league team tonight

41 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:09 pm

Wow, thanks Indians!

42 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:12 pm

Jerry Springer (blue shirt, first row) not enjoying this

43 mhoward120   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:12 pm

So a container of Dubble Bubble contains 300 pieces. I wonder how long that lasts? And who the team dentist is.

44 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:12 pm

(39) er.....Yes?
Remember the Seinfeld episode about that?

45 mhoward120   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:19 pm

(44). Winona

46 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:24 pm

[44] No.
I figured it must have some racist history/etymology, but I'm never sure whether that makes a term offensive.

(Also, I have some comments hung up in 'moderation' for including the word 'sh0e', so I'm doing the best I can with numbering but will probably screw one up eventually.)

47 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:26 pm

If my first-born had been a girl, she would have been named 'Winona'.

Um. I mean, he would have been, because he would have been a girl. Or she. Hm.

48 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:29 pm

[46] it refers to someone who gives a gift only to take it back later. I'm guessing it arose in the context of land rights, as Indians had (have) different concepts of land ownership than Europeans.

Oh goody, burn through the pen on day one of the series

49 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:31 pm

Getting to be an interesting game...

50 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:32 pm

Not too shabby.

51 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:33 pm

[9] Bruce Billings is the official replacement for Sori... Bruce... Billings...

52 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:34 pm

RBJ, I know what it means. But, I mean, is "going dutch" offensive? "Hooligan"? (And I have other surprising examples of expressions with nasty histories, but I am always reluctant to tell people about them because knowing the history kind of ruins the otherwise useful expression.)

53 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:35 pm

Oh, thanks Will.
Huh, I would have expected a lefty. Interesting. I presume that was Cashman's call and not Girardi's.

54 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:36 pm

Hm, or someone good at pitching, which Billings is not.

Hey, McCann really Can!

55 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:37 pm

[54] I read that Bruce was the best of the bunch at AAA.

56 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:37 pm

Hey, did anyone know that if you fall asleep during a game on ESPN and John Kruk talks about you, you can sue MLB and ESPN?

57 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:42 pm

[52] I'm a fourth Dutch, not offended at all by that, or by depictions of Scots being cheap. (Another fourth). But as a late Twentieth Century white American male I haven't really experienced prejudice.

58 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:44 pm

[56] We should all be suing Krukie for noise pollution.

[52] RI, 'Hooligan', 'Paddy Wagon', 'Welshing on a bet' etc..all rather offensive I would think. 'Indian Giver' particularly so considering the history of course. Amazing how many public figures still use these terms though, remember the governor of some internal state actually used 'Jew 'em down in negotiations' a few years back? Ugh...

And Winona on Seinfeld, oh yes!! Still remember her after many years!

59 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:46 pm

[56] Amazing.
The complaint is utterly illiterate (as perhaps befits a suit with John Kruk as defendant). Example,

"These words and its insinuations presented the plaintiff as symbol of anything but failure."

60 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:47 pm

[59] Is that English? Reads like something you'd see hear by a local translator.

61 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:47 pm

[58] 'Peanut gallery'? 'Old hat'?

62 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:50 pm

Atta boy, Kid!

63 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:50 pm

There's the first ML K for the kid!

64 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:52 pm

Oops, forgot about the relief appearance.

65 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:52 pm

Oh, too bad, Shane. Shutout, no-no, one fell swoop.

66 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:52 pm

Shite.

67 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:53 pm

[60] That's not the worst, either.

"John Kruk in his verbal attack insinuated that the plaintiff is individual that know neither history nor understood the beauty or rivalry between Boston Red Sox and New York Yankee."

Sic, sic, sic, sic, sic.

68 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:53 pm

If it had to be anyone, best it's Swish...

69 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:53 pm

Well, there went that.

70 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:54 pm

Ah well.

71 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:55 pm

[67]!!!
You'd love the endlessly amusing English mishaps over here, RI. Store round the corner used to be called 'The Good, Store'. Across the street from 'Let's Sports!'

72 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:56 pm

I always called him David "Ball Four" Murphy.

The stupid ass intentional walk in the 2010 ALCS may have cost us the series

73 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 7:56 pm

[61] Peanut Gallery
Old Hat... I can see how that could be used as a prejorative, but more of a Looney Tunes insult than anything else...

74 Ara Just Fair   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:00 pm

I say "no comments from the peanut gallery" quite often in my classroom. The kids get a big chuckle out of it. : )

75 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:02 pm

[73] Well, I've read that 'peanut gallery' was a racist expression, supposed to call up images of black men sitting in the back eating peanuts and talking during the show.
And 'old hat', well let's just say it does not originate in horse racing, and I have a citation for that one which I'll link later when I get a chance to look.

76 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:03 pm

Looks like a short storm moving in.

77 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:09 pm

Peanuts also referred to the term for little children. Charles Schulz said he was forced by his publishing syndicate to change the original name of his strip from Lil' Folks to Peanuts because it was a cutesy name for children, but he hated it because he thought real children would not recognize that and would not know who was in the strip. He never did get over that, though he did make sure on the Sunday strips that people knew who it was about by including the stanza, "Featuring Good Ol' Charlie Brown".

78 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:11 pm

(The OED)

old hat, n. and adj.

1. slang. The vulva. Also: sexual intercourse; a woman regarded as a means of sexual gratification. Now arch. and rare.

1697 T. D'Urfey Intrigues at Versailles IV. i. 40 Why, how now, ye piece of old Hat, what are ye musty? the Jade's as musty as a stale pot of Marmalade of her own making.

1699 B. E. New Dict. Canting Crew 899/2 Top-diver, a Lover of Women. An old Top-diver, one that has Lov'd Old-hat in his time.

1743 H. Fielding Jonathan Wild ii. vi, in Misc. III. 140, I shall conclude this learned Note with remarking, that the Term Old Hat, is at present used by the Vulgar, in no very honourable Sense.

1796 F. Grose Classical Dict. of Vulgar Tongue (1963) at hat, Old hat; a woman's privities: because frequently felt.

1845 N.Y. Sporting Whip 25 Feb. 1/2 This bargaining for old hat isn't what it is cracked up to be, which they learn to their disagreeable disappointment after a trial.

1893 J. S. Farmer & W. E. Henley Slang III. 277/2 Hat.., the female pudendum. Generally old hat.

a1900 in H. P. Beck Down-east Ballads & Songs (Ph.D. diss., Univ. Pennsylvania) (1952) 395 The night that I went away I had a bit of old hat.

1980 E. Jong Fanny i. xv. 120 'Tis a Nest, a Niche, an Old Hat, an Omnibus, an Oyster, a Palace o' Pleasure.

79 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:12 pm

[75] Send me an email about that if you would please; I'm interested in finding out more about that. I wonder if Uncle Woodrow heard it used that way in his glory days or if that's more recent.

80 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:13 pm

[78] I stand corrected. News to me...

81 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:14 pm

[78] Wow, never knew that. Thought it meant old and worn out

82 Mattpat11   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:16 pm

Wheels are coming off

83 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:20 pm

phew!

84 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:20 pm

Whew!

85 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:28 pm

[78] 'The Jade's as musty as a stale pot of Marmalade of her own making.' That's one of the greatest insults I've ever heard.

86 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:33 pm

Will, I can't remember where I read the thing about 'peanut gallery', sorry.

87 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:50 pm

gulp

88 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:50 pm

Nothing's easy.

89 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:56 pm

[88] You ain't kidding

90 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 8:57 pm

Ha!

91 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:09 pm

One down

92 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:10 pm

Two down

93 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:11 pm

Swisher's batting .198? Better stop lifting, bro.

94 coleman42   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:11 pm

Hooray!

95 rbj   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:12 pm

Three down! Dellin's first save. Night all

96 Chyll Will   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:12 pm

[86] it's cool, I'll come across it somewhere and let you know. I'll ask Uncle Woodrow too.

97 cult of basebaal   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:14 pm

First win for Greene, first save for Betances.

Good night for the kids!

98 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:17 pm

I'm more and more impressed with Girardi these days, holding things together with so many injuries and old folks on the roster. AL Least is still there for the taking..

99 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:28 pm

[86] [96] I always thought it referred to the last rows of seats or standing room in a vaudeville theater. These cheap seats were usually manned by rowdy often inebriated single men who munched on inexpensive peanuts, and heckled the performers. I don't think this one has racial origins. People of color would have feared these miscreants.

Old hat gives new meaning to fool's cap!

100 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Jul 7, 2014 9:30 pm

Oh, and nice Yankee win. Love the Jeter deke, that was when I could begin to watch the game.

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101 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 10:15 pm

I know, lots of people don't think various phrases have nasty origins. But check these out. Hm, okay, this got hung in moderation, don't know why. Well, check out this one anyway:

Slide two of Nine common phrases that are actually racist:

This one seems completely innocent but here’s the truth: the term “peanut gallery” actually originally referred to the special balconies that black people had to sit in at the theater during the days of segregation. They were called “peanut galleries” because the peanut was heavily associated at the time with African-Americans, largely because its usage had been popularized by black scientist and inventor George Washington Carver, a former slave. Therefore, “peanut gallery” became a cheap and derisive way to refer to people whose voices didn’t matter. It would be like if the word “beaner” became acceptable 100 years from now, although to be fair beans and peanuts are both part of a nutritious diet so the joke’s on you, whitey.

102 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 10:15 pm

Ah. Okay, good, so here's a second one:

Huffington Post

"Peanut galleries" (which now means "a source for hecklers," usually used in a joking manner) were the upper balconies that African-American people sat in in segregated theaters. They were also known by several even more derogatory names (which will not be shared here).

103 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 10:16 pm

Right, and here's a third:

Business Insider:

3."Peanut gallery"

This phrase intends to reference hecklers or critics, usually ill-informed ones. In reality, the "peanut gallery" names a section in theaters, usually the cheapest and worst, where many black people sat during the era of Vaudeville.

104 RIYank   ~  Jul 7, 2014 10:16 pm

Oh, so probably Wordpress just didn't like the three links in one comment. Anyway, I have to say I don't find these conclusive at all, and not one of them gives a serious source. (And in my experience "in reality" is a signal that the author may well be full of crap.) So it may be wrong -- folk etymologies pop up all the time and get propagated without any real justification. But I wouldn't write it off, either.

105 seamus   ~  Jul 7, 2014 10:56 pm

[104] I believe it is true. Looking at the top 9 list that you posted, I was already very familiar with the origins of many of those and knew that they were racist. It's just not the type of article that seeks to cite it's sources per se so i'm not surprised that it doesn't in this case.

106 Boatzilla   ~  Jul 8, 2014 12:58 am

[101] Thanks for that. I love the phrase "Peanut Gallery," but never heard about its origins. That "Nine Common" article is atrocious BTW, but the other sources seem somewhat more trustworthy.

The first time I went to the newest Yankee Stadium we had some seats that were at the back of a middle section. There was a concession concourse behind us, but also a row of seats above us on the concourse. However there was no wall behind those people (and no wall above our heads). Their peanut debris blew right into our hair because of the air currents. Everyone kept turning around with angry eyes like those behind us were doing it intentionally. They kept saying, "We're not doing it." My buddy kept saying, "What is this, the peanut gallery,' which I thought was hilarious.

We formed two factions, though. The people above who were no doubt amused by our plight, and the people below brushing peanut shells and peanut skin out of the heads and shoulders of friends and strangers alike.

Thankfully, no fisticuffs ensued.

And now I know that I will never really know what it was like to sit in the peanut gallery.

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